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July 09, 2024, 11:48:24 AM
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What I value in gambling is that no gambling company or casino invites me to gamble. I gamble on my own and the results that come out there are based on my actions, so why should I call gambling companies or casinos are bad. Moreover, it is not just an only company but considered as an industry. We have no reason to be upset with it or view this gambling negatively. If someone doesn't like it then he can leave it but we can't blame others for our mistakes. Those who want to ban gambling are either failing themselves or are misguided. Gambling is not a problem for anyone if it is seen as a source of entertainment rather than a source of income. Governments of various countries are collecting revenue from this platform and using it for the welfare of the country.
I guess is something with most of us here, no one forced us into gambling and in my country gambling platforms are not promoted publicly which shows how low casino exposures are in the country, but then even with the low publicity a good number of citizens like myself still gamble and the reason for that is because we have motivations to gamble and fine it fun to gamble that make us tasty for gambling to the extent that we don't need casino to be promoted to us both directly or indirectly.

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July 09, 2024, 11:51:36 AM
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What country are you from? In my country, the poor will only suffer or work hard. The government are the ones that have the highest payment from the revenues the government are generating from taxes and other sources.

I am a man that think not on one side. This makes me not to hate gambling right from when I know that gambling exists. But I always wish people will understand gambling before they are gambling because gambling is very risky. Only little amount of money like 1% of your weekly income should be as bankroll for gambling.
Then it must be that you're from a country with a bad government structure and many corrupt government officials that loot funds meant for public use, because money generated from gambling taxes are meant for the public, to help establish the medical, education sector and assist the poor just like the OP's neighbour was assisted, I feel bad though cause I also come from a society where the government benefits more from revenue and leave much of it's citizens impoverished. Well, just like you I've never been biased concerning gambling cause I gamble occasionally and asides that I believe lots of people might have in one way or the other benefited from it either through winning jackpots from casinos or profits won by a friend or family member or even revenue generated from taxes paid by casino's.

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July 09, 2024, 11:56:52 AM
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A lot of people don't know that casinos do contribute their little quarter to charity organizations and for free health care to government, that is why they are always criticizing gambling. It was when I was growing up that I thought I will not engage in gambling but as I grew up to understand that it isn't bad the way some folks talk about it. I found myself gambling and I don't criticize gambling.


You are talking about casinos run by the government or private casinos?

If it's run by the government, of course the revenue or net income will go to the people and the development of the country. However, if it's a private casino that is regulated by the government, they can only get a certain percentage of the income of the casinos. As for the casinos, we don't know where their money is going after paying taxes because they don't have any other responsibility aside from paying taxes and licensing fees.

Even if it is a government owned casino , still all the revenue do not go for the people welfare. If it is a welfare gambling organizations only then we can assume that all the revenue will be for the public benefit.

So gambling casino profits are usually meant for those who own the casino and it is a proper business model. Yes, the more revenue casino generates, the more it will be required to pay taxes to government. By the way it's hard to change anyone's gambling perceptions.

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July 09, 2024, 12:16:44 PM
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So gambling casino profits are usually meant for those who own the casino and it is a proper business model. Yes, the more revenue casino generates, the more it will be required to pay taxes to government. By the way it's hard to change anyone's gambling perceptions.

It is different when the gambling industry is run and managed by the government. Taxes and revenues all go to the government for allocation to the sector that needs funding the most.

We cannot blame the guy in the story; some people just show gratitude to whom they owe their lives or their loved ones, in this case, the casino industry managed by the government, so changing their perception is not hard for him.

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July 09, 2024, 12:21:24 PM
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I have a neighbor who hates any form of gambling, and he wants gambling to be banned; at one time, we argued, and I argued that here in our country, taxes coming from gambling are a big help to the poorest of the poor, so he should not support banning and just let people bet. Still, it seems back then nothing can change his mind.

Then one day it happened one of his loved ones needed an operation and medication, and since he was poor he had no money to use for the operation and to buy medicines, but one of his relatives advised him to go to the hospital's social welfare and with the help of the social welfare and the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications.
I’m glad he saw the light that gambling is not really a bad thing. Apart from the benefits gained from taxes it has been of good help to a lot of youths in my country as well, a country with less job opportunities and number of unemployed youths increasing everyday but they got hope from gambling even though the road is tough sometimes and they lose money but they are still able to make something from it. I think it’s time for people to accept gambling to be part of us now, it’s not a bad thing when you are knowledgeable about it and how to be a responsible gambler.

How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?
I have never had anything against gambling from on set, i have been a supporter of gambling from beginning so nothing will change my perception about it. It has really been a good help for a lot of people financially even though it has it’s own disadvantages when engaged carelessly.

One funny thing is that, the only major thing that will drag me and keep me gambling to make some extra cash and that’s one bitter truth that every gambler will be shying away from saying but it’s the obvious truth.
That’s the driving force for most gamblers but they don’t wannt to admit it although not everyone is motivated to gamble because of earning extra money from it.

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July 09, 2024, 01:28:30 PM
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This perception is correct but not completely justified. My point is that from the start it was true that gambling should be prohibited if the impact was that poor people would become poorer as a result of gambling. But when his relative became ill and had to get charitable assistance from a foundation whose funds were generated from gambling, it also ended positively. It's just a fact that not every country does that, especially social agencies whose nature is to provide assistance to the community. We were clearly not used to such donations, and his perception changed to justify gambling activities in favor of lotteries and he was caught in the loop.

We are from the same country as OP yes, gambling is legal in our country, but with strict restrictions; when I was not yet betting, I also did not like gambling, but after seeing the big allocations and the many schools, hospitals, and medical equipment bought by Pagcor and PCSO the two agencies that manage the gambling operation in our country, we become supportive, there is no free hospitalization in our country you need to be part of the poor sector to avail of this help.
Gambling is considered evil by many, but for some people, it's a blessing for their needs.

Turning to the other side, because your country legalizes gambling so it can collect taxes, of course this system is clearly structured. This means that the government and casinos both regulate the circulation of money in casinos back to their citizens. In my country, the problem is that the circulation of money in casinos does not go into the country but abroad, which in the end causes state losses of almost billions of dollars. The economic cycle stops as gamblers put money into the casinos while the casinos take profits overseas. Our government is stressed because the economy is not running, which has an impact on money printing, inflation, increasingly expensive goods prices, and worst of all, the regional economic cycle is hampered.

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July 09, 2024, 01:59:31 PM
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I would say he went too far to have started gambling. His perception should only change and not his ethics. He would still be someone who does not want to gamble even if his relative got free medication. What would have been the case if he really believed in his ethics was that he would allow the support of gambling and not look at those people who gamble around him as people who are irresponsible. I now humans are weak and when things go the other way round, they always change. I just hate to see condemners always turn to be the ones doing it the most.

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July 09, 2024, 02:39:28 PM
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This really happened:
I have a neighbor who hates any form of gambling, and he wants gambling to be banned; at one time, we argued, and I argued that here in our country, taxes coming from gambling are a big help to the poorest of the poor, so he should not support banning and just let people bet. Still, it seems back then nothing can change his mind.

Then one day it happened one of his loved ones needed an operation and medication, and since he was poor he had no money to use for the operation and to buy medicines, but one of his relatives advised him to go to the hospital's social welfare and with the help of the social welfare and the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications.

With this, his perception of gambling changed. He now supports betting on the lottery and sometimes takes a chance by betting as a way to thank the agency and, at the same time, try to win the jackpot.

How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

Let's have a discussion on this.

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When I was growing up my mom always complain about my dad's gambling attitudes. She made a case out of nothing every time my dad will bring up his gambling magazines to read news and make his focast with the weekly fixtures. She will always say that gambling are for irresponsible men, whereas my dad was responsible to the best of my knowledge. He always provide for us and pay the bills when due. Since I was more close to my mom I took side with her, don't blame me I was only a kid. Sometimes when my mom is not at home my dad will always tell me not to take my mom's view about gambling serious that she doesn't understand since she is not a gambler. My dad will always buy me new clothes and get for my mom too, but my mom will never reject it. One day my dad said to me that anytime he gets me clothes that I should know he has won a bet. That was when I realized that gambling wasn't a bad thing, because I haven't head or seen anyone or police coming to our house to look for my dad because of gambling. That was when my perspective changed about gambling and I said when I grew up I will be a gambler.

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July 09, 2024, 03:11:36 PM
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I think that behind the negative things about gambling there must be a positive side that we can take, especially taxes, I don't know how taxes are managed in each country, so far what I've heard about gambling taxes has been done in my country but unfortunately that's enough. It's been a long time, maybe around tens of years, where gambling taxes were used to develop a city for the better and it was enjoyed together, but as modern times have developed and many online gambling sites have taken advantage, the government no longer accepts taxes and now in my country it is considered gambling as illegal.

For me, perspective depends on each person's view, but hearing this story can actually change people's perspective on gambling, but this also doesn't justify gambling as a good and correct activity for people who can't control themselves. It's best not to gamble at all. That's not all. People can change their perspective about gambling in their eyes it will definitely remain the same.  Wink

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A unique story, someone who was inspired to gamble started when someone close to him received free medical services from gambling tax funds. Well, if a country regulates gambling well, then the benefits derived from tax income can be felt by the citizens of that country. By the way, once in my country gambling was legal, especially lotteries. However, currently gambling, casinos, both land-based and online, are illegal. although, that doesn't stop people from gambling "for those who enjoy it".

To be honest, I don't have a story that is nearly the same as in your post. because gambling is something that is very familiar to me personally. In my country, there are many traditional gambling games that have been passed down from generation to generation since ancient times. It's just that currently the law regulates it and does not allow it. It's a shame, even though there are many benefits from gambling taxes. Apart from that, reducing illegal gambling sites operating.


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July 09, 2024, 04:10:36 PM
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Nothing is either all white or all black. Like in the OP's friend's case, in my country a huge part of the income of the national lottery is used to finance the deficit (and a little part to "La Liga" Huh Roll Eyes) so when you play lottery you don't have the feeling that you are wasting your money if you don't win.

I understand that people in countries where there is no social security, public healthcare, public education... and there is no transparency about where the money goes can have a different perception. And we're not talking in this thread about games with an addiction potential, but about lotteries, which pose a low risk IMO.

So, again, in gambling, and in life in general, one shouldn't be so closed minded, but willing to change his mind if the evidences show him the opposite of what he thought.

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Gambling is actually not bad if the government is able to regulate and supervise operating platforms and also provide good education regarding responsible gambling to society. Because the tax money collected from the gambling industry can be used by the government to build infrastructure, subsidies and many other useful things for society at large - and that can provide jobs and improve the country's economy. So there is no need to be too anti-gambling because if it is managed wisely it can become something useful for society.

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July 09, 2024, 05:55:57 PM
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Gambling is actually not bad if the government is able to regulate and supervise operating platforms and also provide good education regarding responsible gambling to society. Because the tax money collected from the gambling industry can be used by the government to build infrastructure, subsidies and many other useful things for society at large - and that can provide jobs and improve the country's economy. So there is no need to be too anti-gambling because if it is managed wisely it can become something useful for society.
Exactly, the tax generated from gambling is very huge. If a country is smart enough to manage it, the results obtained will be very beneficial for the country itself. The country can even boost tourism in the surrounding areas of the gambling place. But on the other hand, there are also significant risks associated with gambling, especially related to addiction issues and financial losses that individuals may experience. Therefore, it is important for the government to implement strict policies and protection programs for the people so they can enjoy the benefits of gambling tax without having to feel the negative impacts that often come with it.

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July 09, 2024, 06:08:17 PM
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How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?
I have never considered gambling a negative thing but surely I've always wanted everyone to be safe from the addiction that it causes. If someone gambles with responsibility then there's nothing wrong in gambling because it's someone's own choice to either gamble or not and if it helps someone in relieving of stress then it's good instead of bad.

Your friend's preception changed because he got medical aid for his loved one and that aid somehow came from gambling taxes. If he never got that aid then he would never change his mindset related to gambling, actually he isn't supporting gambling because he likes it but supporting it because it somehow saved his loved one.

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July 09, 2024, 06:34:54 PM
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Personally, I only hate gambling when I was still young and uneducated, but when I reached the mature age and become more educated about gambling, I started to like it most especially that gambling does not require any job or profession, but certainly luck. And with luck comes a lot of people who have transform their lives from rags to riches, except for those who only gamble to lose all their life savings completely. While gambling brings a lot of luck and entertainment, still being a responsible gambler will always be a must so you won't just gamble blindly.
The reason why gamble requires one to have a job is because without a job the person who want to gamble will not have money to wager. But when it comes to professional gambler I do say that they are always lucky that's why anytime they bet they win, so people calls them professional gamblers, but 99% of their winning are from luck. Some gamblers trys to study gamble and their odds but those people are not always lucky all the time because the odds change.

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I would say he went too far to have started gambling. His perception should only change and not his ethics. He would still be someone who does not want to gamble even if his relative got free medication. What would have been the case if he really believed in his ethics was that he would allow the support of gambling and not look at those people who gamble around him as people who are irresponsible. I now humans are weak and when things go the other way round, they always change. I just hate to see condemners always turn to be the ones doing it the most.

All I can say is that he is influence because the agency where able to help and not playing because he see anything in gambling. Had it been it never occur to him to need such kind of favour, I'm very sure he wouldn't step a foot in any casino place involve himself in any casino website but it's cool, that's how it start. He can grow to understand it better with time if he look at in simply way why people gamble and not just a mere perception change because he was been helped.

Additionally, I think he also need guide. I hope he doesn't develop the mentality that whenever he need help, the first place that will ring his mind is going to be gambling, it will only lead to loss and from there, it might lead to addiction which can have a negative side on him.
By the way OP, the replies are now above 70 post and the thread is not yet lock, perhaps you are enjoying the relies you are seeing.

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In gambling people always wants to be triggered by something like say the positive effects they have gotten from it, it could be a huge winning or somehow close relative won lottery this could make them develop interest to start gambling. Seeing him change his entire mindset because he has a gotten a benefit from gambling due to the taxes they are remitting to the government and of a true this didn't happen there is no way he could have this mindset to start gambling I know more things to convince him is still coming and when he suddenly wins he interest would definitely increased over the time.

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How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

Let's have a discussion on this.


Back when I was in grade school, I thought that gambling is a bad activity, it is done by irresponsible people and the result is always negative.  But as I grow and become aware of the actual events in the world, this kind of thinking changes.

I found out that Gambling is not evil in its own way, it does not commit evil or intend to ruin people's life.  Gambling is created for entertainment and it creates jobs for people while donating part of its income to charity.  Gambling just like any tool is neutral.  Whether it will negatively impact one person is dependent on how that person engages in gambling.  So blame should not be pointed to gambling but rather to the person who abuses the use of the platform. 

If one wanted to find fault for these gambling addicts, blame the person, not the industry.  it is their own action that leads them to become one.



I would say he went too far to have started gambling. His perception should only change and not his ethics. He would still be someone who does not want to gamble even if his relative got free medication. What would have been the case if he really believed in his ethics was that he would allow the support of gambling and not look at those people who gamble around him as people who are irresponsible. I now humans are weak and when things go the other way round, they always change. I just hate to see condemners always turn to be the ones doing it the most.

All I can say is that he is influence because the agency where able to help and not playing because he see anything in gambling. Had it been it never occur to him to need such kind of favour, I'm very sure he wouldn't step a foot in any casino place involve himself in any casino website but it's cool, that's how it start. He can grow to understand it better with time if he look at in simply way why people gamble and not just a mere perception change because he was been helped.

The person just realized how the gambling industry helps the citizens of a country through charities.  There are lots of non-gambling company and not a single one of them help him when he is in need of money for medical assistance.  It made the person realize how the gambling industry helps the poor.

Additionally, I think he also need guide. I hope he doesn't develop the mentality that whenever he need help, the first place that will ring his mind is going to be gambling, it will only lead to loss and from there, it might lead to addiction which can have a negative side on him.

One just need to have an understanding on how gambling industry works and don't just stereotype the belief of the religious group. When it comes to gambling addiction prevention, a simple self-moderation and responsible gambling are the key.

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July 09, 2024, 10:11:18 PM
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In gambling people always wants to be triggered by something like say the positive effects they have gotten from it, it could be a huge winning or somehow close relative won lottery this could make them develop interest to start gambling. Seeing him change his entire mindset because he has a gotten a benefit from gambling due to the taxes they are remitting to the government and of a true this didn't happen there is no way he could have this mindset to start gambling I know more things to convince him is still coming and when he suddenly wins he interest would definitely increased over the time.
Yes, it could be that the victory that has been obtained by the gambler can arouse interest in the people around him, especially the victory he got in a large amount, this is very easy to tempt someone to enter the gambling environment. If there is someone who does not understand what gambling really is, then they will definitely want to follow in the footsteps of a gambler and when he has entered the world of gambling he only sees the winning side because the goal is that even though most of the casinos are frequent defeats and victory is very difficult to obtain.


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July 09, 2024, 10:26:58 PM
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In gambling people always wants to be triggered by something like say the positive effects they have gotten from it, it could be a huge winning or somehow close relative won lottery this could make them develop interest to start gambling. Seeing him change his entire mindset because he has a gotten a benefit from gambling due to the taxes they are remitting to the government and of a true this didn't happen there is no way he could have this mindset to start gambling I know more things to convince him is still coming and when he suddenly wins he interest would definitely increased over the time.

What made me change my perception about gambling was when I noticed gambling isn't as bad as so many individuals ar saying gambling is. Gambling as its bad side but it also has a good side and if you gamble with the mindset that you can lose, you'll not be fooling yourself in believing that you're going to win when you can see that you're already losing everything that you put into gambling. It is the way we gamble that determine if we're good to win or lose.

Money won from gambling can be used to do good and help others in need therefore gambling isn't bad just because it makes those addicted to it irresponsible. If you gamble without the mindset that you must not lose, you wouldn't be chasing affer your losses and making it a must to win everything. My perception changed when money won from gambling helped me when I had nothing in my bank.

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