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June 29, 2024, 04:58:36 PM
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I suppose one of the easiest ways to identify a match being fixed is to take a look at the odds during the match and notice if they change in a very fast pace in a specific moment of the match, if the odds suddenly drop for a team, which is not favored by the market/gamblers in general. Then it could be a sign there are people fixing the result of it, for the sake of juicy gains.
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The actor in the match arrangement also gets a high salary. Some players who are indicated to cooperate with casinos to influence matches are expected to get serious fines and even penalties if known.

And of course there are many more ways that are done to affect the game, casinos that play at this level only need to profit from the defeat of many gamblers on the bets of the matches that have been regulated.

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June 29, 2024, 05:00:23 PM
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I thought this would never happen in national team matches and only applies to small leagues but in fact in my country even former players revealed their honesty that there was match fixing and several players on the national team enjoyed the results, each player got a car and also a house for them. giving in to other national teams, I felt that where their pride was risking the name of their own country just for a car and a house, how could they be said to be heroes who were actually traitors to their own country.

That's a little strange to me, maybe it's very normal for match fixing to happen only in leagues in football, but it also happens in national teams and even then cheating has been carried out by football association bodies so that there are many mafias in it who do business with gambling and even with opposing teams, that's really embarrassing. but so far I have never been able to recognize match fixing and we are just guessing, but in fact it exists and we should not assume it never exists either, every player can be bribed to play badly, so it's not strange in my opinion if that happens, that's why It's not surprising if a top team loses to a bottom team. The match mafia is always there.
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June 29, 2024, 05:01:27 PM
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I rarely see one or if I do, I don't recognize them as a fixed match.

I've seen good predictors with the game and it's like they know what is going to happen even to the last plays that can affect the game. Even Jamal Crawford shocked me with his detailed prediction of what Luka Doncic will do.
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Jamal Crawford Predicted Luka Doncic's Game-Winner vs. Wolves Right Before the Play
That precision of the hop on one leg, Gobert being part of the play, and the three-point shot. Is that match fixed? It's not but there are great people who could see the outcome of the game.
I said I rarely see them, I cannot even remember the last time I bet on a fixed match or in my eyes it's just too obvious who is going to win.

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June 29, 2024, 05:05:14 PM
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
Although match-fixing for one team's victory has occurred, it is not done in almost all competitions. Moreover, if supervision is stricter in football now because if proven to have committed such fraud, it will have an impact on the team and they will be fined. The gambling business is so profitable and many service providers are trying to make gambling more attractive so that people will try to gamble on their sites.

For me, it is a common thing because everyone has the capacity to build a business to make money. Business opportunities in gambling are indeed very promising now because so many people are interested in gambling so that service providers try to make it easy.

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June 29, 2024, 05:09:01 PM
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In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them. I don't know if there is still some that's happening and go unnoticed because of how much big money that's being staked for every match and the share that they might get. While it can involve some players without the knowledge of the opponent and other teams. One of the most recent in the pro scene in basketball in the NBA is with Jontay Porter.

He's lost his integrity for some money that he can get from the bettors in exchange of his reputation to be crumpled all of his life and being written in the history of the NBA.
Source: NBA bans player for gambling violations

When I say that it's rarely happening in the prominent leagues, it actually does. But there are still some athletes that are trying to enter the pit and takes risk.

As long as there is big money in gambling behind something there always will be some flavor of match fixing. In the major sports where the stars making millions and millions in salary it might not be that much but college sports, probably way more than people think.  These kids make next to nothing if anything at all.  Someone offers 20k just to make sure a certain set of points comes out is lucrative to make them do it.

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June 29, 2024, 05:09:47 PM
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I can't tell how often since i'm only interested on few sports. Although, I can't tell exactly if it's a fixed match, but instead, i observe how the referee is somewhat biased on calls to the other player/team/etc. So until the other player don't do a splendid work to get higher points, e.g. do KO in boxing, UFC, etc. the other one will always win the one which ref is biased for.

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June 29, 2024, 05:44:40 PM
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The evidence of match fixing is more obvious in some sports than it is in some other sports, and may be difficult to observe these days than in those days when many people had no idea of something like that. Match fixing for instance may be more easy to observe in boxing than it will be in some football games, unless they just want to make it very obvious like allowing an opposition team score a very high and unusual amount of goals, or the officials are obviously biased.


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June 29, 2024, 06:01:11 PM
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I've never spotted any kind of match fix even though i've seen a lot of mistakes and questionable calls from the referees and players. As the others have said, it's difficult to recognize because even if there's a possibility you still need some proof to back it up and that takes a lot of time. I remember in the esports scene, there was an investigation that went through between the organizers and players, then eventually nothing was found until one of the players spit out the truth.

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June 29, 2024, 06:25:16 PM
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In my experience, I have followed at least 3 matches fixed (1 was an horserace).
I am pretty sure these were fixed since after the event there was like an official investigation that leads to issue for several people involved...

Basically in these cases I noticed:
- "crazy odds" likewise fixed result 2-2 @1.50 when they are playing at 0-0 at start of second half. Or an horserace with 3 runners... odd for winner is @1.00 (litterally!)
- it was something already known or predicted by commentary or newspapers.
- high volume in betting exchange games.

Of course this cant be a real statistic. In some cases it's hard and expensive fix a match at that level nowadays. There are other sports where "everything can happens", I will not list them, but if you are playing online Roll Eyes you are pretty aware too.

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June 29, 2024, 07:06:50 PM
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I've never spotted any kind of match fix even though i've seen a lot of mistakes and questionable calls from the referees and players.
Yes, similarly I also haven't noticed any kind of match fix during betting on some matches but surely those mistakes and questionable calls do exist sometimes especially from the referees. I have once noticed a very poor performance from a player whom I thought would perform pretty well but that can be due to health or weather issue and considering it as a sign of match fixing would be unjustifiable.

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June 29, 2024, 08:57:49 PM
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Well, I don't pay too much attention, but I know that there are some matches where the referee doesn't blow the whistle at the right time, and he also gives a red or yellow card when it's not appreciated to do that. Such an act makes me think sometimes that the referee was paid to act in such a manner because it really does piss me off to see the referee blowing the whistle at the wrong time. Due to how the referee sometimes acts during a live match, a good team could have a poor performance, which is probably what the referee was paid to do. It is just my major observation; it might not really be true that a referee could be bribed, but I think it is very possible. 

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June 29, 2024, 09:14:48 PM
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Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team.
There is always corruption in every sector, so you can’t completely eradicate things like this. But I will only talk about football. Match fixing might be possible, but it’s likely to happen in low leagues like local leagues. I don’t think things like this are happening in strong leagues because everyone will be scared to do that. Anyone caught in acts like this is going to be properly punished, so people won’t want to involve themselves in things like this. I know it might be happening, but I haven’t heard about it before, and I don’t really think it’s going to be easy to detect, because a player performing poorly in a match doesn’t mean the player is being paid.

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Bribes are sometimes given to players for not playing well or to officials so they can make decisions that would favor a team. Orchestrating games where only a select few individuals are involved can often be more impactful and less traceable than bribing the whole team, making manipulation more covert and seem as though it were mere human folly.

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People have to realize that any self respecting league with the least bit of democracy would severely punish any team deliberately involved in any process such as fixing entire matches or outcomes.

Of course there are occasions where there has been widespread corruption but in leagues like the English premiere league and NBA have made very strict decisions in the occurrence of match fixing. So it would be interesting to hear how people can feel a match is fixed when there's no other evidence and nobody has spoken about it out of the hundreds of people involved in running any match for a team in a large league.

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 #55

Bribes are sometimes given to players for not playing well or to officials so they can make decisions that would favor a team. Orchestrating games where only a select few individuals are involved can often be more impactful and less traceable than bribing the whole team, making manipulation more covert and seem as though it were mere human folly.

Match fixing, in my opinion, is a serious threat to spoort's integrity. It has adverse effects, it has the ability to undermine trust from fans, compromise the spirit of fair play which underlies sport and, in some cases can be seen as a long-term detriment for all involved. It is for this reason that there should be strict monitoring of all match fixing activities and their participants so as severe penalties can act as deterrents for potential offenders. The need for more transparency and education coupled with oversight make sure that the outcome of matches are free from any manipulation and remain fair after all. Sports are not just about winning; they're about how you win.

Up until today, I believe match fixing is still happening. As long as there are coaches or athletes who can be tempted with bribes, this practice will continue. And if you are very familiar with the sports, you can easily spot if this is happening inside the field or inside the ring. Just like some stories we have read in this board. A local basketball league for example. Since the performance of the athletes involved was clearly seen by their fans, they can tell that they were throwing the game. It means, if you are truly is a fan of that sports as well as the athletes involved, high chance that you will easily spot the difference on how they are playing the game.

Though I haven't seen a game that was actually a fixed match, I guess, we can never really confirm if the game is fixed or not as parties involved won't admit that such arrangements happened. This will ruin their reputation as well as career of the athletes involved in such agreement.

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June 29, 2024, 09:48:54 PM
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It's hard to determine that you're watching a match that has been fixed. I don't know if this is still happening nowadays especially in the most common tournaments and sports.

But with the thought that each match is listed on a bookie, there's a possibility that there can be an agreement about it for these teams to take all the money in the books.

However, are they willing to sacrifice their professional record for a quick money gain? I don't think so.

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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team.
I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.
Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself.
These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?

I agree with you but remember that other players compromise such a one on one bargain if the both teams are not informed. In sport events anything is possible and it could affect gamblers predictions either in the good or bad way.

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However, are they willing to sacrifice their professional record for a quick money gain? I don't think so.

That's why you need to bet on big leagues with a good reputation, as they are unlikely to allow game-fixing since a lot of money is at stake, including their future. Just like in the news this year about an NBA player being suspected of game-fixing; he now does not have a contract and will be banned from playing in the NBA again. That's the price they'll pay if they try to fix the game. I believe if we want to find fixed games, those can be found in small leagues, but the limit is also low as bookies already know its possibility.

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June 29, 2024, 10:17:10 PM
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You cannot spot it yourself, the details are so tiny to be observed by any of the spectators. Match fixing is one of the reasons why footballers are banned from gambling, Brentford's Ivan Toney was banned for 9 months for gambling, and Newcastle's Tonali is banned for 10 months for the same offense.

The worst type of gambling for a footballer is when they gamble on a game they are involved in, either gambling that they would take a yellow/red card, or that they would score a goal, etc, such an offense will definitely be met with a harsher punishment, because that is one of the ways match fixing occurs.

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June 29, 2024, 10:20:36 PM
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team.
I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.
Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself.
These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?

When it comes to fraud involving football, you will generally see this happening in smaller clubs and leagues, usually with smaller teams.
Why that? Because a successful player who is playing for an elite team or in important championships is unlikely to risk his successful career to commit illegal acts that could ruin his future.

On the other hand, players without much fame and earn little are more likely to accept large rewards for committing a foul, penalty, expulsion or even a goal against their own team. Because the "reward" they receive for this is sometimes worth more than an entire year's salary.

And for this reason I avoid betting on small or unknown championships, I suggest you do the same

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