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July 12, 2024, 04:22:49 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty
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July 12, 2024, 04:30:59 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty

Lol! You need to study more about world politics.

The interest rate of federal reserve has very little or no impact on the war funding. Rather when other countries go into war, America makes the most amount of money out of it. It is because America supplies war machineries to majority of the other countries.

If the interest rate stays high, that wouldn't impact there arms export business. Rather every war gives America and opportunity to bridge the gap of their fiscal deficit.

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July 12, 2024, 05:06:18 PM
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One can only hope; but that's not how things work.

We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
Apart from what @avikz said about how they make money from wars, what we see is that even when they run out of funds they cut the funding to other parts of the society (eg. the green energy sector, the healthcare system, the retirement funds, etc.) and redirect those funds into their warmachine.

That's not to mention that keeping rates high has other reasons. One of the main ones is to keep the dollar artificially strong while trying to desperately keep the inflation low.

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July 12, 2024, 05:37:44 PM
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I don’t think interest rates have anything to do with peace talks. We still have multiple wars going on in the world right now but hopefully the Republicans win the US election because I think Trump has a far better chahce of helping with successful peace talks than Biden.

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July 12, 2024, 06:28:36 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty
Wow, maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong but all I can write is you are absolutely wrong dude! What is money? The United States have enough resources to root a war and that's what we are seeing in the Ukraine Russia war now. The United States government would always complain that there is no money to do some certain things but there is always money to foot the bills of Ukraine without any much contemplating. We need to understand that in time of war, the government is always strategizing on ways to import weapons from there alliance to continue the bills that is needed to be in war.

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July 12, 2024, 06:58:36 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty

There’s no cohesion between wars and interest rates. War are seen as tools of enrichment, it might not be in that form directly but they’re no war without interest of some people in them. So the interest rate is just for the economy and the war has nothing to do with that. Wars will be funded in all circumstance as long as the end goal of it will be achieved. They’re not peculiar to each other so don’t see it in that aspect.

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July 12, 2024, 08:10:58 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty

Wars are a good means of stimulating the US economy since the majority of the funding is used to finance weapons, training, and intelligence. Most of these weapons are produced by US companies which means these companies and workers benefit from these financial aids. The war also helps the US to dispose of some of its obsolete weapons. It is expensive and not environmentally friendly to destroy some military equipment but they are shifted to Ukraine without restrictions. It is also possible that there might be a secret agreement between the US and Ukraine on control of some mineral resources if they become victorious. The bottom line is that the US is benefiting from the war and will not want it to end without achieving its objectives.

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July 12, 2024, 09:03:35 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty

Wars are a good means of stimulating the US economy since the majority of the funding is used to finance weapons, training, and intelligence. Most of these weapons are produced by US companies which means these companies and workers benefit from these financial aids. The war also helps the US to dispose of some of its obsolete weapons. It is expensive and not environmentally friendly to destroy some military equipment but they are shifted to Ukraine without restrictions. It is also possible that there might be a secret agreement between the US and Ukraine on control of some mineral resources if they become victorious. The bottom line is that the US is benefiting from the war and will not want it to end without achieving its objectives.
Some Americans and Ukrainians will want to debate with you against this but they are forgetting that the world it's a global village there are certain matters that ain't secret anymore as it were. It is what it is. With the more advancement of technological weaponry the outdated need to send off and it has to be in a warzone area so with each existing war they get the benefits through the supplies. It's business as usual Grin, nothing close to or related to interest rate factor about all the wars in the Middle East, Ukraine -Russia, Isreali-Hamas.

 Wars usually ends when there exist no more benefactor either as a frontline participant to the war or passive.
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July 12, 2024, 09:14:30 PM
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The hope that geopolitical issues will be resolved quickly without war is expected by many, but we cannot generalize everything including interest rates because it will not have a big impact on the war and may not even have an impact at all.

It is undeniable that until now the economy for America is still one of the benchmarks for almost every country but on the other hand we realize that it is precisely with the existence of war that America benefits because as @avikz said that they are a country that can take advantage of those in conflict for the supply of weapons that they always do.
So in this case we can't expect much about interest rates going up to contain the war because in the end even though it is not expected, the war will continue to occur for several countries that are in conflict.

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July 12, 2024, 09:29:17 PM
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We know war need money a lot money If Fed cant lower rates then they cant fund Wars.
So war plans might be canceled we might go higher for longer and no rate cuts.
We might not get war it's good but we will have more poverty

You are looking at this war the wrong way around. Putin started this war and it will lead him to the coffin. Ukraine is an innocent country that is defending itself from a much larger, but luckily much more dimwitted aggressor. Authoritarian governments will never win these wars in the long term. Putin thought he would steam roll over Ukraine but their fury has fought back. They have retaken large amounts of land that Russia stole and they will eventually retake every inch. Russia is much larger in size and population numbers, but Putin has shown that he doesn't care for the individual soldier and will lose the battle of attrition, especially since all hit military hardware is being destroyed very cheaply. Russia was much more powerful before this ill fated war began and it will end up much weaker, with less influence, when it ends.

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July 12, 2024, 11:57:07 PM
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Instability leads to wars generally, if the FED loses control of the situation then its true this might lead to less space for issuance of debt and leeway on debt costs.   What I would expect is a failed economy precedes a war a bit like the run up to ww2 led to weakness that allowed far extreme politics to thrive.  

Most weakened countries have the appearance of what turns out to be a false strong leader, who is destructive and violent in ruling not just their own country but threatening those on the borders leading to wars usually.  Its not the high rates are bad exactly, they are an attempt to regain control but they often occur and indicate some failure ongoing.

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they already sacrifice the lives of ukrainians. even the ladies were already conscripted and dies by the time they are deployed in the war.

they could stop to the war and agrees to the peace agreements of putin since the man has all the cards. but the war mongers don't care about that. they are up to sacrifice more ukrainians. they just give bilions to Volodimyr 'Putin' and europe also promised 3 billion a year. so war goes on regardless of rate hike cut or not.

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Today at 07:03:31 AM
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What the fuck is going on with these stupid threads where the OP either writes something barely coherent or writes a post that's insubstantial and isn't enough to spark up a real conversation?

I know OP isn't even going to read what I just wrote, so I'm not even going to bother saying something silly like "no offense".

Can the mods please lock this thread?  OP's post is just nonsense and it deserves being reported, which is precisely what I'm going to do.

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Today at 08:31:19 AM
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Wars do need money, but even if money is lacking, a war might still be waged sometimes out of desperation or even to boost the economy by ramping up production, creating jobs and all that stuff.
The USA is not the biggest war-starter these days. In case of my country, which is Ukraine, we literally just got invaded by Russia which believes that our country is fake and its territories and heritage belong to Russia. So the US is not funding our war; it's helping us survive. If the US and other allies stopped, we'd still try to defend ourselves, but that would probably become a guerilla war. Meanwhile, Russia also doesn't really believe in independence of other countries like Estonia, Moldova, Georgia, etc. So without being busy in Ukraine, it would just go on to conquer other countries, and the wars would actually multiply because of that.

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Today at 11:28:30 AM
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they already sacrifice the lives of ukrainians. even the ladies were already conscripted and dies by the time they are deployed in the war.

they could stop to the war and agrees to the peace agreements of putin since the man has all the cards. but the war mongers don't care about that. they are up to sacrifice more ukrainians. they just give bilions to Volodimyr 'Putin' and europe also promised 3 billion a year. so war goes on regardless of rate hike cut or not.

Putin has not yet offered Ukraine a peace agreement; in fact, he has offered Ukraine partial surrender. Thus, in the recent plan of Putin’s “peace proposals” there was a demand for Ukraine to withdraw its troops from four regions of Ukraine - Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye. That is, Putin wants Ukraine to leave a significant part of its territory, which has not even been occupied by Russian invaders. This is in addition to the fact that Russia has occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Krvm since 2014. Putin also demanded a significant reduction in the Ukrainian army and military equipment, refusal to join NATO, the lifting of sanctions from Russia and many other “peace proposals” aimed at eventually capturing the remaining territory of Ukraine. Of course, Ukraine and the West sent Putin away with his “peace proposals.”

Ukraine's counter-proposal is the complete withdrawal of the Russian occupation army from the territory of Ukraine as a prerequisite for peace negotiations.

Of course, on the Ukrainian side, thousands of Ukrainian women are now fighting at the front. In almost all wars, in difficult situations, women, along with men, stood up to defend their country. Nowadays there is also the appearance of women in the assault detachments of the Russian army, who are being released from prison to participate in this war, since the number of men in Russian prisons is already running out. The number of male volunteers who would agree to die in Ukraine for big money is also running out. Therefore, one-time payments when concluding a contract in Russia have already been raised from 200 thousand rubles to 1.2 million rubles and higher, depending on the region.

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