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July 17, 2024, 01:28:33 PM
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These addictions are often seen in rich people only. A poor or middle-class guy gambles only to test his luck. He can’t afford to be addicted to gambling. So yes, as a middle-class guy, I have never been addicted to gambling. Whenever I have some extra money, I just do sports betting by taking minimal risk. If you don’t have funds to gamble, how will you become addicted? If anyhow these addicts are stopped supplying funds, then I am sure their gambling habit will soon decrease.
It's true that addiction is often caused when a person gambles excessively and to gamble overly, one needs enough funds. A person without enough money wouldn't be able to do that. Still, I would say that I have seen people having no money being addicted to gambling, I have seen them taking loans and borrowing money from others only to gamble with it, some would do the worst, they might get to an extent where they will be ready to do crimes only to get some money.

So, addiction is not only limited to rich people and people from middle or lower classes can also get addicted to gambling, and this addiction is mainly caused by the wins they might get. If a middle-class guy manages to win something good with a small amount, they would want to experience that again, and for that, they will gamble again, and if they continue doing that, they will become addicted to it.

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July 17, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
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These addictions are often seen in rich people only. A poor or middle-class guy gambles only to test his luck. He can’t afford to be addicted to gambling.
I don't think this is correct, be it rich, middle-class or poor, one can be addicted to gambling or any kind of addiction. Even people who do not have so much money either sell their properties, borrow or steal to gamble when they suffer from gambling addiction. The addiction basically has to do with lack of control in gambling, and when an individual lacks control in anything they do, they can go to any extent to make sure they do it, so not only rich people suffer from this.

Everyone is vulnerable to gambling, as per my experience going into landbased casinos, you will see different kind of individuals, you can see them. Rich, being the whales and you can see how big their bet is, lets say for baccarat games. And then middle-class with just a couple hundred and then the poor one, with minimum bet or playing in slot machine with that minimum but hoping that they can win big in the end.

So yeah, it could be our choice, but once we get into gambling, it's going to be a vicious cycle and it's hard to stop regardless of your social status in the continue and in the end,  we all go through being addicted, rich or poor.

And I have this theory that the poor individuals might be prone more before they wanted that one win that will chance their lives.

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July 17, 2024, 05:05:10 PM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.

Sometimes to become an addict is never a choice because circumstances can make someone do things they never imagine to do because if you believe that addiction is a choice do you think that somebody with his complete sense will possibly choose to become an addict in gambling, the truth is that self discipline is very important because that's what keeps your mind focused however in the case of becoming an addict is actually something that can happen without the person even realizing himself because the moment you are gambling and possibly making some wining and from there the mind will starts going towards the things you could possibly achieve that's just the moment it will start coming and as days goes you continue gambling before you know you have gotten to the point were you cannot control yourself anymore, so in summary addition is not a choice but can be prevented if you have a control and self discipline.

I think it's clear from just a glance that I can imagine that everyone will definitely never want to choose addiction in gambling, because after all addiction is a situation where a person will experience many bad impacts, especially destruction of the financial situation, and obviously everyone will definitely never want to experience a bad situation like that, therefore maybe I will agree with your opinion that addiction does not occur intentionally but occurs without the person realizing it.

And usually this happens because of an increase in interest in gambling, especially winnings in gambling that occur and are experienced by a gambler unconsciously, which in the end makes them place their hopes and beliefs higher and higher until they end up becoming dependent on this activity. That is the process of addiction in gambling, the conclusion of which I think is clear is that addiction occurs not because from the start a gambler chooses to be addicted, but usually because from the start they do not understand and comprehend what and how the gambling activity actually is.

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July 17, 2024, 05:08:04 PM
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Addiction is indeed a choice and this is why I skipped in the main time. You should have a healthy and resistive mind to choose properly.

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July 17, 2024, 05:14:31 PM
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These addictions are often seen in rich people only. A poor or middle-class guy gambles only to test his luck. He can’t afford to be addicted to gambling. So yes, as a middle-class guy, I have never been addicted to gambling. Whenever I have some extra money, I just do sports betting by taking minimal risk. If you don’t have funds to gamble, how will you become addicted? If anyhow these addicts are stopped supplying funds, then I am sure their gambling habit will soon decrease.
It's true that addiction is often caused when a person gambles excessively and to gamble overly, one needs enough funds. A person without enough money wouldn't be able to do that. Still, I would say that I have seen people having no money being addicted to gambling, I have seen them taking loans and borrowing money from others only to gamble with it, some would do the worst, they might get to an extent where they will be ready to do crimes only to get some money.

So, addiction is not only limited to rich people and people from middle or lower classes can also get addicted to gambling, and this addiction is mainly caused by the wins they might get. If a middle-class guy manages to win something good with a small amount, they would want to experience that again, and for that, they will gamble again, and if they continue doing that, they will become addicted to it.
@doomloop, thank you for widening his knowledge about gambling addiction. I think his environment might have played a huge part in making him believe that gambling addiction is exclusive to the rich people only. There are environments where you'll find yourself and observe that there are certain class of people who engages in some certain things. I've been to an environment where gamblers are majorly rich people who engages in gambling either for fun or to get richer and in the case of those who gamble to get richer, they end up becoming gambling addicts because of their insatiable hunger for wealth so you expect anybody from that environment to only think that gambling addiction is for the rich. However, it is right to correct that opinion about gambling addiction. There are poor people who gamble without regulating their excesses and sometimes ends up as gambling addicts.

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July 17, 2024, 05:20:14 PM
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I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.
It’s just great that you discovered the problem in time. I haven’t experienced something like addiction yet, but I had examples in real life among people I know, so I’m as careful as possible with games. Having a set budget for the month that I can spend helps me a lot not to fall into meaningless games and bets for the sake of bets. An allocated budget is a good helper for players.

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July 17, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
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As long as you have control over a particular thing you are not addicted to that thing but when that particular thing controls you then you are sure you are addicted to that particular thing. Being addicted is never good for yourself and your family. 

All the gamblers I have seen so far, especially those who have become addicted to gambling, have not had a very good future. Either they have pressured the family to gamble or they have done various criminal activities to manage the gambling money then how do you support such activities. 

If you gamble once or twice a day and you have control over it, I wouldn't call it a gambling addiction at all, but gambling whenever you feel like it and losing money, then gambling again is definitely an addiction. 

For those who are new gamblers I would say that you don't get addicted to gambling straight away as you can get addicted to gambling right from the start. If your curiosity is working with gambling, you may take a gamble or two without paying too much attention to it. If the result is in your favor you can take a break and start again and if the result is against you still have to take a break and start gambling, this will show that your chances of becoming addicted to gambling are greatly reduced.

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July 17, 2024, 05:42:21 PM
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In everything we do we must apply moderation, it's very possible to have a plan and limit but still fall into addiction of constant playing
Due to greed and other things. Gambling has a dopamine effect on the brain, most gamblers that are addicted and dealing with this problem are going through this. Even after winning they still find themselves playing more till they lose everything they have
Repeating the cycle of winning and losing gives them a sense of satisfaction even if it's ruining them constantly
Thats the dopamine effect of it.
Discipline is key, whether you think you are addicted or not do not let your life be centered around gambling

Someone who takes a medical approach in their response, okay, that's how it is, it's not always about the game, and fortunately a large percentage of people are in control of their emotions, but others are not, and escaping is not easy, we can all fall.

Now, discipline is something easy to say, but it is acquired with experience... and that is a big problem, at least As I always say, practice other things, sports, reading, etc. consequently when you have discipline in other areas it is easy to apply them in the game.

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July 17, 2024, 05:49:04 PM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.

It's not that simple in my opinion, I think that many gamblers never think and choose to gamble to get addicted, because the average person knows that addiction is not a good thing in any case, but because it is automated by the person's own habits, for example, like you do any activity that makes you interesting and fun often in your daily life it will make you addicted without realizing it even though you didn't think that you would be addicted before, likewise with gambling if you do it too often so that it makes you ambitious it will push you to become an addicted gambler.

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Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
Been addicted to gambling or anything in this life is a decision we make either consciously or unconsciously, so if a person happens to have had a strong will and sticks to it over time, example to gamble responsibly without been carried away by greed, then there is absolutely nothing that could change the mind of such individual. It is a proven fact. Whereas, majority of the people who fall victim to gambling addiction are always either people who are depressed or those who sees it as the gateway to getting rich quick.

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It's not that simple in my opinion, I think that many gamblers never think and choose to gamble to get addicted, because the average person knows that addiction is not a good thing in any case, but because it is automated by the person's own habits, for example, like you do any activity that makes you interesting and fun often in your daily life it will make you addicted without realizing it even though you didn't think that you would be addicted before, likewise with gambling if you do it too often so that it makes you ambitious it will push you to become an addicted gambler.

You have a point because I always say that I do not see any point in anyone failing themselves intentionally. It always happens when they didn't expect it. Addiction is not something that you can avoid when you are doing things that makes addiction become a part of your problem. They only way you can avoid addiction is when you know how to prevent it and you follow up with practice that will make you not get addicted. If you find yourself being addicted, you can act quickly and you would not have being affected. If you do not know that what is happening to you is an addiction, it will keep eating you up and you get very dip into the addiction. When this happens you can not get yourself out unless you have a very strong determination mindset and also have the help of a professional and your family that caby help you through the process of getting clean through going to the addiction programs.

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July 17, 2024, 07:42:29 PM
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It's not that simple in my opinion, I think that many gamblers never think and choose to gamble to get addicted, because the average person knows that addiction is not a good thing in any case, but because it is automated by the person's own habits, for example, like you do any activity that makes you interesting and fun often in your daily life it will make you addicted without realizing it even though you didn't think that you would be addicted before, likewise with gambling if you do it too often so that it makes you ambitious it will push you to become an addicted gambler.

You have a point because I always say that I do not see any point in anyone failing themselves intentionally. It always happens when they didn't expect it. Addiction is not something that you can avoid when you are doing things that makes addiction become a part of your problem. They only way you can avoid addiction is when you know how to prevent it and you follow up with practice that will make you not get addicted. If you find yourself being addicted, you can act quickly and you would not have being affected. If you do not know that what is happening to you is an addiction, it will keep eating you up and you get very dip into the addiction. When this happens you can not get yourself out unless you have a very strong determination mindset and also have the help of a professional and your family that caby help you through the process of getting clean through going to the addiction programs.

Yes that's it, the impact is indeed too dangerous for ourselves primarily.

As far as I understand and try to observe that when we do gambling, which in fact can trigger our adrenaline to become attracted to gambling and can trigger our emotions, then we should not gamble too often and too long in one session, as much as possible we should have a time limit until we can feel ourselves having to stop, this is useful for not getting used to our mindset and adrenaline focusing on gambling it will help not to fall into addiction easily.

Unless we already have very good self-control, it is already in a very high level of independence of mind so that anything will not affect because it is under the control of logic no longer ambition or feelings at one point.

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July 17, 2024, 07:51:27 PM
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I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.
It’s just great that you discovered the problem in time. I haven’t experienced something like addiction yet, but I had examples in real life among people I know, so I’m as careful as possible with games. Having a set budget for the month that I can spend helps me a lot not to fall into meaningless games and bets for the sake of bets. An allocated budget is a good helper for players.
I have seen people getting addicted to gambling and losing money because they were not that smart enough to understand themselves and how to fix things in the most appropriate ways. Gambling is meant to be less frequently although I Will not blame anyone because we all have different backgrounds and their are others too that don't have the funds or jobs they will be doing that will take their mindset away from gambling. Addiction comes easily and when we don't understand the signs we need to look for to know that might be getting addicted to gambling so that necessary precautions can be taken to prevent us from gambling in an inappropriate manner.

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July 17, 2024, 08:13:37 PM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
If you don’t really want to be addicted to gambling, then you won’t be addicted to it. Most people get addicted to gambling because of their mindset. If you have the mindset of having fun from gambling, then you won’t be addicted to gambling, but if you have the mindset of making money from gambling, then that’s when addiction sets in, because you will always want to win. Even when you are supposed to stop gambling, you will want to keep on gambling because you know that if you don't give up, you are going to win. That’s just how people get addicted to gambling.

If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? 
If you can maintain your gambling habit like that, then you are not going to become addicted to gambling.

Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
It’s not about telling yourself you don’t want to be addicted to gambling, you have to be determined that you are not going to be addicted to it before you will be able to achieve that. When some people started gambling, they do tell themselves they won’t get addicted to gambling, but at the end, they were gambling addicts.

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July 17, 2024, 08:35:48 PM
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I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.
It’s just great that you discovered the problem in time. I haven’t experienced something like addiction yet, but I had examples in real life among people I know, so I’m as careful as possible with games. Having a set budget for the month that I can spend helps me a lot not to fall into meaningless games and bets for the sake of bets. An allocated budget is a good helper for players.
I have seen people getting addicted to gambling and losing money because they were not that smart enough to understand themselves and how to fix things in the most appropriate ways. Gambling is meant to be less frequently although I Will not blame anyone because we all have different backgrounds and their are others too that don't have the funds or jobs they will be doing that will take their mindset away from gambling. Addiction comes easily and when we don't understand the signs we need to look for to know that might be getting addicted to gambling so that necessary precautions can be taken to prevent us from gambling in an inappropriate manner.

I think gambling addition is more than what you think or understand because smartness can't help anymore to fix the problem of addiction especially if the person is always having access to steady flow of income. Most times people even get addicted without knowing that they are addicted because they think that they are doing the right things since they are using small amounts of money to chase bigger amounts and most times they end up losing so much money even though they intend not to use the amounts for gambling, the best measure I think can help any gambler is to use a certain amount of money and when the amount is lost, the person should not think of gambling again because most people end up losing more money when they try to recover their initial loss.

Engaging an addicted gambler will not even help the person to stop gambling because the person will always find means to gamble, I think the best thing is monitor them and make them not to get closer to gambling apps and shops that's after talking to them in a good manner.

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July 17, 2024, 08:39:52 PM
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It's true that addiction is often caused when a person gambles excessively and to gamble overly, one needs enough funds. A person without enough money wouldn't be able to do that. Still, I would say that I have seen people having no money being addicted to gambling, I have seen them taking loans and borrowing money from others only to gamble with it, some would do the worst, they might get to an extent where they will be ready to do crimes only to get some money.

Addiction does not have anything to do with whether one is rich or poor or whether at the addicted person is successful or not. Some people get addicted to gambling because the people around them win big in their faces and they also want to experience the same feeling thereby pushing them to always wanting to gamble. Peer pressure within gamblers have also made some people get addicted to gambling. While to the., they are struggling to win big matches with little stakes, they fail to realize that it is affecting their mentality thereby leading them to addiction.

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July 17, 2024, 08:45:31 PM
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I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.
It’s just great that you discovered the problem in time. I haven’t experienced something like addiction yet, but I had examples in real life among people I know, so I’m as careful as possible with games. Having a set budget for the month that I can spend helps me a lot not to fall into meaningless games and bets for the sake of bets. An allocated budget is a good helper for players.
I have seen people getting addicted to gambling and losing money because they were not that smart enough to understand themselves and how to fix things in the most appropriate ways. Gambling is meant to be less frequently although I Will not blame anyone because we all have different backgrounds and their are others too that don't have the funds or jobs they will be doing that will take their mindset away from gambling. Addiction comes easily and when we don't understand the signs we need to look for to know that might be getting addicted to gambling so that necessary precautions can be taken to prevent us from gambling in an inappropriate manner.
Sometimes people get addicted to gamble because they don't have any clue of what addiction can cause to them. Addiction is a thing we can't stop talking about because there are a lot of gamblers in the world and many of them are addicted and some that are not yet addicted don't also believe that addicts exist because they think that they can not be an addict to gamble.
Addictions doesn't start all of a sudden, it's a kind of thing that starts gradually, but only few gamblers get to figure out that they are becoming addicted and limits themselves from gambling everyday.

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July 17, 2024, 08:46:04 PM
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Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
Been addicted to gambling or anything in this life is a decision we make either consciously or unconsciously, so if a person happens to have had a strong will and sticks to it over time, example to gamble responsibly without been carried away by greed, then there is absolutely nothing that could change the mind of such individual. It is a proven fact. Whereas, majority of the people who fall victim to gambling addiction are always either people who are depressed or those who sees it as the gateway to getting rich quick.

Some take at first as excited means and later grows into something else. I have a friend who virtually stay any second without him actually gambling and keeping himself busy with the act and sometimes I do ask him if he really knows what he is doing and he always tells me that without gambling he is actually bored all the time and this kind of feeling or attachment can definitely lead to an addiction.

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July 17, 2024, 08:48:38 PM
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You're right OP, addiction is by choice in gambling, because its not everyone gambling is being addicted, those that were addicted made such as their own choice while others that were not found being addicted also take the courage and efforts to see that they never gets addicted with the way they are gambling, this same principles applies on life, we choose to be whom we are or what we become by ourselves.

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July 17, 2024, 09:05:58 PM
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I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.
It’s just great that you discovered the problem in time. I haven’t experienced something like addiction yet, but I had examples in real life among people I know, so I’m as careful as possible with games. Having a set budget for the month that I can spend helps me a lot not to fall into meaningless games and bets for the sake of bets. An allocated budget is a good helper for players.
I have seen people getting addicted to gambling and losing money because they were not that smart enough to understand themselves and how to fix things in the most appropriate ways. Gambling is meant to be less frequently although I Will not blame anyone because we all have different backgrounds and their are others too that don't have the funds or jobs they will be doing that will take their mindset away from gambling. Addiction comes easily and when we don't understand the signs we need to look for to know that might be getting addicted to gambling so that necessary precautions can be taken to prevent us from gambling in an inappropriate manner.
Addictions doesn't start all of a sudden, it's a kind of thing that starts gradually, but only few gamblers get to figure out that they are becoming addicted and limits themselves from gambling everyday.

True, addiction doesn't start in a day it takes time based on the continuous playing of gamble by anyone, but it is very difficult for a gambler to even figure out that he's getting addicted unless such person realizes that he's got to stop playing after losing money or he is not in a position that money comes to him but anyone who is able to Identify that he's getting addicted and stops is really a great person. Personally I have had the experience but l decided to put a stop to the spirit and urge to always fund my online account to gamble after losing the money that is meant for an important thing in the family, gambling addition is not just a thing it's a spirit so I think.

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