Changing Perception About Gambling

[iv4n]

...the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications...

This is something that every country should have, unfortunately, it is not the case. In addition to the gambling tax, it could be taken from other taxes and all that money could be used for the treatment of citizens. You live in a nice state, in my state, the casinos pay a lot of taxes for sure and invest a lot in sports fields around the country, I guess that is a good part, but we all know they use it to advertise and reduce taxes because they invest money in various social organizations as well.

[darkangel11]

Did I read it right? OP's friend started gambling because of that small % of the money going on taxes and an even smaller % of that tax money going to healthcare? If he really wants to impact healthcare and taxation he should simply start a company. He'd have to pay healthcare tax for himself and all his employees and that would be a significant sum. He'd also be making money in the process. Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.

[Adbitco]

Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.

This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.

[Wexnident]

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That's... oddly specific. I don't think asking for help in social welfare even includes them being told that "Hey, this money came from taxes from gamblers!" kind of thing. But anyway, if it was negative I don't think this would've been enough to change it. In the first place, it's not about where the money goes, the negative idea about gambling is because of how it gets the money.

In most cases, at least in most news articles shown to people, it's about gamblers being destroyed by gambling. Yes, it helps people sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it can and will destroy some peoples lives. You can argue that it's not really their fault, but just because of players being impulsive which is true, but again the initial idea that it destroyed the lives of people still stands. Pretty sure that's how most peoples idea stand, at least from what I feel/understand about them.

[Ojima-ojo]

Did I read it right? OP's friend started gambling because of that small % of the money going on taxes and an even smaller % of that tax money going to healthcare? If he really wants to impact healthcare and taxation he should simply start a company. He'd have to pay healthcare tax for himself and all his employees and that would be a significant sum. He'd also be making money in the process. Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.

I don't think also that the perception about gambling is also ok and this for me a negative aspects of gambling, how can you gamble with the aim that when you lose the casino goes to pay tax from such loses, because at the end if he continue to gamble with such a pattern he will end up becoming an addicts or even go into debt simply by trying to meet up with his set targets.


At the end he will not impact anything on the healthcare sector as he wish and also may not end well personally, I buy into your idea of him starting a project such as a healthcare oriented company and give back directly to the society, gambling can give him such positive result.

[famososMuertos]

I think that his position was not correct or incorrect in relation to the subject, it was his way of thinking about something that undoubtedly many people do not understand, in my case it is difficult for me to believe that some countries penalize gambling, but, the prostitution, oh is allowed.

Consequently, he initial position is fine, no problem, I respect it, but then it changes due to the fact that betting generates tax payments, and that even many gaming companies have social aid foundations, etc., hey, like any other bussines, but, it is an error of conviction in reference to the subject.

That denotes misinformation in the criteria of ideas in reference to gambling topic, because I repeat; It is very valid to be against betting, but it is also very valid to support it. In reality, social aid should not have changed its initial position; in short, it is an issue with many aspects socio-culturals.

[AliMan]

That only depends on what will be the reason of a person has, we couldn't judge their undertakings towards gambling. If their purpose is good towards partaking gambling, then there's no doubt about it since the motives is for very crucial and important reason. Sometimes we will break our every principles just for sacrificing our dignity for a love ones, yes we hate something but I believed it could come to an exception once there's a deeper reason on a case to case basis.

[GreatArkansas]

How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

For me, nothing changed. This is just another positive effect of gambling, think also some people lose a lot of money like their lives due to excessive gambling.
This gaming corporation giving away money is very small percentage how they make money off gambling, some also doing this due to some tax related.

[boty]

This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.

Of course, it is impossible to get rich if we gamble continuously and in fact we all often see those who have gambled frequently, they will experience financial problems and it is not uncommon for someone who gambles frequently that they don't. can have savings because they always spend more of the funds they have on gambling so they don't have time to think about having savings.

Limiting ourselves to gambling activities is of course very important because no one can win their gambling often and only luck can give us a win and of course we rarely get this in gambling, so it would be better for us to be able to control ourselves. When gambling and when we lose, we can stop and not continue gambling which will cause us to experience even more losses.

[junder]

Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.

This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.

Indeed, there are many people who misunderstand gambling, thinking that they can get rich quickly by gambling and they also think that gambling is a means of being able to make money for sure. Unfortunately, this is of course not true because with their understanding like that, they will only feel annoyed. When the money they bet on is lost in gambling, apart from that, they will not be able to accept the money they bet on and lose it in gambling, so this attitude and behavior will only make them more addicted to gambling. The wrong mindset regarding understanding gambling must be changed, they must be able to consider gambling as a means of entertainment, nothing more than that. If they want to be rich, of course they have to work for real, not just by hoping for a miracle to happen by gambling, don't get big wins or win consistently, to get just one win, which isn't even big, is very difficult. So if they have the wrong thoughts about gambling then they will only put themselves at the point of misery.

Of course we ourselves will determine what our fate will be in the future, if we can gamble responsibly then there is little chance of big losses occurring because having a sense of responsibility can make us prevent actions that carry big risks, because many gamblers experience big losses. because they do not have a good sense of responsibility or boundaries with the gambling they do. However, when they think that gambling is wrong and are addicted, it is certainly not easy to change their mindset or perception about the gambling they do. Those who are addicted to gambling certainly have the perception that they can get money or win at gambling with certainty so they don't think that winnings at gambling are based on luck. and of course that will set them up for misery.

[Apocollapse]

However, there are still many people who deny the donation from gambling, they say "the social welfare didn't only get donation from gambling, but they also get from rich people, big manufactures etc."

Just like people who boycott companies that supporting Israel or didn't help Palestine, but they're still use their products. Google, cell phone, etc are made from the companies they boycotted.

For me, nothing changed. This is just another positive effect of gambling, think also some people lose a lot of money like their lives due to excessive gambling.
This gaming corporation giving away money is very small percentage how they make money off gambling, some also doing this due to some tax related.

Why they lose their lives? if they become poor, they're eligible to get donation from government where the funds come from gambling, right?

[_act_]

Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.

Gambling because 15% of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is not a shitty excuse. It is very good in my opinion and not an excuse. The guy does not like gambling because he knows that people are losing than they are winning. But he later knew that in his country, some of the taxes from gambling goes to health care which helped him. He then start to gamble because of that. He has in mind already that gambling is very risky, that he can lose the money. But that if he lose, some of the money will go to healthcare in a way that some lives can be saved just like during his time in hospital. It is a brilliant thinking.

[davis196]

Life can be ridiculous sometimes. So a bunch of gambling addicts ruined their lives and wasted their money on a casino. The casino paid gambling taxes and a part of those taxes were used to save the life of this guy's wife. Does this justify gambling and gambling addiction? Hell no. I agree that the gambling industry should pay taxes, but most of those taxes should be going to addiction rehab programs. Just because gambling money were used for the healthcare system doesn't mean that gambling isn't ruining the lives of many people. I'm not putting the blame entirely on the gambling industry. I also don't want to put the blame on the addicts, because they are sick people, that need treatment.
Everyone is guilty more or less. Life is absurd.

[Kelward]

We are from the same country as OP yes, gambling is legal in our country, but with strict restrictions; when I was not yet betting, I also did not like gambling, but after seeing the big allocations and the many schools, hospitals, and medical equipment bought by Pagcor and PCSO the two agencies that manage the gambling operation in our country, we become supportive, there is no free hospitalization in our country you need to be part of the poor sector to avail of this help.
Gambling is considered evil by many, but for some people, it's a blessing for their needs.

This is a good gesture by gambling companies to directly support the health sector in your country. I'm hearing of it for the first time, I believe that most gambling companies will only pay obligatory taxes to the government. This good deeds of gambling companies will definitely keep increasing the number of gamblers in your country, especially the poor to give back to appreciate the gambling companies, like the man in the OP.

I know that most people that were skeptical about gambling and later begin to engage in it is because of financial lack. I made a comment on a related thread yesterday where I said that poverty can push people who condemn gambling to turn around to become gambler.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5502307.msg64302904#msg64302904

[Kakmakr]

Yes, gambling generate a lot of taxes, but it also create a burden on the government. A lot of people with gambling problems turn to crime to feed their addiction and then they hurt other people.

How many times have we read about employees stealing money from their work and bankrupting those businesses... this leads to unemployment for the many other innocent people that worked for these businesses.

The opposite is also true... some people win millions in Lotteries and they start businesses... creating jobs for many people.

There are many good and bad things that might come from the gambling industry and responsible gambling can change people's lives in a positive way.

Regulation should govern gambling operations to help prevent gambling addiction and all the negative things that come with that.

[bering]

In my opinion it's easy to change the perception about gambling if you were live in the country who legalized gambling because usually the government from those countries were takes taxes from any gambling or casino activities and those government also can properly manage the money from taxes which is used to build public facilities including the health of their people and i have no wonder people at there will starting to change their perception about gambling and start to support these activities because the government knows how to take advantage from gambling and use it for public needs but it could be different if you were live in the countries who considers gambling is illegal because in these countries gambling always be considered as the activities which will give negative impact to the people so i think if people want to change the perception about gambling generally first of all the government from those countries should be accept and legalized gambling

[satscraper]

My perception has been never changed, probably because I'm involved into gambling from the school age when I and my classmates were beting on primitive events. Later on, being in college, I have gave my mind to roulette in the local casino and since that time I maintain a peg with this hissing wheel by visiting casinos in various  visited countries. Consequently,  this my habitue became a sign of gambling mastery.

[ethereumhunter]

My perception about gambling is neutral because we never knows if gambling can really helps people from the gambling tax that's allocated for health sector. Maybe there will be other things that will gets the distribution from the gambling tax so that can helps people and the country. But for those who playing gambling, they really needs to have many things such as self control, limitation, discipline and other things to prevents the gambling addiction.

It's normal if some people doesn't like gambling and wants gambling to be prohibit but they don't know what the function of gambling tax for their country. As long as the tax can be distribute to the right place, that will helps people and the development of the country.

[EarnOnVictor]

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With this, his perception of gambling changed. He now supports betting on the lottery and sometimes takes a chance by betting as a way to thank the agency and, at the same time, try to win the jackpot.

Sincerely, I view your friend as selfish, you do not need to benefit from something before you have the true disposition about the thing. If benefits come in, it might cloud your true judgement and I am sure he might change his stance later if gambling causes issues around him afterwards. This is because his decision is not on solid ground but for the help.

How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

I've never abused gambling and no matter how people talk about it, I will always uphold my own beliefs about it. Gambling has never been bad, it is those who are engaging it badly that are stereotyping it. There have been both positive and negative stories about gambling, it's we who should make sure that we are not a part of the negative stories.

Note: I'll be locking this thread after 40 replies or three days after this creation.

Why? You shouldn't in my opinion. Let people express themselves and if they are satisfied, the thread will naturally find its way to the forgotten threads directory.

[passwordnow]

Well, there are good and bad effects of gambling with each individual that does it. If we'd look at the entire equilibrium of it, there are benefits that we barely notice on how the entire industry helps. And we can't be blamed because what we always see are the negative effects of gambling to each individuals per se. But if it's about the contribution that it does to an economy, we'd see the huge help that it does.

Aside from these, those foundations and charities that are initiative of these casinos. We have to appreciate them giving back to the community just like what OPs example. And we can't blame also those people that have negative thoughts and perception about gambling if they're only seeing the effect that it does to a person. It's a common knowledge that its impact always tend to be addictive, which results to a gambler doing things not according to what they used to do.