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Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.
I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens.
Nevertheless, fuck AI.
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Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.
We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet.
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Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.
We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet.
AI is already taking millions of jobs, and even if the technology did not advanced any further, businesses will find a way to tweak it so it becomes even more powerful and it can take even more jobs, so I do not think we are exaggerating at all when we say that AI is a threat that can take hundreds of millions of jobs away, and even if all those people could find new jobs, something I doubt, it is obvious the majority will have to settle for way less money than what they are making right now.
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AI is already taking millions of jobs, and even if the technology did not advanced any further, businesses will find a way to tweak it so it becomes even more powerful and it can take even more jobs, so I do not think we are exaggerating at all when we say that AI is a threat that can take hundreds of millions of jobs away, and even if all those people could find new jobs, something I doubt, it is obvious the majority will have to settle for way less money than what they are making right now.
Could you name some examples of jobs that were taken by AI? I have heard many times that AI are taking jobs, but nobody that I know and none of their friends were fired due to replaced by AI. If millions have lost their jobs, that would be a worldwide, but I personally dont notice much of unemployed. Such professions supposed to be from IT sector probably, but I havent heard that any complaints from IT. Anyway, it is obvious that progress is decreasing number of man labor, and replace everything with modern technology. I am not surprised that AI is replacing humans, but I am sure that humans will find work anyway. Anyway, people should not plan to work on one job for their entire life.
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As AI becomes smarter and more intelligent and knowledgeable, it doesn't matter whether you reskill or upskill, as long as any AI can do that same job much faster and cheaper, these employers will definitely opt for it. Except there's a major law put in place to limit how much work AI should be permissioned to do, that's the only way we can still get to have jobs. At a time, even Elon musk signed a petition for AI capabilities to be throttled and limited. If left unchecked, I can assure you that any and all computer-based jobs will be taken off the table by AI.
AI will go as far as the government allows it. With restrictions in place, it won't be able to take over the world. But if the plan is to empower corporations, then I can say we're nothing but doomed. AI will replace nearly every job performed by humans today. Individuals will be affected by this, except for businesses and/or corporations. If AI continues to advance, it could become a threat to humanity like Terminator's Skynet. How long will it take for AI to mature, is an excellent question. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by AI. Would you? ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI. While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI.
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Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.
We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet.
well by the time it happened people probably already losing jobs so i think its not anxiety but people starting to wake up. with AI development that's so rapid it literally can replace massive amount of people in their job, it needs a system that could contain its growth, a system that will act as an intermediary to bridge the use of AI and also retaining human capability to make money through jobs. I think if people started to know that AI could be threatening to their livelihood, it's a good start, nothing wrong about trying to prevent disaster.
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Excessive fear can prevent someone from developing and it is influenced by uncertainty or someone's inability to keep up with the times. This world is increasingly developing with the sophistication created by humans and if we cannot adapt well, it will be difficult to keep up with the development process of the times. Unemployment is something that is feared for people who are not in developing countries, but for those who live in developed countries, work can be done using only a cellphone and just sitting at home.
Poverty is a mindset and it will not end if they do not try to improve their skills. Remember one thing that in seeking financial freedom the concept is perseverance, independence and daring to take risks. If these three are consistently carried out, I am sure people can definitely get out of poverty even if they do not become richer.
It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want. Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard.
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It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI.
While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI.
Should not people just need to adopt to the situation when AI replace them in a comfort office or remote jobs? As far as I see it, AI replace mostly IT sector. But there are always jobs that require hand work. Just a quick example from my experience. Every time had to sign for car maintenance, there is a 1-2 weeks queue. For me it looks like this sector lacks of professionals or workers. This is just a quick example, and I am sure anyone could name a bunch of other examples, when they have to wait for service for some time. So why not those who get replaced by AI, move to those jobs?
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AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. There's no doubt that AI is making progress, but it seems that the media hypes it up and thinks that it will achieve a lot in a short span of time. It is happening incrementally and it may get faster to develop tech in future, but it still feels like we are decades out from losing a lot of the more manual jobs that currently exist. Even then, you may find that there are still plenty of service type jobs out there because people want to interact and not rely on robotics for everything. In fact we might see more people falling into service type jobs in future as more office type rolls are automated. All this is happening rather slowly, because while the tech companies might be making massive breakthroughs, the implementation is much slower to happen in the real world.
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. There's no doubt that AI is making progress, but it seems that the media hypes it up and thinks that it will achieve a lot in a short span of time. It is happening incrementally and it may get faster to develop tech in future, but it still feels like we are decades out from losing a lot of the more manual jobs that currently exist. Even then, you may find that there are still plenty of service type jobs out there because people want to interact and not rely on robotics for everything. In fact we might see more people falling into service type jobs in future as more office type rolls are automated. All this is happening rather slowly, because while the tech companies might be making massive breakthroughs, the implementation is much slower to happen in the real world. It would really be happening on gradual basis but its true that this kind of change or integration is something that will really be that inevitable on which technology is really that getting advanced as the years passing by and there would really be those changes that will really be making things more convenient and comfortable to make use of on which the example is on this AI development on which it would really be having that huge benefits or something that will really be making life even more faster and efficient but we know that in everything which considers to be good, then there would really be always that disadvantageous side on which it would really be that understandable. There would really be those jobs that would really be getting replaced by robots or in fully automation specially on some industries on which it would really be that a bad news for those people who do work into those industries. This is why if you've seen yourself that you are on an industry on which you have seen that it could be potentially be replaced anytime soon because of this advancement, then it would really be just that wise that you should really be finding some alternatives or back up plans just in case if things gotten worst. It would really be just that depending or basing up on how you would really be acting according into such situation.
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July 23, 2024, 09:24:06 PM |
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AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.
Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business. With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future.
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July 23, 2024, 09:27:00 PM |
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Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.
I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens.
Nevertheless, fuck AI.
I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management.
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It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want.
Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard. Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it. Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way.
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Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.
I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens.
Nevertheless, fuck AI.
I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management. This is true and this is the paradox of any such complex mechanism or technology. Yes, we can put robots in factories, we can see how AI creates cultural values, but who will maintain all this? For every worker noticed, an AI or complex machine maintenance worker will be needed. Thus, the qualifications of the workers themselves must increase so that they remain fit for work. But AI will not completely replace them.
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July 24, 2024, 02:34:41 PM |
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It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want.
Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard. Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it. Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way. Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry? Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible that you do look for other ways or alternatives.
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AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.
Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business. With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future. AI taking jobs is making everyone crazy, but it's not that big of a deal. Jobs change every time technology gets better. Yes, some jobs are lost, but new ones are always being made. What is this AI thing? It's not about taking our place; it's about working with us to make what we can do even better. This is how people are made: to adapt. AI is just the next task, the next chance to get better. Don't worry about keeping what you already have; instead, build what will come next. Accept AI, and let's make a world where technology makes our lives better, more connected, and a lot more fun
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July 24, 2024, 06:09:33 PM |
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No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no.
Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known.
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July 24, 2024, 09:48:28 PM |
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No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no.
Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known.
AI can replace humans in certain roles. Tech companies like those you mentioned have cut down their workforce in the last four years and have automated those jobs. Companies are willing to embrace AI as it will mean less staff and less salaries to be paid. You are greatly mistaken if you think AI cannot take your jobs. However AI can’t replace humans when it comes to jobs that require creativity and human empathy because they do not feel and can only interact with humans in a chatbot manner.
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It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI.
While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI.
You mean like replacing artists? Yes, Generative AI is now capable of doing this. People can generate art by just typing a few words on screen (also known as text prompts). Models like StableDiffusion, DALL-E, etc allow this. And that's not all. AI is also capable of generating content like resumes, essays, books, and more. Not only the tech will replace human jobs, but it will also make humans more sluggish and dumber (people won't bother to learn how to do things on their own). I guess this is what governments and "Elites" want, right? Let's pray AI doesn't become much of a threat as Terminator's Skynet. Else, we'd be doomed. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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