cryptomus_com why isn't the Sig+Cam.. working properly? What is their purpose?

[Fiatless]

Has anyone sent a pm to the manager do draw their attention to this topic, incase he missed it?

Pm also sent to cryptomus so they know about this topic

Inexperience and lack of planning caused this whole problem. Even if you intend to run the campaign by yourself, there is a need to seek professional help. Sadly one of the most experienced campaign managers offered help without charge, but they turned it down. Cryptomus would have to clean this whole mess if they still want to continue with the campaign. Paying all qualified participants should be the starting point.

[DarkState]

There are 14 users get paid, 11 users eligible to get paid, 4 users not eligible to get paid, and one user submitted incorrect address.

List of accepted participants

Tipstar - Paid
DiMarxist - Paid
yazher - Paid
ITExpert - Unpaid (20 posts)
kuriboh - Unpaid (22 posts)
leonair - Paid
Belarge - Unpaid (24 posts)
Jateng - Unpaid (10 posts)
Bright0515 - Paid
Miles2006 - Paid
Parvati_j - Paid
Judith87403 - Paid
Tungbulu - Paid
Ojinga - Unpaid (30 posts)
Stablexcoin - Submitted incorrect address
Fiasem20 Paid
Winterfost - Unpaid (21 posts)
kingvirtus09 Paid
letteredhub - Unpaid (29 posts)
batang_bitcoin - Paid
Notalony - Unpaid (23 posts)
Road21Bitcoin - Unpaid (nil post)
Rao420 - Paid
JoyMarsha - Paid
ibuddy122505 - Unpaid (19 posts)
lven - Unpaid (10 posts)
fortunecrypto - Unpaid (26 posts)
DarkState - Unpaid (25 posts)
Just Say - Unpaid (20 posts)
Wonder Work - Unpaid (22 posts)

I've tagged him and here's the type 1 flag, you can support https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3321

I would like to clarify that I received the payment some time ago. But I was sending a personal message to cryptomus_com. I don't know why other members are not getting paid. For those who still haven't received the payment, I would suggest them to send a personal message to cryptomus_com. The campaign should run more smoothly. Anyway this was my first signature campaign. If I didn't get paid in the first campaign, I would have felt very bad. Hope to get smooth payment in next week.

[AB de Royse777]

Inexperience and lack of planning caused this whole problem. Even if you intend to run the campaign by yourself, there is a need to seek professional help. Sadly one of the most experienced campaign managers offered help without charge, but they turned it down. Cryptomus would have to clean this whole mess if they still want to continue with the campaign. Paying all qualified participants should be the starting point.

Maybe they are trying to learn the process and taking time to understand the environment. A signature campaign can go wrong for many reasons and become the topic of the time. We have seen it for Best_change but then we know Best_change was one of the long term campaign that served the community for over two and half years. I hope the team will learn quickly and rearrange themselves to build up a good reputation in the community by their own or by contacting a professional campaign manager.

~snip~

Let's move on. We don't need each others.

[Upgrade00]

I'm all for letting them explain, but I think a red tag in the meantime while we wait is appropriate given what participants have complaints about. The tag can be removed if all turns out to be a misunderstanding.

Right, there's nothing wrong in tagging once you see a complaint and confirm it to be legitimate based on your assessments, I jus personally like to give a window to allow the user to respond first. @cryptomus_com has logged in now, but is yet to make a reply, so I'll safely assume they've read the complaints.

How they manage the situation withing the next few days will be very important to the future of the campaign and the project on the forum.

[Su-asa]

I would like to clarify that I received the payment some time ago. But I was sending a personal message to cryptomus_com. I don't know why other members are not getting paid.

I also received the PM from the manager says he was forced to remove me without pay and immediately pmed him back that he should review my post history because I didn't violate any rule of the campaign and all my posts were on point. And I woke up to see that I was paid. But I don't know if I will be paid next week.

Since these two users have clarify that @cryptomus have paid them even when they received the sad message about them not receiving their weekly pay this week but when they PM cryptomus he reviewed their posts and pay them some minutes after. Maybe we should check if others have also received their pays but refused to say it here.
However, cryptomus is an old bitcointalker (July 8 2022) but wasn't active and yesterday make him/her two years old on Bitcointalk, as he wasn't active all those while probably he doesn't know how to manage a signature campaign, but if others will send him a PM he/she might be able to review/paid post of those that sent him PMs.
_{The dude is confused}

[examplens]

I think you're oversimplifying it here. If the rules are not clear and the participants did the work, then they are scamming users by just kicking them out without an explanation.

It is their right to have rules and not pay based on those rules, but if the rules are not posted how can they expect users to comply with them? There's interpreting a rule incorrectly and there's breaking a rule but in this case looks like there were no rules to comply with.

I remember the time when you ran many campaigns on the forum, you had very clear rules. Nevertheless, despite this, there were many complaints and those who were dissatisfied.

Tagged the company for now as I see the manager/owner has been online and hasn't replied yet. Willing to revise the tag if they explain themselves.

Pm also sent to cryptomus so they know about this topic

I'm almost certain it's a waste of time. Obviously, they don't know much about the forum and some basics of how things work here. They had received some useful advice before, but they somehow skipped over to see it.

[GeorgeJohn]

I think you're oversimplifying it here. If the rules are not clear and the participants did the work, then they are scamming users by just kicking them out without an explanation.

It is their right to have rules and not pay based on those rules, but if the rules are not posted how can they expect users to comply with them? There's interpreting a rule incorrectly and there's breaking a rule but in this case looks like there were no rules to comply with.

I remember the time when you ran many campaigns on the forum, you had very clear rules. Nevertheless, despite this, there were many complaints and those who were dissatisfied.

Tagged the company for now as I see the manager/owner has been online and hasn't replied yet. Willing to revise the tag if they explain themselves.

Pm also sent to cryptomus so they know about this topic

I'm almost certain it's a waste of time. Obviously, they don't know much about the forum and some basics of how things work here. They had received some useful advice before, but they somehow skipped over to see it.

Saying they don't know is understatement indecences that many replies has been bump their signature thread, and I believe that one or two person's has sent a personal message to the manager and they feel reluctant to respond to any of this information or to clarify itself...at least the manager supposed to clarify the doubts so that this will not look as if its a scam, but keeping silent will worsen everything, we the community need from the manager is clarification, is not that anybody is against them.

[Mate2237]

Saying they don't know is understatement indecences that many replies has been bump their signature thread, and I believe that one or two person's has sent a personal message to the manager and they feel reluctant to respond to any of this information or to clarify itself...at least the manager supposed to clarify the doubts so that this will not look as if its a scam, but keeping silent will worsen everything, we the community need from the manager is clarification, is not that anybody is against them.

He login two today. In the morning around 11 am and in the afternoon around 3pm, yet he didn't reply to any of the comments in the signature campaign thread or here in the complain thread. And he made comment in the forum last on the 29 of last month. Okay we can assume that he is not on telegram notification but his purpose right now is to promote his campaign so whenever he visits the forum he is expected to visit his signature campaign thread to see how things are and if there is any complain about the campaign of the website but the guy is just muted for all the complains from the announcement thread to the Signature Campaign thread.

Are we really sure the guy is here for promotion? Because a normal campaign manager would never behave like this. And if he continues like this then he will damage more harm to the website (exchange) and his campaign. And if thinhs are not really clear then it is good for the participants to withdraw themselves from the campaign because the motive of the project here is unknown. But the matter what time will tell.

[letteredhub]

Since these two users have clarify that @cryptomus have paid them even when they received the sad message about them not receiving their weekly pay this week but when they PM cryptomus he reviewed their posts and pay them some minutes after. Maybe we should check if others have also received their pays but refused to say it here.

Why will any member receive his payment and refuse to say it? Immediately I received his message on Monday I had to reply him asap for more clarification, still went on to drop same message on their campaign thread  and up till this time nothing of a reply.

How about the PM's and comments of other members to him and on the campaign thread, has he replied them? So I don't understand what you trying to imply exactly.

Not everything is all about the money, but let things be done in the right way to prevent setting a wrong precedent in the forum. His continuous silent  even after coming online twice today can literally scare and discourage potential customers in forum who had intention of using their platform to withdraw their intentions believing that they may not be attended to by representative should they encounter any issues or challenge that may arise when using the platform just as cryptomus-com is doing now

[nutildah]

Edit: How will the forum look at the fact that there is plagiarism in the manager’s story? You can check the creation dates of the site from which the post was copied. Is it necessary to block a manager for the fact that, at the development stage, the manager did not speak in his own words but copied them from another site? Previously, it sounded like a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg64306824#msg64306824

Good find. The plagiarism issue should lead to a ban, and its usually not a good sign when a project/company copy/pastes stuff from other projects. Although to be fair I did poke around online and didn't see any evidence that it is actually a scam.

[hugeblack]

Edit: How will the forum look at the fact that there is plagiarism in the manager’s story? You can check the creation dates of the site from which the post was copied. Is it necessary to block a manager for the fact that, at the development stage, the manager did not speak in his own words but copied them from another site? Previously, it sounded like a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg64306824#msg64306824

Good finding but since cryptomus_com represents a platform account and a quote it as "financial technology specialists say:," it will not be banned. This will be a good reason for those who want to give them a negative trust.

I also received the PM from the manager says he was forced to remove me without pay and immediately pmed him back that he should review my post history because I didn't violate any rule of the campaign and all my posts were on point. And I woke up to see that I was paid. But I don't know if I will be paid next week.

For this case, neutral trust is sufficient, especially since what is happening indicates unprofessionalism, not scam.
If they were scammers, they would launch a $300 campaign for 100 users and then delete 80 per week.
In general, there are many negative indicators, and if the team does not respond within the next 24 hours, I ill support trust flag.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Although to be fair I did poke around online and didn't see any evidence that it is actually a scam.

Yes, but probably you should have seen that the name of the site was simply copied from another one, which was previously designated as a scam.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/w2si0m/cryptomus_scam_going_live_again/?rdt=41850
https://stop-scam.net/cryptomus/
https://cryptorussia.ru/p2p-birzha-cryptomus-razoblachenie

I would like to hear the motivation for taking the name of a fraudulent site to promote a supposedly legal project. To be honest, it’s completely unclear to me.

The manager’s entire behavior already indicates that he is closed to communication. Should we expect something good? He wants publicity for his site but acts like an arrogant boss. There is simply no time to check posts that were paid for by those who have become displeasing to the manager. I'm sure there isn't much difference in quality. Didn't he look at post-event history when choosing candidates? I am inclined to believe that his goal was to regularly replace people.

And yes, this recently launched website should not be compared with a large aggregator like BestChange.

[Just Say]

Tipstar - Paid
DiMarxist - Paid
yazher - Paid
ITExpert - Unpaid (20 posts)
kuriboh - Unpaid (22 posts)
leonair - Paid
Belarge - Unpaid (24 posts)
Jateng - Unpaid (10 posts)
Bright0515 - Paid
Miles2006 - Paid
Parvati_j - Paid
Judith87403 - Paid
Tungbulu - Paid
Ojinga - Unpaid (30 posts)
Stablexcoin - Submitted incorrect address
Fiasem20 Paid
Winterfost - Unpaid (21 posts)
kingvirtus09 Paid
letteredhub - Unpaid (29 posts)
batang_bitcoin - Paid
Notalony - Unpaid (23 posts)
Road21Bitcoin - Unpaid (nil post)
Rao420 - Paid
JoyMarsha - Paid
ibuddy122505 - Unpaid (19 posts)
lven - Unpaid (10 posts)
fortunecrypto - Unpaid (26 posts)
DarkState - Unpaid (25 posts)
Just Say - Unpaid (20 posts)
Wonder Work - Unpaid (22 posts)

I worked honestly in this campaign from the beginning but still they didn't pay me where many people got paid. I PM that signature campaign manager after not getting payment.


Even asked him why I was not paid did I do something wrong. But I did not get any response from him on the day I PMed him. He replied to me today and said the payment was made as he said I checked my wallet and found that he paid. He apologized for the late payment. Maybe he learned from his mistake and Maybe paid everyone today.



I am enjoying my first payment.

[Tungbulu]

It appears this whole fuzz may just turn out to be a huge misconception/misunderstanding.
As we all know, This campaign happens to be the very first campaign to be managed by @cryptomus_com, we all know that managing a campaign isn't something anyone can do perfectly well, errors could occur along the way, which is very understandable.

If a participants was not paid, he should've first sent the CM a PM and if there's no response after a day or two, then he/she may go ahead to take the necessary steps.

I'm not saying it's wrong for the OP to bring up the topic and ask why he wasn't paid, all I'm saying is that, he should've first sent a PM to the CM which is the right thing to do and then wait for at least 24 to 48 hrs and if there's still no response, then he can raise an issue.

[Despairo]

I would like to clarify that I received the payment some time ago.

I am enjoying my first payment.

Thanks for the heads up, I've updated the list.

After a quick check, the other still not get paid, he can use "late payment" excuse to other users, but he can't use that excuse to fortunecrypto since he boldly say posting in gambling board violating the campaign rules.

So, I really want to see his explanation about this case.

However, now the situation is not clear... whether the campaign continues or not and what topic or board that must be avoided, but I'm sure the current participants will avoid to post about gambling.

[letteredhub]

Tipstar - Paid
DiMarxist - Paid
yazher - Paid
ITExpert - Unpaid (20 posts)
kuriboh - Unpaid (22 posts)
leonair - Paid
Belarge - Unpaid (24 posts)
Jateng - Unpaid (10 posts)
Bright0515 - Paid
Miles2006 - Paid
Parvati_j - Paid
Judith87403 - Paid
Tungbulu - Paid
Ojinga - Unpaid (30 posts)
Stablexcoin - Submitted incorrect address
Fiasem20 Paid
Winterfost - Unpaid (21 posts)
kingvirtus09 Paid
letteredhub - Unpaid (29 posts)
batang_bitcoin - Paid
Notalony - Unpaid (23 posts)
Road21Bitcoin - Unpaid (nil post)
Rao420 - Paid
JoyMarsha - Paid
ibuddy122505 - Unpaid (19 posts)
lven - Unpaid (10 posts)
fortunecrypto - Unpaid (26 posts)
DarkState - Unpaid (25 posts)
Just Say - Unpaid (20 posts)
Wonder Work - Unpaid (22 posts)

I worked honestly in this campaign from the beginning but still they didn't pay me where many people got paid. I PM that signature campaign manager after not getting payment.


Even asked him why I was not paid did I do something wrong. But I did not get any response from him on the day I PMed him. He replied to me today and said the payment was made as he said I checked my wallet and found that he paid. He apologized for the late payment. Maybe he learned from his mistake and Maybe paid everyone today.

Am happy to know you've been paid. I haven't gotten any response from his over 24hrs since I PMed him, and also haven't received any pay till now despite making 29 posts as clearly noted by Despairo.

It appears this whole fuzz may just turn out to be a huge misconception/misunderstanding.
As we all know, This campaign happens to be the very first campaign to be managed by @cryptomus_com, we all know that managing a campaign isn't something anyone can do perfectly well, errors could occur along the way, which is very understandable.

If a participants was not paid, he should've first sent the CM a PM and if there's no response after a day or two, then he/she may go ahead to take the necessary steps.

I'm not saying it's wrong for the OP to bring up the topic and ask why he wasn't paid, all I'm saying is that, he should've first sent a PM to the CM which is the right thing to do and then wait for at least 24 to 48 hrs and if there's still no response, then he can raise an issue.

Have you actually been following this thread at all or you're just unconcerned about other participants in the campaign not being paid since you did received your own pay? Are you aware of how many PM's has been sent to the manager without a single reply.  I messaged him on July 8, 2024, at 7:222:20 pm. So far not a word have I received or my payment made to me. I guess you're just protective of the campaign continuing instead of demanding that they do things correctly for the sake of their reputation in the forum.

[Mate2237]

It appears this whole fuzz may just turn out to be a huge misconception/misunderstanding.
As we all know, This campaign happens to be the very first campaign to be managed by @cryptomus_com, we all know that managing a campaign isn't something anyone can do perfectly well, errors could occur along the way, which is very understandable.

If a participants was not paid, he should've first sent the CM a PM and if there's no response after a day or two, then he/she may go ahead to take the necessary steps.

I'm not saying it's wrong for the OP to bring up the topic and ask why he wasn't paid, all I'm saying is that, he should've first sent a PM to the CM which is the right thing to do and then wait for at least 24 to 48 hrs and if there's still no response, then he can raise an issue.

Don't worry your body will tell you when you receive negative tag by supporting wrong doing. When something is not right so w or not properly done and people are trying to make things right in the forum you are here talking the opposite. People were advising the cm to do well from the beginning. Okay it was good and fine if he likes to run the campaign by himself but he has to hire professional signature creators and avatar designer and ask questions for more direction yet he refused to take anyone advise.

Now if I may ask you do you even know what you promoting? Which kind of exchange that has no clear explanation. You are very greedy person because you are only interested in the campaign money and not the reputation of the company. People are concerned with the company's reputation and you are talking about next week will have a smooth payment. Can you tell the forum what those participants did for him to remove them without payment? When someone did something wrong say the truth. Yesterday he came online and he didn't respond to any of the comments. I know very well you are an alt account. Jr. Member account can't really much about the forum like the way you do. You are welcome to reputation board. Digging will start.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I know very well you are an alt account. Jr. Member account can't really much about the forum like the way you do. You are welcome to reputation board.

You noticed correctly. And he already feels it, since he and several of his “friends” recently deleted a lot of their posts. But the forum remembers and sees everything, unfortunately for some.

[Su-asa]

Since these two users have clarify that @cryptomus have paid them even when they received the sad message about them not receiving their weekly pay this week but when they PM cryptomus he reviewed their posts and pay them some minutes after. Maybe we should check if others have also received their pays but refused to say it here.

Why will any member receive his payment and refuse to say it? Immediately I received his message on Monday I had to reply him asap for more clarification, still went on to drop same message on their campaign thread  and up till this time nothing of a reply.

How about the PM's and comments of other members to him and on the campaign thread, has he replied them? So I don't understand what you trying to imply exactly.

Not everything is all about the money, but let things be done in the right way to prevent setting a wrong precedent in the forum. His continuous silent  even after coming online twice today can literally scare and discourage potential customers in forum who had intention of using their platform to withdraw their intentions believing that they may not be attended to by representative should they encounter any issues or challenge that may arise when using the platform just as cryptomus-com is doing now

However everything that's hidden about cryptomus has been revealed, so we can conclude that the cryptomus is not 100% reputable and we should also be careful the kind of deals we do on cryptomus website. Since the OP has Plagiarized months back it's shows that cryptomus is not safe because the informations he/she provided are not legit.

Let's talk about payments, misconceptions made us think differently but what I was trying to say earlier was that some cryptomus participants that did not receiving their payments might have pm him and probably he will review them and pay some/few but some of them will not come to this thread and say it. No body is hiding their payment from anyone because we can all check the transmissions from mempool. Moreover many campaign participants don't make comments that they have received their payments. Although this guy have received his pay, so there might be others, but let's keep hoping that they all receive their pay and announce it.

Even asked him why I was not paid did I do something wrong. But I did not get any response from him on the day I PMed him. He replied to me today and said the payment was made as he said I checked my wallet and found that he paid. He apologized for the late payment. Maybe he learned from his mistake and Maybe paid everyone today.

I am not supporting cryptomus either but I am surprised how he managed to pay @Just say today even after he received negative tags yesterday. Some people will not pay after receiving a negative tag (not even 1 tag)

[DiMarxist]

Cryptomus_com campaign manager is online now. And there is no way he is not seeing all these things. And if he didn't reply to any of these quarries then it is a deliberate act and the forum should also take a drastic act. Responding to complains is one of the most important thing in the forum.