Bitcoin Forum
July 15, 2024, 10:38:44 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse?  (Read 1122 times)
DubemIfedigbo001
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 265


Let love lead


View Profile WWW
July 06, 2024, 08:00:46 AM
 #81

I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.
This isn't surprising with the advancement of AI, this is also good since it would reduce the financial constraints of keeping most unproductive employees around. I quess AI is only doing 70% of the work, leaving the 30% for specialists in the various department, you too can upgrade yourself to be part of the 30% who are not replaceable by AI

Quote
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?
If you cannot become an engineer, then become a marketing consultant, Business Analyst, or Seasoned Chef. The roles are non-stop and AI can never replace those who have grounded specialized knowledge in their fields, AI has only come to replace average workers, but experts are still in high demand to help manage and oversee the activities of these robots. This is not a time to complain about the emergence of AI because they are here to stay and keep advancing by the day, rather its time we all step-up to the challenge and develop very much specialized knowledge in our fields and moreover learn to work with AI and further increase our productivity and perceived value.

Quote
I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
Its not happening now in my country, but it is very much expected in the nearest future, this revolution is spreading speedily like wild fire, it would reach everywhere like wild fire and for those it has not reached their country, its time to start preparing for the Ai wave so it doesn't meet you unprepared. Contract worker is just a mere formality to put you on probation, if you're good you'll be given a longer contract that almost feels like permanent job or even made a permanent staff because The company wouldn't want to let you go.

Quote
I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.
It does not happen that way all the time sir, companies look out for productivity and if the contract workers are more productive, they would retain them and reduce the numbers of their permanent staffs, or rather reduce their pays, forcing those who cannot cope to leave on their own.

R


▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▄▄
████████████████
▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀█████
████████▌███▐████
▄▄▄▄█████▄▄▄█████
████████████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████▀▀
LLBITCRYPTO
FUTURES
[
1,000x
LEVERAGE
][
.
COMPETITIVE
FEES
][
INSTANT
EXECUTION
]██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
TRADE NOW
.
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
ITExpert
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 185
Merit: 124



View Profile
July 06, 2024, 08:38:16 AM
 #82

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?
I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills.  It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.
ancafe
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1694
Merit: 724


Catalog Websites


View Profile
July 06, 2024, 09:19:25 AM
 #83

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.
Most companies accept workers who are not permanent employees and they prefer an annual contract system because there may be many things that can be done. I also don't know whether this reason is used so that when they are fired they don't need to be given compensation, but the dismissal should have occurred because of fraud committed by the worker, not entirely determined by the company without looking at any mistakes. Layoffs as you mentioned are much more rational because companies are experiencing financial problems and automatically they have to reduce workers.

Usually if a company operates in the field of product sales, when sales continue to decline, they have to take this step because they are unable to provide salaries. In this case, they see that it is more profitable to recruit contract workers compared to permanent jobs because when the company goes bankrupt they have to pay compensation.

█████████████████████████
████████▀▀████▀▀█▀▀██████
█████▀████▄▄▄▄████████
███▀███▄███████████████
██▀█████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
██▄███████████████▀▀▄▄███
███▄███▀████████▀███▄████
█████▄████▀▀▀▀████▄██████
████████▄▄████▄▄█████████
█████████████████████████
 
 BitList 
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
REAL-TIME DATA TRACKING
CURATED BY THE COMMUNITY

.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
 
  List #kycfree Websites   
Marvell1
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1105


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 06, 2024, 09:22:27 AM
 #84

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?
I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills.  It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.


Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI.

One thing that everyone needs to accept is that our world is developing very quickly and we need to adapt promptly if we don't want to be eliminated. Complaining or worrying will not slow down the world's development, so always seek to improve yourself, improve your knowledge and expertise. The development of technology will be a push to bring us to a more modern world, but it will also be a harsh elimination if someone does not adapt in time.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Ozero
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 2114
Merit: 180



View Profile
July 06, 2024, 02:52:55 PM
 #85


Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI.

The introduction of AI into our daily lives, in my opinion, needs to be feared only from the point of view of the possibility of AI abusing its capabilities to cause harm to humans. That is, AI should not be allowed to manage military technologies and make independent decisions on global issues related to the survival and development of humanity. In solving specific practical issues, AI can greatly make our lives easier, and in particular, it will greatly accelerate the development of science and technology. On the one hand, AI can indeed replace humans in some types of activities, but at the same time, thanks to the successful solution of many issues with their help, new jobs and new professions will be created. People's living and working conditions will quickly change towards comfort and improvement. I think that there will be enough work for people even with the active implementation of AI.

ARTEMIS Website Twitter Telegram YouTube
Artemis it’s a groundbreaking vision for creating a dynamic marketplace where vendors and sellers
▁▂▃▄▅▆▇ as well as service seekers and service providers, converge ▇▆▅▄▃▂▁
SECURE PLATFORM FOR GLOBAL TRADE
dezoel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2086
Merit: 1079


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 06, 2024, 03:20:34 PM
 #86

I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to  generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now.
There is no doubt that AI is advancing day by day and many things that used to take time to do before or would have taken a human to do, AI can do in minutes or seconds but despite all this, I would say that a human has created an AI, but AI has not yet created a human, so AI cannot compete with humans. AI doesn't have emotions, AI can't do everything, so no matter what happens, humans will still be needed.

All the facilities that people have built-in AI are made for their convenience, not because the need of humans will end and it will never happen. Invented as it has been allowed before, it is now AI and in the future, something will be developed even more advanced, so AI cannot be compared to humans.
Yes, we can say that ever since AI has been created many tasks have become easier. And the reason for its popularity is that it solves a lot of problems in seconds but remember that all these things are fed by a human, the AI has not done anything with its own mind.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
shield132
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2282
Merit: 883



View Profile
July 06, 2024, 07:17:35 PM
 #87

I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.


I think that at first, rich countries will be able to buy AI robots and make them work. These rich countries will give pensions to people who don't work because we can't kill them, they need money and food to survive. The business will make lots of profit and save employees but this is a very long-term plan because these AI robots will be very expensive and far from being affordable. It will take years to perfect them and integrate them into workspaces. When that happens, humans will be able to live without working.

AI will be slowly integrated into poor and developing countries. I assume that their governments will think about giving pensions to their citizens but pensions in poor countries will be much lower than in rich nations. That's how our lives will change with AI.

▄▄███████▄▄
▄██████████████▄
▄██████████████████▄
▄████▀▀▀▀███▀▀▀▀█████▄
▄█████████████▄█▀████▄
███████████▄███████████
██████████▄█▀███████████
██████████▀████████████
▀█████▄█▀█████████████▀
▀████▄▄▄▄███▄▄▄▄████▀
▀██████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀
.
 MΞTAWIN  THE FIRST WEB3 CASINO   
.
.. PLAY NOW ..
dunfida
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3150
Merit: 1144



View Profile
July 06, 2024, 09:57:54 PM
 #88

I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to  generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now.
There is no doubt that AI is advancing day by day and many things that used to take time to do before or would have taken a human to do, AI can do in minutes or seconds but despite all this, I would say that a human has created an AI, but AI has not yet created a human, so AI cannot compete with humans. AI doesn't have emotions, AI can't do everything, so no matter what happens, humans will still be needed.

All the facilities that people have built-in AI are made for their convenience, not because the need of humans will end and it will never happen. Invented as it has been allowed before, it is now AI and in the future, something will be developed even more advanced, so AI cannot be compared to humans.
Yes, we can say that ever since AI has been created many tasks have become easier. And the reason for its popularity is that it solves a lot of problems in seconds but remember that all these things are fed by a human, the AI has not done anything with its own mind.
When it comes to progress and advancement then this is something which is inevitable. Instead for people on focusing too much into its cons or disadvantage. Why people cant really just that focus into its usage and benefits? For us not to be able to have those kind of doubts. Yes, it could affect manpower or when it comes to jobs available for humans but when it comes to productivity and efficiency then it would be more lot faster
and better but just like with other words above by people that there are really those jobs on which it cant really be replaced with some AI and still human intervention would really be that still significant.

STT
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3976
Merit: 1426


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile WWW
July 06, 2024, 11:48:27 PM
 #89

That looks like automation and advances in robotics more then anything else.   AI in its purest take is software and iterative referencing self correcting learning processes, mostly its going to improve human interface and responses such as search results of online help bots etc.

The biggest people under threat from AI are probably help center staff who might do a very repetitive task of supplying information or standard responses to customers searching answers to queries.  I have heard of automated fast food outlets because of the pressures to both pay a good wage to employees but also the low requirement for costs in cheap fast food.   The conflict in costs will require greater efficiency and it might well come from excluding having so many people in the processes.

  Do you really lament people having to sit by a pan of boiling oil all day straining off chips, humans are made for better things then this in their jobs even.  I find it to be a good thing and you should not doubt that people will find more useful work when this job becomes unneeded manual labor just like the old Victorian farm work was replaced by machinery.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Marvell1
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1105


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 07, 2024, 08:41:28 AM
 #90


Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI.

The introduction of AI into our daily lives, in my opinion, needs to be feared only from the point of view of the possibility of AI abusing its capabilities to cause harm to humans. That is, AI should not be allowed to manage military technologies and make independent decisions on global issues related to the survival and development of humanity.


Humans are the ones who provide data and energy for AI to operate, and if we stop providing those things, they cannot function. So I think this won't happen in our real world, it only happens in fantasy movies. Our real-world AI is much more pragmatic than the AI ​​created by American science fiction movies.

In solving specific practical issues, AI can greatly make our lives easier, and in particular, it will greatly accelerate the development of science and technology. On the one hand, AI can indeed replace humans in some types of activities, but at the same time, thanks to the successful solution of many issues with their help, new jobs and new professions will be created. People's living and working conditions will quickly change towards comfort and improvement. I think that there will be enough work for people even with the active implementation of AI.

I agree, AI can take away some of our outdated jobs, but it will also promote the creation of many new jobs because it is a result of technological development, of the world, not a cause of the world becoming obsolete.

I don't deny that many people are worried about the development of AI because it is threatening their jobs. But we can see that the development of technology also creates more jobs and ways to make money, such as many young people today can make money through YouTube, tiktok, facebook...And clearly, these are positive effects of technological development, and we should not deny them.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
eightdots
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 840
Merit: 715



View Profile
July 07, 2024, 03:00:14 PM
 #91

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?
I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills.  It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.

Even in the absence of artificial intelligence, employers preferred contract employees over permanent employees. They do not want to have problems with both compensation and dismissal. Since employers generally act this way, job seekers have difficulty finding a permanent job. This situation begins to become more difficult after artificial intelligence spreads to a wider area.

Self-improvement always provides an advantage for a person, but this may not be the case for some professional groups. It seems that such problems will arise more and more as time goes on, but human labor must always be used and people must work at a job to make ends meet.

█████████████████████████
██
█████▀▀███████▀▀███████
█████▀░░▄███████▄░░▀█████
██▀░░██████▀░▀████░░▀██
██▀░░▀▀▀████████████░░▀██
██░░█▄████▀▀███▀█████░░██
██░░███▄▄███████▀▀███░░██
██░░█████████████████░░██
██▄░░████▄▄██████▄▄█░░▄██
██▄░░██████▄░░████░░▄██
█████▄░░▀███▌░░▐▀░░▄█████
███████▄▄███████▄▄███████
█████████████████████████
.
.ROOBET 2.0..██████.IIIIIFASTER & SLEEKER.██████.
|

█▄█
▀█▀
████▄▄██████▄▄████
█▄███▀█░░█████░░█▀███▄█
▀█▄▄░▐█████████▌▄▄█▀
██▄▄█████████▄▄████▌
██████▄▄████████
█▀▀████████████████
██████
█████████████
██
█▀▀██████████████
▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀▀
|.
    PLAY NOW    
Yatsan
Legendary
*
artcontest
Offline Offline

Activity: 2464
Merit: 1232


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 07, 2024, 04:21:23 PM
 #92

Technological advancements are meant to make our jobs easier. Well, I do get the point that it is threatening to some industries but humans have things these technologies are not having such as emotions and rational thinking. These things will only be following how they are programmed and that speaks for limitations itself. AIs won't work on its own, it needs human to do its role still. Another reason is the outcome if ever this assumption is true. Would governments allow people to just die of poverty 'coz they won't be having jobs? of course not. We have to see things in a positive way than to overthink it.
Yeah, AI takes away certain jobs. That's true. But AI could also add more jobs than it took. This has been the same story over and over again. Technological advancements are often interpreted as a competitor to humans in terms of jobs. Machines like tractors, printers, mixers, and so on and so forth have indeed been replacing jobs. But their invention and widespread use have actually made jobs easier, effective, and more convenient that it has developed massive industries, thereby creating more and more jobs.
Absolutely, opportunities come one after another. If AIs would occupy a workload, humans or workers would be able to do other things these technological advancements cannot and that's just it. Again, focus on the birghter perspective.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Egii Nna
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 190



View Profile
July 07, 2024, 09:04:33 PM
 #93

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?
I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills.  It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.

That is where the problem will come from because not everyone will have that opportunity to work as an engineer in order to fit in and get a job. Actually, AI technology will have an impact on the industry and at the same time will bring some disadvantages to the industry, not only about unemployment, because it will still make the work more stressful than people who can come with failures, which might affect not only the industry. but the people that will be using the product, so to me, I don’t think it will be a good idea to replace employees with AI technology. It has its own advantages, but the disadvantages are higher than the advantages, which show no improvement and introduce poverty to society. 

Rao420
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 101
Merit: 14


View Profile
July 07, 2024, 10:56:17 PM
 #94

I reckon the coming of AI may cause more damage.  Because the advent of AI is affecting different jobs and some jobs are disappearing, but new jobs are also being created.  And its use is changing ways of working, creating challenges for some. If it is not used carefully, the world may need it.
Muba20
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 155
Merit: 93


View Profile
July 07, 2024, 11:56:06 PM
 #95

Rather than trying to answer the question of whether this AI will unemployed humans, it might be a better way to make ourselves receptive to that. Since this AI has been able to bring big changes worldwide and is constantly evolving, we have to adapt to how perfect the work we do in reality is. There is no way to say no about. Those who are knowledgeable will definitely try to use this technology. And those of us who are employed or involved in any work must also do how to use that technology to hold our position. But there is definitely a big change coming in the workplace. Those who are not fully skilled will lose their jobs.
Mr. Magkaisa
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 288



View Profile WWW
July 08, 2024, 01:41:19 AM
 #96

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.
Most companies accept workers who are not permanent employees and they prefer an annual contract system because there may be many things that can be done. I also don't know whether this reason is used so that when they are fired they don't need to be given compensation, but the dismissal should have occurred because of fraud committed by the worker, not entirely determined by the company without looking at any mistakes. Layoffs as you mentioned are much more rational because companies are experiencing financial problems and automatically they have to reduce workers.

Usually if a company operates in the field of product sales, when sales continue to decline, they have to take this step because they are unable to provide salaries. In this case, they see that it is more profitable to recruit contract workers compared to permanent jobs because when the company goes bankrupt they have to pay compensation.

        -   Here in our country, most private companies want those who are only contractual, and they don't want to be regular employees in the long run. Usually,  the contract is only for about 5 months, and when the contract ends, they renew it if the contract is good but never make it regular because the others avoid the benefits that can be obtained by becoming regular employees.

Also, in our time today, I don't think our government will prioritize that, because the unemployed is one of the things that every country is looking for a solution for. Maybe in the future,
but not this time, and I think it will not be happen 100%. .

.
Duelbits
DUELBITS
FANTASY
SPORTS
████▄▄█████▄▄
░▄████
███████████▄
▐███
███████████████▄
███
████████████████
███
████████████████▌
███
██████████████████
████████████████▀▀▀
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
.
▬▬
VS
▬▬
████▄▄▄█████▄▄▄
░▄████████████████▄
▐██████████████████▄
████████████████████
████████████████████▌
█████████████████████
███████████████████
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
///  PLAY FOR FREE  ///
WIN FOR REAL
█████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
█████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
PLAY NOW
.
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████
█████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
█████
shinratensei_
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3164
Merit: 1025


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 09, 2024, 03:24:30 AM
 #97

I reckon the coming of AI may cause more damage.  Because the advent of AI is affecting different jobs and some jobs are disappearing, but new jobs are also being created.  And its use is changing ways of working, creating challenges for some. If it is not used carefully, the world may need it.
arguably it's replacing 100 job and creating new 1 new job and highly skilled at that in which not everyone can get.
not necessarily a good thing for people, since human population keep growing, the one that gonna get affected so badly are the developing countries with the highest unskilled labour.
this will create crisis since the deployed countries will more likely to withdraw their investment and build factory that utilizes AI and robotic means.

the future is really uncertain, and there's so many scenario where low income class people getting affected the most, best way to do for now is to be skilled labour by having higher education.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Kakmakr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3486
Merit: 1963

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 09, 2024, 06:11:18 AM
 #98

AI can also be beneficial for the human race, because it can free us to concentrate on things that are more important.

Most people are working between 8 to 10 hours a day, doing something repetative, that most AI can do. Let's say AI can be  used to "free" up some time for people to study or learn new skills and also to enjoy life more.

Why should people work 8 to 10 hour shifts in a low paying job, if they can do something better with their time. (Higher production = more taxes for the government and more taxes can be used to pay for the skill improvement of the human race.)

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
iBaba
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 271


Bitcoin in Niger State💯


View Profile WWW
July 09, 2024, 06:14:37 AM
 #99

I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills.  It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.

You've just mentioned it. I don't believe that AI is a threat to people's job. Although, anything that has advantages must surely have some level of disadvantages. However, AI jobs have really been so beneficial to the world as it has also helped job owners to optimize their jobs and challenged them to upscale their skills. For those who are open to learning and adopting new technologies, AI have come about precision and assisted creative people to work faster. For instance, if it takes you 30 minutes to design some concept notes for some projects, with AI being used with the right prompts, that can be achieved in few minutes. In terms of precision, AI helps you to get exact information or details. With the right tools in place, AI can assist you generate the right data analysis and become more data-driven.

.
DuelbitsSPORTS
▄▄▄███████▄▄▄
▄▄█████████████████▄▄
▄██████████████████████▄
██████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
█████████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
▀████████████████████████
▀▀███████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██
██
██
██

██
██
██
██

██
██
██
████████▄▄▄▄██▄▄▄██
███▄█▀▄▄▀███▄█████
█████████████▀▀▀██
██▀ ▀██████████████████
███▄███████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
▀█████████████████████▀
▀▀███████████████▀▀
▀▀▀▀█▀▀▀▀
OFFICIAL EUROPEAN
BETTING PARTNER OF
ASTON VILLA FC
██
██
██
██

██
██
██
██

██
██
██
10% CASHBACK
          100% MULTICHARGER
Promocodeudo
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 264



View Profile WWW
July 09, 2024, 07:06:24 AM
 #100

Farmers had used animals to plow their land. Now they are using heavy machinery. Those animals that had been used to plow fields lost their use or value completely? I don't think so. They have lost their value in one sector but they are still valuable in some other sectors. The same things will happen with humans, they have to adapt to the technology and new job positions will be opened that will require human intervention. Integration of AI in daily life won't replace total human intervention. It will just ease our work.

I agree that AI will make work to be fast and easy for us as you said but I want to remind you that once an employer buy this machine and notice that this machine can give him what he wants without the help of anyone I must tell you that it will be a problem to the human race in terms of employment, we are talking about employment in general and the way things are going they want to create a machines that can do everything a human being can be employed for, don't you think that this portrays a great danger, the jobs available is not even enough for individuals talk more usiing AI to do jobs that are meant for individuals, this for me will lead to a very big problem, talking about embracing technology, although technology is good but there are some technolgy that are not suppose to be produced in a large quantity to avoid misplacing priority.
The government can not even allow some of this things to scale through because they know the problem it will create in the society, humans remains the intelligent animals we know and there is know way they can be replaced with AI, AI can not function without the command of humans so AI can not replace people's positions, the idea is dead on arrival, it can only be used to help individuals do work faster and easy as you said noting else notbing more.

.
SPIN

       ▄▄▄██████████▄▄▄
     ▄███████████████████▄
   ▄██████████▀▀███████████▄
   ██████████    ███████████
 ▄██████████      ▀█████████▄
▄██████████        ▀█████████▄
█████████▀▀   ▄▄    ▀▀▀███████
█████████▄▄  ████▄▄███████████
███████▀  ▀▀███▀      ▀███████
▀█████▀          ▄█▄   ▀█████▀
 ▀███▀   ▄▄▄  ▄█████▄   ▀███▀
   ██████████████████▄▄▄███
   ▀██████████████████████▀
     ▀▀████████████████▀▀
        ▀▀▀█████████▀▀▀
.
RIUM
FAST DEPOSITS
AND WITHDRAWALS
    ▄▄████████▄▄                        ▄██████▄
  ▄███████▀██████▄                    ▄██████████▄
 ██████ ▀▀ ▄ █████       ██          ▄████████████▄
████████  ▄▀▄ ▀██▀      ▄███       ▄███          ███▄
███████▄  ▀▀▀ ▄██      ▄█████▄    ████████    ███████
███████  ██▀  ▄██     ████████▄   ███▀ ▄▄▄    ▄▄▄▄▀██
█████▄▄  ▀▀▄   ██▄    ▀▀█████▀▀   █████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███
 ██████ █ ▄ ▄█████    ▀▄▄▀▀▀▄▄▀   ████████    ██████▀
  ▀███████████████     ▀█████      ▀██████▄▄▄▄████▀▀
    ▀▀█████████▀         ███         ▀▀████████▀▀
WHEEL OF
FORTUNE
[WELCOME OFFER
     200% + 50FS
]▄███████████████████████▄
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████▀▀██████
████████████▀▀▀    ██████
███████▀▀▀   ▄▀   ███████
████▄     ▄█▀     ███████
███████▄ █▀      ████████
████████▌▐       ████████
█████████ ▄██▄  █████████
███████████████▄█████████
█████████████████████████
▀███████████████████████▀

▄▀▀▀











▀▄▄▄
.
PLAY NOW
▀▀▀▄











▄▄▄▀
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!