Practical methods to help addicted gamblers(2).

[AmoreJaz]

I do not think it is the right thing to do to hide your gambling activities from another person that is trying to quit, after all a person that has never gambled before has no idea what it is like, it is like if a single person gave marriage advice to those that are married, it does not really make a lot of sense, so if anything your advice holds more weight because you are a responsible gambler, and you can tell them that what they are doing is not right and they need to change their ways or quit.

That's the other side of the coin, which doesn't necessarily mean that this is right and the OP's opinion isn't. Someone who has gone through gambling, and they aren't addicted themselves, has hands-on experience with gambling, and thus may be more suitable to give advice, as you're supposedly the role model of someone who's a responsible gambler, enjoying his time and earning some money in return every now and then.

In my opinion, if someone's addicted, drastic measures, along with therapy, are required, such as cutting their access to money, especially online payments, blocking their casino accounts, or even the websites themselves.

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

And if you are one of the closest persons to the addicted gambler, you may want to know the root cause of him being addicted. Understand where he is coming from. Learning the bottom of it will give you insights on how to truly help that person get out of the grave. Because addressing what's on the surface will only waste the resources of the family but won't totally resolve the situation.

[Zigabel]

Even as a responsible gambler, you may not be taken seriously if you advise another fellow gambler who is having problems and slowly becoming an addict to stop gambling completely.

This is why I put forward this advice: before you advise someone to quit gambling as a gambler, you have to hide your gambling activities from them so it doesn't look like you are advising them to do something that you yourself cannot do.

If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income, you can help them find other, more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.

What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better, aside from professional help?

NB: The discussion was first started on altcoinstalks.

Asides professional help, keeping these gamblers away from their possible triggers is a way of keeping them away from gambling, one of which is keeping every form of the casino away from them, making sure they don't get access to free funds frequently enough to finance their gambling habit. But the facts remain that you cannot give a very perfect help help to a gambler especially an addict except for a professional help.

[robelneo]

Practical methods like advising keeping him away from gambling or any other activities are just band-aid solutions. These are not meant to cure addiction, they will still go on and play, and they will find a way to play.

The only practical solution is to get the help of a professional because they will study the person's character, implement a plan exclusively for him, and monitor his improvement to get the desired results; a person's level of addiction can only be defined by professional, they know how to look addiction on a person.

[Forsyth Jones]

Unfortunately, if the player remains addicted, even though he has heard their arguments and continues to ignore them, there is nothing more that can be done for him, individuals are responsible for their actions, each person.

We can't force someone to stop gambling, even if it's harmful to their mental and financial health, which we can do and convince them through arguments and suggestions.

Nothing forced will help, the addict will always find some way to get around the imposed barrier and go and bet in person/online.

Or he will find money to bet, if his relatives take away access to his account/money, especially if he has crypto that only he has access to (seed), he can continue playing if he still has access to a cell phone/computer with internet.

[taufik123]

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The only practical solution is to get the help of a professional because they will study the person's character, implement a plan exclusively for him, and monitor his improvement to get the desired results; a person's level of addiction can only be defined by professional, they know how to look addiction on a person.

Professionals in the field of psychology so that evaluations can be carried out about addictions that make a person lose control.
But of course this will require a lot of money, because professionals charge quite expensive rates.

In addition, support from the surrounding environment and family is also quite important so that someone who is too addicted to gambling can control themselves and believe that they can escape the addiction.

Many people are addicted to gambling because they initially just want to release their stress with gambling, but in the end they focus too much on gambling.

[Ultegra134]

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

And if you are one of the closest persons to the addicted gambler, you may want to know the root cause of him being addicted. Understand where he is coming from. Learning the bottom of it will give you insights on how to truly help that person get out of the grave. Because addressing what's on the surface will only waste the resources of the family but won't totally resolve the situation.

That's true, in most cases someone doesn't suddenly get addicted to gambling, they have underlying issues such as depression and gambling is their getaway. There's always a deeper cause that the one that's displayed. Of course, it goes without saying that the person should be willing to change, otherwise, even if you ban access to casinos or to their finances, they're still going to find a way to override any obstacles you put in their way.

[traderethereum]

Practical methods like advising keeping him away from gambling or any other activities are just band-aid solutions. These are not meant to cure addiction, they will still go on and play, and they will find a way to play.

The only practical solution is to get the help of a professional because they will study the person's character, implement a plan exclusively for him, and monitor his improvement to get the desired results; a person's level of addiction can only be defined by professional, they know how to look addiction on a person.

Without action, they will not have a chance to cure their gambling addiction and only makes them deeper in gambling. Their gambling addiction becomes high with passion to continue playing gambling without stopping.
They will not see how to cure addiction as they will thinks gambling often than other people. If they can not playing gambling today, they will trying to search for other ways to gambling in the other days.
Asking for a professional helps will be necessary for them so they will gets the right methods that they can do to cure their gambling addiction. If they are serious to cure their gambling addiction, they will follows every process needed until they gets their second chance to have normal life.

[Notalony]

To help someone with a gambling addiction can be very difficult and very challenging, but I will suggest encouraging such person with a gambling addiction to consult a specialist such a therapist that specialized on anything that has to do addiction can help in long way, educating a gambling addicted about the importance of good funds management can help too, so that such individual can not given too to gambling, but rather get used to a particular amount of money to be used for gambling.

[stadus]

Many people are addicted to gambling because they initially just want to release their stress with gambling, but in the end they focus too much on gambling.

Gambling is fun but personally if I'm stress, I would not gamble as I don't feel confident with what I'm doing. I mean, if I just want to relieve my stress, that means I'm willing to loss what I have as my focus is just to enjoy, that's very different when you are mentally prepared as you are being optimistic in winning when you are gambling. Maybe some would just gamble for fun and doesn't mind if they lose, and I think with that kind of mentality, addiction is less likely to happen to them.

[crwth]

Well since this is already the second topic, you must make it an understanding that talking about this isn't going to help someone that is addicted. It's always going to be the action that needs to be taken not the "discussion"

It's always going to be "practice makes progress"

This has probably been discussed enough that there are practical ways to approach addiction. The best way IMO is to have professional help.

[$weetne$$]

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

We can not change a gambling addict when he does not want to change because an addiction is not a problem that develops all of a sudden and you can not end it without passing through a process of rehabilitation. If an addict has debts, you can start by paying off the debts because owing debts is why many gamblers are addicted to gambling. They got into the debt because of gambling and now they think they can go out of debt through gambling but it never ends well. Alot of young gamblers are addicted but they do not have a working job to help them since they are depending on gambling to make money. If they can get a real job that would help them to get money, they can reduced their gambling and stop being addicted.

[danherbias07]

Many people are addicted to gambling because they initially just want to release their stress with gambling, but in the end they focus too much on gambling.

Gambling is fun but personally if I'm stress, I would not gamble as I don't feel confident with what I'm doing. I mean, if I just want to relieve my stress, that means I'm willing to loss what I have as my focus is just to enjoy, that's very different when you are mentally prepared as you are being optimistic in winning when you are gambling. Maybe some would just gamble for fun and doesn't mind if they lose, and I think with that kind of mentality, addiction is less likely to happen to them.

That's the best approach as long as there's no expectation. The problem is, that most gamblers are expecting way too much from gambling that they want either a bigger win or to give back what they had lost. That's very difficult to happen.
If both odds are on our side as a gambler then they will lose their business and every gambler must understand this first before they jump the gun.
I've been playing so long that frustrations can sometimes get the better of me and I don't like it. Stress, that's true, if all it gives us is stress then might as well not gamble at all.
It's not like we are being forced to do it, we could use it as entertainment as long as we are ready to lose what we deposited.

[Zoomic]

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

We can not change a gambling addict when he does not want to change because an addiction is not a problem that develops all of a sudden and you can not end it without passing through a process of rehabilitation. If an addict has debts, you can start by paying off the debts because owing debts is why many gamblers are addicted to gambling. They got into the debt because of gambling and now they think they can go out of debt through gambling but it never ends well. Alot of young gamblers are addicted but they do not have a working job to help them since they are depending on gambling to make money. If they can get a real job that would help them to get money, they can reduced their gambling and stop being addicted.

A person who chooses to gamble just to pay off debts is either irresponsible or acting out of desperation. If he is irresponsible, it then means paying off his debts won't be enough to make him gamble less or quit gambling. He will need lots of rehabilitation to be able to see things the normal way. Most times what these people need is a professional help from someone who is trained to take care of those going through addiction and many other mental issues because as friends, we might assume lots of things and even offer helps that might not really be a solution. It is only when these affected gamblers get the right help and become mentally sound that they can take up good jobs and retain those jobs too.

[Hispo]

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This is why I put forward this advice: before you advise someone to quit gambling as a gambler, you have to hide your gambling activities from them so it doesn't look like you are advising them to do something that you yourself cannot do.

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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better, aside from professional help?

That sounds rather a matter of common sense and not explicitly on something completely associated to gambling, in my opinion. Nobody likes to be advised by someone who does not practice what they preach, that is a no-brainer and when comes to gambling it is rather subjective when we talk of people who are slowly sliding into a step of addiction.
For example, would you believe someone gambling twice a week is in a state of vulnerability and slowly sliding towards addiction or not? You probably think not, but in the eyes of certain religious people gambling that consecutively is a clear sign of addiction in their opinion. Again, it is very subjective.

To me, one of the most important steps to be taken in order to stay away from gambling addiction and even recover from it, would be to find a productive way to keep one's mind busy and away from think about wagering money constantly; I have seen people here in the forum suggesting to turn to video games to replace gambling, but completely turn on video games is not as productive, the ideal solution could be to get a job which is tolerable enough for the addicted person and keeps their mind busy from gambling. Though, the first paydays will be specially challenging to the person as they will be undoubtedly feel tempted to gamble with their paycheck.

[Accardo]

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

We can not change a gambling addict when he does not want to change because an addiction is not a problem that develops all of a sudden and you can not end it without passing through a process of rehabilitation. If an addict has debts, you can start by paying off the debts because owing debts is why many gamblers are addicted to gambling. They got into the debt because of gambling and now they think they can go out of debt through gambling but it never ends well. A lot of young gamblers are addicted but they do not have a working job to help them since they are depending on gambling to make money. If they can get a real job that would help them to get money, they can reduced their gambling and stop being addicted.

True, If a gambler is equipped with a good paying job, he would be distracted from participating compulsively in the game. However, addicts having been offered a work, still, don't have the control over themselves. It's mainly a problem that leads to seeing players who are gambling in their working environment. Moreover, trying to hide our gaming activities, just for the life of an addict may help the person, but would mare him whenever he finds out that we are also gambling under closed doors.

Nothing stops us from letting him know that we are also gamblers, but responsible. It'll open within the player, a mind that other players like himself actually control themselves from compulsive gambling. Having good gambling peers also influences the player in a good manner. Since it's a steady healing process, the responsible gambler only require the gambling sessions of the compulsive player to help moderate his excessive gambling habit. And save him from staying in the compulsive part of gambling for a long period.

[noormcs5]

Asides professional help, keeping these gamblers away from their possible triggers is a way of keeping them away from gambling, one of which is keeping every form of the casino away from them, making sure they don't get access to free funds frequently enough to finance their gambling habit. But the facts remain that you cannot give a very perfect help help to a gambler especially an addict except for a professional help.

This is like removing access of these gambling platforms and gambling portfolio from an addicted gambler so that he or she has no option of gambling. This may be practical approach but may not belong lasting. An addicted gambler can still arrange funds from gambling from his friends etc and can gamble without others knowing about it.

A better and long-lasting approach should be like counselling of the gamblers so that he (the addicted) make up his mind himself to gamble with responsibility. He starts to know what is right and wrong for him and in this way when a gambler himself stops him from gambling excessively, then is the real turn around for him.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If, as a gambler, you want to help other gamblers who are addicted to gambling, the best thing is to help them have a disciplined gambling lifestyle like yourself. You don't need to tell them to quit gambling totally because it will definitely be difficult for them to do that, and some of them will not even stop, so you can start by advising them and guiding them on how they can gamble with a budget and with a timetable. How they can manage their bankroll and also educate them not to see gambling as a source of income that can be relied upon. 

[Gheka]

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

We can not change a gambling addict when he does not want to change because an addiction is not a problem that develops all of a sudden and you can not end it without passing through a process of rehabilitation. If an addict has debts, you can start by paying off the debts because owing debts is why many gamblers are addicted to gambling. They got into the debt because of gambling and now they think they can go out of debt through gambling but it never ends well. Alot of young gamblers are addicted but they do not have a working job to help them since they are depending on gambling to make money. If they can get a real job that would help them to get money, they can reduced their gambling and stop being addicted.

Indeed, there is no sudden transformation in the nature of an addict, nor is there a magic elixir that cures them in seconds, if an addict suddenly gets better and stops being addicted, it can only be said that they are playing their script too well and they will definitely do bad things in the future. The actual methods are just predetermined plans, even though more paper and ink is spent on the story, the addiction continues, instead of looking at the method, we should call an addict to action immediately, there is no need to hesitate and look for salvation from someone

[Casdinyard]

Even as a responsible gambler, you may not be taken seriously if you advise another fellow gambler who is having problems and slowly becoming an addict to stop gambling completely.

This is why I put forward this advice: before you advise someone to quit gambling as a gambler, you have to hide your gambling activities from them so it doesn't look like you are advising them to do something that you yourself cannot do.

If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income, you can help them find other, more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.

What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better, aside from professional help?

NB: The discussion was first started on altcoinstalks.

While I see the angle you're trying to make an attack out of, you also have to consider that some people believe that wisdom comes from experience. And what I meant by that is there are some people who will not believe, may not even listen to you at all, all because they don't think you have been in the same boat that they have been in. Which is where letting them know you're gambling or have been a gambler in the past takes a lot of relevance. You can basically give them advice based on experiences you have come to in the past, and then manipulate them in a way that suits your and their needs.

With your second stuff I would somewhat agree but the thing is that you have to teach people how to fish so they don't end up asking you for food all the time. Sure you can give them tips on how to find reliable sources of income but you have to get them the job itself, provided that they are already good from the gambling addiction they once experienced, and then help them secure it so they don't end up gambling again for money. I see your point but it's just that there's a couple of flaws in it that might end up causing you more trouble than good.

[Raflesia]

Someone who tries to tell others to stop gambling but they are still gambling is like telling people not to swim because the water is deep but they are already in the pool. That obviously won't have any effect and I think people on this forum also understand that when they are gamblers then there is no way they can prohibit other people's activities to gamble because it is clearly impossible, it's just that in this case we as both players must remind each other that gambling is not a good thing if it continues to be done without good control so that even if we still gamble in the end but when we can control the gambling activities we do and can overcome the problems that will arise from gambling then at least it can minimize so that we don't think gambling is everything.

I personally feel that we all cannot forbid each other to stop gambling as long as we are still gambling but we can remind each other so that we do not fall into a situation where we are addicted too badly which ultimately harms ourselves.