Why poor people always have more kids?

[AlphaBoy]

Sub-saharan Africa population is 1.3 billion
India population is 1.4 billion
Pakistan population is 261 million
Bangladesh population is 165 million

more than 37.5% of earth's population live in places so poor to the point of famine or to the point of no sanitation or both.
literally one of each three people on this earth live in places and conditions that barely suite animals and yet this 1/3 still have dozen of children.
why dose poor people always have 5x time the children of wealthy people?
what make Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

this question have always bugged me, why they do this?!
is it stupidity or they simply don't care about there own children to the point of willing to bringing them to a life of suffer for 50 years just so they can have 5 second pleasure?
do there brains cannot comprehend future or something? are they that stupid?
or it's a case of self-loathing as they want there descended to suffer just like them, or perhaps it is Narcissism?
I really can't figure out the answer for this!
every poor man I know has 5-6 kids, also every single rich person I know have 2-3 kids.

and this isn't a new phenomenon or something no that was going for at least thousand of year so why is that?
what make those people do this?!

[Don Pedro Dinero]

this question have always bugged me, why they do this?!
is it stupidity or they simply don't care about there own children to the point of willing to bringing them to a life of suffer for 50 years just so they can have 5 second pleasure?
do there brains cannot comprehend future or something? are they that stupid?

You are stupid.

If you are going to talk about poor people, wash your mouth before opening it.

For your information, what poor people do is no different from what is observed in nature. A plant or tree that goes through more deprivation produces more offspring, it's the way it tries to pass on its genes to the next generation. For example, a lemon tree that has suffered from a lack of water throughout the year will produce many more seeds than a lemon tree that has had a constant flow of water, with drip irrigation, for example.

But you think you are so clever with your mathematics and you can't see this basic fact.

[Helena Yu]

There's quotes "More child, many fortunes".

But, it was correct before 2000's, now having many child is really a disastrous because life getting hard.

Yeah you're correct, I don't understand why majority of poor people choose to make many babies, although we can't really blame them since they think happiness doesn't come from money, it's come from religion and family interaction.

[AlphaBoy]

this question have always bugged me, why they do this?!
is it stupidity or they simply don't care about there own children to the point of willing to bringing them to a life of suffer for 50 years just so they can have 5 second pleasure?
do there brains cannot comprehend future or something? are they that stupid?

You are stupid.

If you are going to talk about poor people, wash your mouth before opening it.

For your information, what poor people do is no different from what is observed in nature. A plant or tree that goes through more deprivation produces more offspring, it's the way it tries to pass on its genes to the next generation. For example, a lemon tree that has suffered from a lack of water throughout the year will produce many more seeds than a lemon tree that has had a constant flow of water, with drip irrigation, for example.

But you think you are so clever with your mathematics and you can't see this basic fact.

First of all I am poor, and from a 3rd world as well.
we aren't plant pro, deprivation of basics to us often mean producing more crimes and drug addicted useless junkies.
the surviving mechanism of humans is forcing them to create more children if they sense the feeling of Extinction or the death of there bloodline, but that only when the danger is physical, only when there is a war.
when you live in a famine and barely eat your self then you should never have more than one child, two as max.
but having more than two means that you are stupid and give a great hint why you have a famine or your country is hell hole.
my family been poor for at least 4 generations and a wise man once told me that just because you're poor doesn't mean you have to be dirty, you can be poor and clean and you can also be poor and healthy.
and I say that there is no reason to be poor and self-loathing narcissist, if you can't live in high standers then simply don't have kids or have one or two, not a dozen.
notice how poor countries don't create anything at all, they rarely invent new things or having an intelligent people who create new things and even when they have you gonna see those intelligent people leaving these countries at the first chance they got, notice how poor countries dose not produce anything aside form physical work, notice how China rising as super power have a strong synchronization with the population drop.
that's my point.

There's quotes "More child, many fortunes".

But, it was correct before 2000's, now having many child is really a disastrous because life getting hard.

Yeah you're correct, I don't understand why majority of poor people choose to make many babies, although we can't really blame them since they think happiness doesn't come from money, it's come from religion and family interaction.

More children mean more responsibility and more mouths to feed, having more kids than your ability to feed or taking care of them means that you are a sub-human as you had them just because you wanted the 5 second pleasure.
and as for "religion" those people have kids because they are certain that there god will not abandon them, once they discover how stupid they are they won't admit there fault instead they will ask others to take responsibility for what they have done, they will ask for free stuff from the government and from hard working people who take responsibility for their actions.
you know what I noticed? I noticed that when you take responsibility for there action they will never learn, they will do the same mistake and there children will also do the same mistake as apple don't fall far from the tree and the cycle continue for ever.
If I ever happened to be a president for some country then I will create a support system that give each citizen 96 monthly paid check, those check can cashed once a month if the person don't work or have some injures that prevent him from working, that 8 years of help.
then I will ban all other help including charity of all kinds, if 8 years of help isn't enough for them then let them die of hunger.
giving them free education and health care and benefit meaning that you encourage them not to have any responsibility towards there actions.

[Rockstarguy]

why dose poor people always have 5x time the children of wealthy people?
what make Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

The reason in Africa region most people give birth to many children is  because they lack the knowledge of birth control, in most Africa countries they do not encourage people to give birth to the number of kids they can afford to take care of. One of the things that can reduce the number of population is if the government encourages parents to have the understanding of birth control, this will really help in decreasing the population in a short time.
In developed world that population is very low they are able to control their population because birth control is something everyone is aware of and know how to apply it.

[BADecker]

Why poor people always have more kids?


When you don't spend time making money, what else is there to do that is more fun than making kids?

[legiteum]

Because women in these countries don't have access to birth control, and/or it is banned in their country.

If you simply look at the data and the evidence, you will see that women usually do not voluntarily have a lot of children, as a tendency. High numbers of children almost always coincide with women who are essentially forced to become pregnant and force to carry the pregnancy to term, either through the law, their religion, or tribal traditions--or any combination therein.

Women who are given a choice almost never have more children than they can afford. The solution is to give women choices.

[Hispo]

I am not even sure why you should bother to ask here, by the way, I think there are many scientific studies out there on the internet about this matter and they gets to almost the same conclusions.
Women in under-developed countries do not have access to both sexual education nor birth control pills, so it is more likely for them to have an unwanted pregnancy. Also, having more children in a underdeveloped country can be helpful to face hardships, specially in the children grow up to become healthy men, so they can contribute to society and bring back some some money and food to sustain the household. There is a good reason in under-developed countries family members live close to one another, you know. So they can band together to survive.

Not even mention the social pressure many women have to build a family at certain age...

[be.open]

what make those people do this?!

In poor countries, more people live in subsistence farming and the overall economy is predominantly agrarian. In such conditions, every child in the family is an additional assistant and an extra pair of working hands from childhood. That is, many children here are not a burden, but a family asset.

As the country develops, more people live in cities and a child turns from a family asset into an expensive and long-term project, so in developed countries it is normal to have one, maximum two children in a family.

[AlphaBoy]

why dose poor people always have 5x time the children of wealthy people?
what make Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

The reason in Africa region most people give birth to many children is  because they lack the knowledge of birth control, in most Africa countries they do not encourage people to give birth to the number of kids they can afford to take care of. One of the things that can reduce the number of population is if the government encourages parents to have the understanding of birth control, this will really help in decreasing the population in a short time.
In developed world that population is very low they are able to control their population because birth control is something everyone is aware of and know how to apply it.

in 1600 the population was less than 100 million and they never had any famine.
so it's not about birth control

Why poor people always have more kids?


When you don't spend time making money, what else is there to do that is more fun than making kids?

that's a thought, you think if poor people get access to game set they will stop this?

Because women in these countries don't have access to birth control, and/or it is banned in their country.

If you simply look at the data and the evidence, you will see that women usually do not voluntarily have a lot of children, as a tendency. High numbers of children almost always coincide with women who are essentially forced to become pregnant and force to carry the pregnancy to term, either through the law, their religion, or tribal traditions--or any combination therein.

Women who are given a choice almost never have more children than they can afford. The solution is to give women choices.

No, the solution is what China did to there people.
in the 1600 African population was less than 100 million and till 1900 the entire Indian raj (India Pakistan bangladesh maynamer) didn't pass 250 million and today they make up 25% of earth's population.
oh and women didn't have a choice back then.

I am not even sure why you should bother to ask here, by the way, I think there are many scientific studies out there on the internet about this matter and they gets to almost the same conclusions.
Women in under-developed countries do not have access to both sexual education nor birth control pills, so it is more likely for them to have an unwanted pregnancy. Also, having more children in a underdeveloped country can be helpful to face hardships, specially in the children grow up to become healthy men, so they can contribute to society and bring back some some money and food to sustain the household. There is a good reason in under-developed countries family members live close to one another, you know. So they can band together to survive.

Not even mention the social pressure many women have to build a family at certain age...

Just want it to ask here since all of these topic on the internet didn't convince me
See my replay to legiteum

what make those people do this?!

In poor countries, more people live in subsistence farming and the overall economy is predominantly agrarian. In such conditions, every child in the family is an additional assistant and an extra pair of working hands from childhood. That is, many children here are not a burden, but a family asset.

As the country develops, more people live in cities and a child turns from a family asset into an expensive and long-term project, so in developed countries it is normal to have one, maximum two children in a family.

so Africans have famine even tho they farm?
most of the humanitarian aid go the desert, where they can't farm.

also every single minute 3 Indian farmers commit suicide  do to there life conditions, by the time 4320 every day so it's not about the farming,

[be.open]

what make those people do this?!

In poor countries, more people live in subsistence farming and the overall economy is predominantly agrarian. In such conditions, every child in the family is an additional assistant and an extra pair of working hands from childhood. That is, many children here are not a burden, but a family asset.

As the country develops, more people live in cities and a child turns from a family asset into an expensive and long-term project, so in developed countries it is normal to have one, maximum two children in a family.

so Africans have famine even tho they farm?
most of the humanitarian aid go the desert, where they can't farm.

also every single minute 3 Indian farmers commit suicide  do to there life conditions, by the time 4320 every day so it's not about the farming,

The point is precisely in agriculture, or more precisely in the agrarian mentality of people living in rapidly growing countries. Even when such people migrate en masse to a more developed country, they take their agrarian mentality with them.

ps Starving Africans are more of a meme. Not in the sense that they do not exist, but in the sense that humanitarian aid perpetuates in them the syndrome of learned helplessness, and then they can no longer live independently without hope of humanitarian aid.

[DeathAngel]

Limited access to education, healthcare, cultural beliefs, economic pressures & lack of family planning awareness (contraception) contribute to higher birth rates among the poor.

[Helena Yu]

and as for "religion" those people have kids because they are certain that there god will not abandon them, once they discover how stupid they are they won't admit there fault instead they will ask others to take responsibility for what they have done, they will ask for free stuff from the government and from hard working people who take responsibility for their actions.
you know what I noticed? I noticed that when you take responsibility for there action they will never learn, they will do the same mistake and there children will also do the same mistake as apple don't fall far from the tree and the cycle continue for ever.

Yep, I believe not all people can be in relationship, but the pressure from society makes them force themselves to have a relationship and giving a birth. That's why these poor people will not learn since they're childish adults aka grown up people but act like children and don't have a mentality to take responsibility.

Having a family isn't the only way to find happiness, happiness starts from yourself. You live alone, you die alone.

[AlphaBoy]

ps Starving Africans are more of a meme. Not in the sense that they do not exist, but in the sense that humanitarian aid perpetuates in them the syndrome of learned helplessness, and then they can no longer live independently without hope of humanitarian aid.

that's the point that can apply on any nation that has more people than it can handle, keep giving them until they think it's there god giving right to get free stuff from you or the government or anyone really.

Limited access to education, healthcare, cultural beliefs, economic pressures & lack of family planning awareness (contraception) contribute to higher birth rates among the poor.

"economic pressures"
so if I am poor and miserable and barely feed myself I should have 10 kids so the pressures get lighting?
it's basically stupidity and dependency, I just noticed that all poor are religious, they simply believe there god will not abandon them and they will have as many kids as they want and then they will ask everyone else to take responsibility for there actions.

and as for "religion" those people have kids because they are certain that there god will not abandon them, once they discover how stupid they are they won't admit there fault instead they will ask others to take responsibility for what they have done, they will ask for free stuff from the government and from hard working people who take responsibility for their actions.
you know what I noticed? I noticed that when you take responsibility for there action they will never learn, they will do the same mistake and there children will also do the same mistake as apple don't fall far from the tree and the cycle continue for ever.

Yep, I believe not all people can be in relationship, but the pressure from society makes them force themselves to have a relationship and giving a birth. That's why these poor people will not learn since they're childish adults aka grown up people but act like children and don't have a mentality to take responsibility.

Having a family isn't the only way to find happiness, happiness starts from yourself. You live alone, you die alone.

Having a family is the way to happens once you fail to achieve what you were desire the most and that's for smart and average people, not for stupid people.
and I don't think they have family because the pressure of society I think they have it because they want to have sex and clean house.
some time I wish Eugenics get applied in my country even tho I know that they will probably Sterilize me the first lol

[russianmother]

Because they are uneducated.

[Gozie51]

every poor man I know has 5-6 kids, also every single rich person I know have 2-3 kids.

I think this colouration is changing and I have heard more people, people of less classes in the society discuss the need to bear few children and the singles too are having change of mind. To prove that the numbers are beginning to reduce, if you go to African wedding especially that of Nigeria, during the reception when the MC ask the celebrants how many children they would like to have, they usually say 2 to 4 children especially 3/4 children and not up to 5 except on rare occasions where they would say the 5th may be the one of " mistake ".

So I think education is what has caused this paradigm shift. More lower class people are getting educated lately and they are being knowledgeable and also trying to lessen the burden of training plenty children to fewer children and having comfort and living a comfortable live for themselves and children. All of those where never in the picture in the past as they never matter in the scheme of things in the old days. There is shift in the way things are done now in terms of family live.

[Albarq]

From the conclusion, poor people have lots of children because they don't plan their births and don't have much money to buy medication to delay pregnancy, and it's clear that it's very difficult for them to eat, let alone think about other things, and indeed it's a difficult process at the moment to prevent it.

[MusaMohamed]

There's quotes "More child, many fortunes".

But, it was correct before 2000's, now having many child is really a disastrous because life getting hard.

I beg to differ and I want to say this thinking is not correct forever, not only before or after 2000s.

If you are poor, you and your family are more probably have bad financial status that makes it's harder to nurture your children and more troubles to provide them good chance in education.

Nurturing children is more easily than educating them but even the easier part, nurturing children is already problem with poor family. If they care about their children, future of children, they will not let their sexual demand to affect their children future and will self-limit total children they want to have. There are many ways for family planning and parents only need to have right attitude to do that properly.

[Hewlet]

You asked a very reasonable question and honestly, it's what has become a norm that most poor people have a greater number of children than their richer counterparts but I must add that the approach you used in making your analysis is quite shallow and not fact-based.

what makes Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

Even though most African countries are underdeveloped and are mostly looked at on the global stage as being dominated by poverty-stricken families, in reality, that's far from what's actually the case. As a core African man who has lived both in the village part of my country and the town, I can boldly say that it's not true that we've witnessed anything close to feminine except in war zones where people can't comfortably go out to carry out their daily hustle.

The mentality of most poor people in the locality is that with more children, you have more hands that can help you on your farm, and that can also help you when you're old and that's the reason why they normally have more children compared to the richer folks.

Religion also plays its own role in this matter cause for some religions, you can marry as many wives as you find comfortable with, and for each of the wives you've married, they will expect to have a child for you and by so doing, you find out that some men might get married to 6 wives and have at least 3 kids from each of them. For this scenario, you can't say it's about wealth cause most of the people who marry too many wives are mostly traditional people who aren't rich in Their context.

do there brains cannot comprehend the future or something? are they that stupid?

Individuals' projection of the future varies and while some will dime it fit that they will only give birth to children they can feed and take care of their education, others might term it a thing of pride that they have so many children who will grow up to take care of them in the future.

Again another factor that even plays a greater role could be education and for most cases, educated people tend to have a lesser number of children than uneducated ones due to their general perception of a child's training.

There are more than a thousand and one reasons why people decide to have more children and poverty is just one of them.

[Dunamisx]

Both the rich and the poor do give birth to children and this have to do with the desirability of individuals on what they wanted, if we can afford to take good care of having many children, then i dont see anything bad in doing that, but some have said it's more common for the poor people to give birth to many children than the rich one, though this is more of a mentality basis, everyone can have as much as many children they wanted.