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June 29, 2024, 12:43:06 PM |
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Sometimes you have the hunch that a match is fixed, but you can hardly ever be sure about it, unless insiders provide evidence (recently we knew about a famous case of a referee paid by the F.C. Barcelona).
I recently heard a former fighter talking about a certain martial art I won't mention, and saying that the question about who will win a fight has in fact a very easy answer: the one who makes "them" earn the most money. Who knows, I would rather believe that this is not the general rule.
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June 29, 2024, 12:52:45 PM |
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I don't think match fixing is something that is open that people can see, else we would have been seeing more people and clubs being punished for such act. It is a highly classified activity that may not necessarily involve everyone in the pitch but some selected key people and sometimes the officials. Lately, we have seen a reduction in such allegations, probably due to the intervention of technology. However, I think it is still prevalent in lower divisions where there is less attention unlike the major league. One way I suspect match fixing is when I see the odds of a match continuously changing few hours to the match. This gives me a feeling that the bookies have idea of what the outcome of the match will be. Apart from this way, I really find it difficult know fixed matches before and during the match.
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June 29, 2024, 01:03:47 PM |
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That could be right as we don't knows what match that be match fixing. We can guess that is match fixing without we knows if that is right or wrong. While we analyze the match, we can place the bet on that match without thinks if that is match fixing or not.
We don't have to thinks like that because that can effect to our analyzes. We can't decides when we can place the bet because we wants to finds out if that is match fixing. We will use our time to research about that and we may not place any bet before we knows the truth.
We knows that there is match fixing on the sports but we don't knows which is. Instead to thinks much about that, we just trying to analyze and place a bet. We do not have to thinks much about the result because we just wants to spends our time to place a bet.
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June 29, 2024, 01:07:32 PM |
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I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
There are several matches that I have seen where a player foul play his opponent and yet the referee did not say anything - when I say he didn't say anything, he's been dishing yellow cards to the other team but when this specific one fouled he just went watch the reply and didn't award any card. In such cases that's when I am suspicious of a fixed match and probably he was paid to be strict with one and not the other.
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June 29, 2024, 01:11:02 PM |
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
It’s not happening in daily basis so it’s very hard to recognized it on your own. It’s better to not consider the possibility of match fixing since it will just clouded your judgement and treat all the match result not in favor to yours as fixed match if the team lose badly due to mistakes. Match fixing happened on a very small percentage and most of them is not recognizable unless someone whistle blow about the specific match. So it’s closed to non-existent for a regular match viewers like us that doesn’t have info inside the game. Better to not consider it at all.
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June 29, 2024, 01:12:47 PM |
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I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
There are several matches that I have seen where a player foul play his opponent and yet the referee did not say anything - when I say he didn't say anything, he's been dishing yellow cards to the other team but when this specific one fouled he just went watch the reply and didn't award any card. In such cases that's when I am suspicious of a fixed match and probably he was paid to be strict with one and not the other. But what is your approach to winning your bet in this situation? With your description, you are watching live, so it's live betting. Therefore, I'm curious if what you noticed has really made you profitable or if you still have not been able to bet on the right side. You know, there are a lot of games we can bet on, and sometimes we think it's fixed when the game doesn't seem to favor our bet. So, sometimes we get emotional and think that a game is fixed when, in fact, it's not.
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June 29, 2024, 01:34:37 PM |
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There are so many match fixing, till now it's not yet stopped. It's really hard to stop because there are worthy punishment to them, if they would go to jail after committing that, they would be scared and not want to repeat it. That's why, you should avoid to bet on those teams because they have a power to manipulate the match. (recently we knew about a famous case of a referee paid by the F.C. Barcelona).
Don't forget that Real Vardrid is getting help from VAR to make win the match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowXi2fm8BQ
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June 29, 2024, 02:29:15 PM |
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Match fixing is just getting more popular every now and then, even with both the fake and real ones. I now see some telegram channels talking about selling information about fixed matches to their premium subscribers, and with the high rate of manipulation in the sports system, one can't even be sure if such information is a scam or not. The entities that are involved in match fixing are really going the extra mile to jeopardise the fun people derive from the game and making sure that everything goes as they want in order to make their pocket more accurate.
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June 29, 2024, 03:14:46 PM |
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-snip- These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
The match-fixing discussions are hotter online now than before and I put it to you that match-fixing is very real and despite trying to carefully plan it to cover it up, it is sometimes obvious and suspicious. It was in the old times that some obvious ones were discovered and sanctions were made but now again it is becoming more rampant. I am sure that many officials who should have caught them would be silenced with money when they know or try to cover everything up when they are later detected so that football and other top sports will not be like a joke if it is becoming too rampant that players, referees etc are often called out and sanctioned for this reason. Just a few weeks ago, a player in one of the top leagues (I forgot the name) was fined and suspended for years for match-fixing and betting, and many are happening in the local African league and elsewhere now to even call for the check on the integrity of football again. If this continues, well, people will still be interested in the sports, but of course, it could cause an uprising if some are too obvious on the pitch.
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June 29, 2024, 03:20:05 PM |
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Match fixing is just getting more popular every now and then, even with both the fake and real ones. I now see some telegram channels talking about selling information about fixed matches to their premium subscribers, and with the high rate of manipulation in the sports system, one can't even be sure if such information is a scam or not. The entities that are involved in match fixing are really going the extra mile to jeopardise the fun people derive from the game and making sure that everything goes as they want in order to make their pocket more accurate.
It’s not real match fixing but rather pseudo match fixing to attract gullible bettors to pay their premiums in hopes to win huge from this scam calls. The allegation about match fixing is now popular but only few matches so far is proven and most of them happening on minor leagues. Scammers is just using this hype to get a financial gain since the demand from curious gamblers is high due to the false promise of sure profit which is not in reality.
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June 29, 2024, 03:28:08 PM |
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I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
There are several matches that I have seen where a player foul play his opponent and yet the referee did not say anything - when I say he didn't say anything, he's been dishing yellow cards to the other team but when this specific one fouled he just went watch the reply and didn't award any card. In such cases that's when I am suspicious of a fixed match and probably he was paid to be strict with one and not the other. But what is your approach to winning your bet in this situation? With your description, you are watching live, so it's live betting. Therefore, I'm curious if what you noticed has really made you profitable or if you still have not been able to bet on the right side. You know, there are a lot of games we can bet on, and sometimes we think it's fixed when the game doesn't seem to favor our bet. So, sometimes we get emotional and think that a game is fixed when, in fact, it's not. Actually, I didn't place any bet in that specific game - I was only just watching the match when I noticed it and when the Op brought the topic of fixed match I thought that would be a perfect example where one would be suspicious of a foul play happening. If I had placed a bet on that match and found out that there's a slight chance of it being fixed and that it would have affected my game then I would have cashed out before the end but if it was something that won't affect me I won't even bother to do anything about it.
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June 29, 2024, 03:56:48 PM |
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It is indeed true that it is sometimes very difficult to recognize a match being fixed. Sometimes match fixing goes unnoticed. We can only suspect them. But how can we suspect match fixing? If equal teams play and one of them loses to the other, then such a match can be either fair or negotiated. It is almost impossible to prove this. But if a much weaker team unexpectedly loses to a stronger one for no reason whatsoever, and when watching the match it is clear that the players of the strong team seem to be playing reluctantly and are not even trying to play - this is a fairly strong assumption about a fixed match.
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Hard actually, people can just make their own assumptions whether they percieved a match as fixed or not, but of course taking consideration of their biases. Some matches do seem to be fixed or scripted if your bias biased lost, especially if you made your own analysis. Expectations won't be met sometimes but matches do happen on that way. Fixed matches will only be determined if participants would not only confess but be able to prove that there were negotiations made for the line up. And it just happened that these things won't be easily seen by us, bettors. Maximum privacy of such information will be defended by those who made use of such scheme of course because they will be involved with the problem. Also with the players who are in those games or matches wherein they'd protect their image as well.
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June 29, 2024, 04:22:56 PM |
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Sometimes I had a feeling that every match is scripted in a way to bring a decided result in the favour of a particular team and also I know it's my feel it's not possible to fix matches but there are evidences that players, match officials, club owners involved in fixing and ended up facing legal charges so it proves it's existence but we can't find them just like that, it needs investigation to prove it and we see some people are making money in social media by saying they know which team is going to win so give me x amount then you will know it which is a lame scam scheme.
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June 29, 2024, 04:27:34 PM |
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When I lose my bet, it means the match is scripted, so there are so many match fixing out there ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Hard actually, people can just make their own assumptions whether they percieved a match as fixed or not, but of course taking consideration of their biases. Some matches do seem to be fixed or scripted if your bias biased lost, especially if you made your own analysis. Expectations won't be met sometimes but matches do happen on that way. Fixed matches will only be determined if participants would not only confess but be able to prove that there were negotiations made for the line up. And it just happened that these things won't be easily seen by us, bettors. Maximum privacy of such information will be defended by those who made use of such scheme of course because they will be involved with the problem. Also with the players who are in those games or matches wherein they'd protect their image as well.
Yeah, people who need to judge whether the match is legit or scripted should be the one who don't have any importance with the team or financial, because they will give biased opinions. It's not surprising when there are two big teams played, both of them have their own "excuses", whenever their favorite teams lose, they will tell the excuse and blame the other teams.
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June 29, 2024, 04:35:11 PM |
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In the topic of match fixing, I don't think there is much I could say, you have already given a good summary on what it is about and the reasons which there are interested parts on deciding the outcome of matches. I think Football is an specially affected sport, when we talk about this scourage for gamblers and the betting markets. I suppose one of the easiest ways to identify a match being fixed is to take a look at the odds during the match and notice if they change in a very fast pace in a specific moment of the match, if the odds suddenly drop for a team, which is not favored by the market/gamblers in general. Then it could be a sign there are people fixing the result of it, for the sake of juicy gains.
By the way, I ignore if there are casinos/betting houses out there who influence directly the market by fixing the matches. Though, that is something I would only expect to see from a very shady casino in a country with little to no law and order.
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June 29, 2024, 04:38:15 PM |
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The feeling of deception, and what we aim for relaxation is arranged with ugly tricks. But anyway, it is a reflection of human greed, and the capable people in that story played the role of evil people to show off a drama.
I once knew of a local case that was exposed, and the people involved ended up in jail for illegal betting and unsportsmanlike behavior.
And this is just a small part that exists intertwined with what's going on, so I think this is a warning to us about that trick anyway.
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June 29, 2024, 04:45:59 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry. Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team. I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
I personally would not be suspicious even though, sometimes the results obtained from a match are completely far from the predictions on paper as a whole. But, when this happens, there will always be discussions about players, fitness, rotation etc. Thus, match fixing can be manipulated and if there are factors that influence their performance, then of course we will still accept the results even though we might also lose the bet. After all, if their practices are discovered then of course there will be punishments determined, because I'm sure they have a good investigation team to deal with match fixing problems like that.
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June 29, 2024, 04:50:56 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
Though the examples you gave above to back-up your observations are likely to be true, but I still find it difficult to believe that match fixing when it comes to big leagues are possible, due to how all key players of big leagues are always usually paid handsomely, unlike most small leagues whose payment are usually poor, as I think only they are to only people are the only one likely to accept a pay of fix match, as an avenue to generate much funds. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team. Making such attempts is no different from ordinary gambling, because unlike games which involves single individual, football and baseball are team games, which means if a team player is bribe to underperform during the match, there is still chances other players performing better to counter such fix game. Hence, the only type of fix match that is 100% is when both teams come to an agreement to score a certain amount of goals.
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June 29, 2024, 04:55:51 PM |
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I have never encountered a fixed match in any major league where I bet or even have ever placed a bet on a match that I later realize it was fixed. It's possible that such scenarios happened before without any other gamblers noticing it, possibly because of the teams or players needing points and agreeing to a fixed result, or even bribing referees for manipulation, in our local league, this thing happened multiple times, but it’s not for betting reasons.
However, I believe it is the responsibility of sportsbooks to detect any fixed games on their list and take good action for their clients( gamblers). This could involve canceling bets placed on manipulated games or compensating affected bettors, whether they won or lost due to the manipulation.
I’m wondering if sportsbooks acted in this manner before? Have you encountered any such bet where the casino or sportsbook canceled your bet due fixed match?
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