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June 29, 2024, 10:25:44 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry. Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team. I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
I wouldn't believe anyone claiming that they recognize any fixed match, because persons like that would have such a bit of a hubris, that it would distort their view on reality in everything else as well. Even interpol and other organizations have teams, that are actively investigating these. It's a hard job and it's not happening just by looking at the games. And even they have hard time to prove them, and using scores as an evidence wouldn't be how evidence works. And claiming that someone would recognize them easily without any access to actual evidence like money transfers or surveillance, is just weird. We might as well ask how often we solve missing person cases just by reading the news.
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June 29, 2024, 10:33:05 PM |
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.
The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.
Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.
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Well said. Anyone can suspect a game that is fixed match because of an unexpected player behavior or an unreasonable decision of the judge but that's only on your personal point of view as others may just find it normal for such event. In the end, the fact that others won't agree on how you see things, then you end up normalize what you've seen just like others. However, if you can justify all your accusations, then why not? You need solid proofs and evidences then. Anything that is done or perform illegally will certainly undermines the sports integrity.
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June 29, 2024, 10:40:35 PM |
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Let me make it clear. What you are referring to is called spot fixing which is defined as a moment or an act within a match or game in any sport that has been planned or fixed beforehand that it will be done that way. When we say match-fixing, we are referring to the match results being fixed beforehand and not the acts or actions within the match.
Generally, it's not easy to know that a match was fixed unless the side that lost was stronger than the side that won the game which makes it a bit obvious, otherwise, if it was competitive and one side lost but we don't know that the game was fixed because the result wasn't obvious.
Recognizing spot-fixing is even more difficult because those who do these things are pretty good with it and they do it on occasion and in ways that aren't easily understandable by a normal person unless it is leaked that it was a fixed move.
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June 29, 2024, 10:52:20 PM |
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I think from a casual fan's perspective it is easy to miss shit in fixed games, unless they are literally throwing the match against the other team. Misplays and other forms of blunders when playing are more common in the professional scene than most people assume it to be, so games that are fixed most often revolve around making blatant mistakes that would fly over a regular fan's radar, so as to avoid suspicion of course. On the other hand, this will not stand against die-hard fans of a certain team or sport, those who really know what the shit is all about and can't be made a fool of. They know the strengths of each players and the way they play as well, so slight differences that otherwise would not be noticed by normal fans will definitely be a big deal for them, which will lead to speculation.
As for myself, I consider myself a casual fan of everything except ESports, where in certain titles and games I can find the most stupid mistakes and determine whether those are intentional or just a product of poor decision making, which is common in games like these. Thus far for league of legends, and other titles like Valorant, I haven't seen any match fixing scandals come about, nor speculate any team of doing so.
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June 29, 2024, 10:53:59 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry. Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team. I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
Well from all my gathering, I think it's not easy to identify if not almost impossible especially in the big leagues but in some lower divisions I think it's way easier to fix a game as not much attention and focus is been thrown there. Match fixing isn't something that's regularly done and to some extent is even likely to be called rare or even not possible in some league.
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June 30, 2024, 02:38:44 PM |
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Well from all my gathering, I think it's not easy to identify if not almost impossible especially in the big leagues but in some lower divisions I think it's way easier to fix a game as not much attention and focus is been thrown there. Match fixing isn't something that's regularly done and to some extent is even likely to be called rare or even not possible in some league. Match fixing can happen if the organizers play with people who supervise the League and they have special positions but it is quite risky when it is known to the public. In the second division of the Spanish League there was a match fixing if I'm not mistaken and I don't really remember what year it happened. Now in the era of modern football it is difficult to do because supervision is getting tighter so if it is found out it will impact the club with very severe sanctions. The drama of match fixing can vary such as betting or for teams that have already made sure to qualify for the next phase. Now we rarely find match fixing issues because league supervision is so tight and well coordinated.
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June 30, 2024, 04:10:31 PM |
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Well from all my gathering, I think it's not easy to identify if not almost impossible especially in the big leagues but in some lower divisions I think it's way easier to fix a game as not much attention and focus is been thrown there. Match fixing isn't something that's regularly done and to some extent is even likely to be called rare or even not possible in some league. Match fixing can happen if the organizers play with people who supervise the League and they have special positions but it is quite risky when it is known to the public. In the second division of the Spanish League there was a match fixing if I'm not mistaken and I don't really remember what year it happened. Now in the era of modern football it is difficult to do because supervision is getting tighter so if it is found out it will impact the club with very severe sanctions. The drama of match fixing can vary such as betting or for teams that have already made sure to qualify for the next phase. Now we rarely find match fixing issues because league supervision is so tight and well coordinated. It's not rare in other sports especially when they call someone on short notice to fight a boxer or in UFC match. Just recently they asked someone, a nobody to fight Deigo Lopes in sport on short notice for like 3 hours before the fight. This is definitely not a fixed match but because it's obvious that the replacement will lose, I guess its a fixed match. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 30, 2024, 04:22:27 PM |
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There are many types of worst games in the world and one of them is match fixing. Many very good players lost their lives in match-fixing. It was seen that a gambler fell into a trap and wasted his life. One wastes his life by gambling for more money. Match fixing is done mainly with a gambler or a player who plays with one's career here. In this game, the life of any star player is lost by falling into the game. So I think match-fixing should be avoided. There are many forms of gambling but not matches like match-fixing, of course not.
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June 30, 2024, 04:36:41 PM |
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Well from all my gathering, I think it's not easy to identify if not almost impossible especially in the big leagues but in some lower divisions I think it's way easier to fix a game as not much attention and focus is been thrown there. Match fixing isn't something that's regularly done and to some extent is even likely to be called rare or even not possible in some league. Match fixing can happen if the organizers play with people who supervise the League and they have special positions but it is quite risky when it is known to the public. In the second division of the Spanish League there was a match fixing if I'm not mistaken and I don't really remember what year it happened. Now in the era of modern football it is difficult to do because supervision is getting tighter so if it is found out it will impact the club with very severe sanctions. The drama of match fixing can vary such as betting or for teams that have already made sure to qualify for the next phase. Now we rarely find match fixing issues because league supervision is so tight and well coordinated. It's not rare in other sports especially when they call someone on short notice to fight a boxer or in UFC match. Just recently they asked someone, a nobody to fight Deigo Lopes in sport on short notice for like 3 hours before the fight. This is definitely not a fixed match but because it's obvious that the replacement will lose, I guess its a fixed match. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well I can't even say anything about that kind of sort sports because for me everything that they do there is actually fix especially when they just randomly pair up fighters. I have seen numerous cases of those kind of matches and I can't relate when you even talk about WWE wrestlers because that whole event is staged and fixed for entertainment and some people actually think it's not
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In my opinion, if a player of whatever displicine is willing to fully cooperate with criminals to fix matches, then that means the are getting a good enough salary from their club or sport association, to begin with. And I also believe if a casino needs to opt to commit criminals acts and fix matches for them to get profits, said casino is lacking liquidity and id very shady. All a reliable casino needs to do is setting a reasonable fee on each bet places by gamblers, so it can easily profits from the volume of bettors itself, instead of fixing matches and having a stake on the winner team. It kinda reminds the the disaster of FTX, exchanges also profit from volume of operations, so I am not even sure how they could screw it all when it was easily doable for them to turn their volume of trading into high profits.
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I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
If you're not looking or you do not have a keen observation, you hardly will notice it and it is almost impossible to detect it if there's no TV coverage or camera to monitor the events. Game fixing is deliberate concealment of action, unless you are very familiar with the team or a player you will not notice it, I once saw a game-fixing happening but it was hard to prove or verify it because the common alibi of out-of-condition is always there. It only becomes evident if the two teams are not good at concealing it and their action is very obvious.
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June 30, 2024, 05:20:55 PM |
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If you're not looking or you do not have a keen observation, you hardly will notice it and it is almost impossible to detect it if there's no TV coverage or camera to monitor the events.
Game fixing is deliberate concealment of action, unless you are very familiar with the team or a player you will not notice it, I once saw a game-fixing happening but it was hard to prove or verify it because the common alibi of out-of-condition is always there. It only becomes evident if the two teams are not good at concealing it and their action is very obvious.
As you already said, It’s very hard to notice game fixing so how can do you manage to witness one without having proof? What’s your basis? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Upset result is always frequent to happened in sports regardless if the tournament is major or minor because players can be inconsistent. The only problem on determining match fixing is determining the player inconsistency as deliberate since that’s the only way it can be considered match fixing. Also you can only it’s fixed match if the scenario happened without any logical explanation for players to do it.
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Game fixing is a scourge of any sports organization. It will result in a loss of trust from the betting community and spectators; game fixing happens, which is why there are dedicated officials looking for this, but some teams or players know how to cheat and fix the matches without becoming too evident because there's a lot of money involved here. So it is just right that those caught fixing matches should be banned and penalized because game fixing is ruining the sports, which could lead to people losing their interest.
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Match fixing can happen if the organizers play with people who supervise the League and they have special positions but it is quite risky when it is known to the public. In the second division of the Spanish League there was a match fixing if I'm not mistaken and I don't really remember what year it happened. Now in the era of modern football it is difficult to do because supervision is getting tighter so if it is found out it will impact the club with very severe sanctions.
The drama of match fixing can vary such as betting or for teams that have already made sure to qualify for the next phase. Now we rarely find match fixing issues because league supervision is so tight and well coordinated.
Nope, you are wrong, match fixing still exists and the number is increasing every year. If you say that match fixing is rare in the Segunda Division, yes that must be true because the supervision for Laliga and the Segunda Division will definitely be very strict. Match fixing happens a lot in tennis, table tennis and volleyball because it is easier to organize compared to football where there are 11 people on each team. Sportradar Integrity Services annual report: Based on the monitoring of approximately 850,000 events and matches across 70 sports, the report highlights a total of 1,329 suspicious matches in 2023, occurring in 11 sports in 105 countries. source
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June 30, 2024, 05:50:38 PM |
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Earlier, there was a large amount of match fixing done. But I don’t think that now a days the match fixing is done in such a large number; the reason is due to the players getting paid really well for the matches. Now the players don’t have any requirements of money, as they are getting paid lots of money for the team he plays. Moreover, match fixing is really impossible in larger leagues. So if you want to avoid the match-fixing games, then it’s better to avoid low-league games. Else recognizing a fixed game is really tough.
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June 30, 2024, 06:15:23 PM |
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Earlier, there was a large amount of match fixing done. But I don’t think that now a days the match fixing is done in such a large number; the reason is due to the players getting paid really well for the matches. Now the players don’t have any requirements of money, as they are getting paid lots of money for the team he plays. Moreover, match fixing is really impossible in larger leagues. So if you want to avoid the match-fixing games, then it’s better to avoid low-league games. Else recognizing a fixed game is really tough.
Match fixing is not that really easy for large team because some of these are players are not easily to be convinced towards any amount used to bribe them because of their payment. Local team can be easily maneuver when huge amount of put to them like bribing the goalkeeper or defender against their team but it's prohibited for such player or an insider to go get a bribe against their team for peanut maybe that person is willing to quit playing for that team if finally caught up with their silly games.
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June 30, 2024, 06:20:02 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry. Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team. I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
I think what you say is correct. The most important thing is that match fixing is not necessary when 22 people in a football team consciously decide the outcome of the match. A fixed match can be when at least 1 person does something specifically for a bet. To answer your question, it is very difficult to guess how many of all the situations were deliberately played out, and how many occurred simply because of human stupidity. I think we will never know. But the fact that this happens, I think maybe yes
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Match fixing still exist until now and for football matches according to the survey usually match fixing will be dominated from the league from small countries in the world because usually the league from those countries isn't too popular and most people won't be notice if there is any match fixing at there however as a bettors i think it's almost impossible for us to recognized match fixing early and it cannot be detected because usually the people only focus to pick their bets and predict the outcomes of the particular matches
But i think big betting house can recognized if there is any match fixing available in the particular leagues because usually they will recognized weird odds for some matches and usually if they know there is any match fixing on those leagues then the betting house will not including those leagues into their betting options because they know it's risky to putting the league who compromised by match fixing but for the bettors i have to says it's almost impossible to know early match fixing
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June 30, 2024, 06:34:59 PM |
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
In truth, match fixing is mostly a way for gamblers to explain their mistakes to themselves and other people. After losing a lot of money they'll never be at fault. It will always be a cheating casino, a fixed match, bad luck, or some other stuff. Check statistics. How many real fixed matches have you bet on in your life? I mean real situations where it was proven and the players were banned for it. It happens, that's true, but it's so rare that most of you gamblers will never lose money to a fixed match.
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June 30, 2024, 07:45:27 PM |
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Well from all my gathering, I think it's not easy to identify if not almost impossible especially in the big leagues but in some lower divisions I think it's way easier to fix a game as not much attention and focus is been thrown there. Match fixing isn't something that's regularly done and to some extent is even likely to be called rare or even not possible in some league. Match fixing can happen if the organizers play with people who supervise the League and they have special positions but it is quite risky when it is known to the public. In the second division of the Spanish League there was a match fixing if I'm not mistaken and I don't really remember what year it happened. Now in the era of modern football it is difficult to do because supervision is getting tighter so if it is found out it will impact the club with very severe sanctions. The drama of match fixing can vary such as betting or for teams that have already made sure to qualify for the next phase. Now we rarely find match fixing issues because league supervision is so tight and well coordinated. That kind of thing must exist in many leagues even pro leagues, but maybe playing quite neatly and indeed this is very difficult to identify that there is cooperation or victory arrangements, score setting or violations and so on, because today everyone can communicate secretly so the fact is, I don't remember in the Spanish division match, cheating will always exist, not quoting the possibility even though technology is getting more sophisticated and arrangements are getting tighter, it's just that every limit always has a gap to be broken and remain safe. I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor. Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself. These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
If you're not looking or you do not have a keen observation, you hardly will notice it and it is almost impossible to detect it if there's no TV coverage or camera to monitor the events. Game fixing is deliberate concealment of action, unless you are very familiar with the team or a player you will not notice it, I once saw a game-fixing happening but it was hard to prove or verify it because the common alibi of out-of-condition is always there. It only becomes evident if the two teams are not good at concealing it and their action is very obvious. And another alibi in a match is luck which will be very difficult to identify, making a mistake can be said to be a natural thing in a match but we don't know, maybe it's a fabrication that has been made beforehand to carry out arrangements that have been agreed beforehand with the team owner, gambler, bookie or whoever gets a big profit when doing it, especially if it is done neatly, it will be even more difficult to identify.
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