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July 18, 2024, 09:02:48 PM
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Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?

I can claim myself that I have never been addicted to gambling, although I do not have that much motivation for gambling. I bet only a few times but lost only won two to three times but later lost my money since then I quit gambling. So far I have controlled myself I have no urge to gamble, and I am not addicted to gambling. If I were addicted to gambling, I would definitely be attracted to gambling again and again, and I would be motivated to gamble. But I am not addicted to gambling because I don't feel that much desire for gambling, and I don't like it, but gambling can be done by all people who are not addicted. If you quit gambling, and you have motivation to gamble in the future you will definitely not be addicted, so if you quit gambling you will never become addicted.
You might have portrayed some attitude that may be considered an addiction but you will never know. When I started gambling I usually didn't win a lot but there was a certain period when I got to win a good amount and then I do during that period is that after every few minutes, I always returned to the casino site and made some bets and gradually it got into me that I can't stay more than an hour without placing a bet. I never knew I was getting addicted until a day came I made a big loss which affected me so badly that's when I got upset and deleted the app.

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July 18, 2024, 09:02:59 PM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
Easier to say when you are on the other side buddy!!

Gambling addiction boarders around lack of self-control, someone just loses themselves and they start to gamble impulsively because of varying reasons, trying to win back what they lost, love to play at the table or simply don't just know when to call it quits and will keep gambling...

Otherwise that feeling of control that you have that makes you say you can't be a gambling addict, unfortunately not everyone has it which is why it's identified to be a problem for other's.

If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling?  Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process? Just want to ask this question;

Can you comfortably tell yourself that you have never been addicted to gambling and that you can never be addicted to gambling because of how you go about it?
I don't think all addicts have to gamble with big money, sometimes it's the access to financing that makes people fall in this trap such that their job is negatively affected, marriage affected, finances affected and everything else gets affected...like I said every situation is unique to itself, so would prefer not to judge!

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July 18, 2024, 09:25:00 PM
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Yes addiction can be controlled if the person is not a chronic gambler. But if the person is a greedy gambler and he wants to win at all the time then addiction is not far from the person. In gambling you must lose and win. And when you loss, you don't have to pursue or chase your loss and once you do that then you are also chasing for addition as well. And the best way is, when you play gamble and you loss, you have to accept the loss and move on and if you win then don't be over excited because that might want you to win more and addiction is just at the corner waiting. Just know yourself and play with good mind. Then all is good.
I completely agree with you, but the fact is that not all players can accept losses, because the excitement takes over some so much that they forget about everything, even about basic responsibilities in real life. Also, the modern world is full of comfort, and no one really likes losing, so throw out negative energy. will have to anyway. The best way would be the gym in my opinion, and the worst would be uncontrolled betting. What each player will do depends only on him; some will even be able to benefit from this, while others will completely destroy themselves. I would like there to be fewer second players.

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July 18, 2024, 10:36:32 PM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
Sincerely speaking most of the addiction in gambling is cause by we %100. I would say Gambling is a matter of choice if you ask me. because the word"gamble" is only a word use to describe the attitude of gambling addiction comes only when we put our interest in gambling. Otherwise if you chose not to, you can never be addictive. %90 of people who are addicted to gambling is as a result of constant lose chasing win.

Certain players may appear perfectly innocent, when interrogated, that they know nothing regarding their compulsive habit. This tendency of players being a complete cause to their problem isn't self relatable for addicts. Probably, most often, they resist the acknowledgement of this fact and move further with what seems right as a player. Sayings like "Not giving up on the chase, someday, guarantees a big win", is a widely accepted thought amongst compulsive players. Pressing hard on this “you caused it" perspective plays a trivial role on such players, as they have a list of people to blame for their gambling problem. While it's their fault, to what end do we remind them of this, when we know it'll piss them off?

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July 18, 2024, 10:39:04 PM
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      -      Being an addict in gambling is a matter of choice, as you will not be an addict if you do not choose to gamble for gambling most of the time of your life. What others say is that for entertainment, they are just gambling, but eventually. It also becomes an addict.

To gamble is a choice, yes, but to get addicted is a process.  Gambling and getting addicted to gambling are two different things.  One can choose to engage in gambling but it does not mean that he chooses to get addicted to gambling.

Some people got hooked on chasing losses and eventually realize that they were doing wrong and stop that chase but people are different, others who are into getting their funds back lose their control over their gambling activities and end up getting addicted.  So initially, the gambler's intention is to get his funds back but due to circumstances, he ends up getting addicted.  It was not to be a gambling addict that the gambler chose but to recover his losses.

As long as you have no self-control and the limit of gambling, you will eventually have a gambling addiction because we are also making a reason for us to gamble that we do not realize that we are losing control of it.

This simply supports that gambling addiction is not a choice but rather a circumstance since those people who choose to engage in gambling but lack self-control and moderation end up being addicted to gambling.

Yes addiction can be controlled if the person is not a chronic gambler. But if the person is a greedy gambler and he wants to win at all the time then addiction is not far from the person. In gambling you must lose and win. And when you loss, you don't have to pursue or chase your loss and once you do that then you are also chasing for addition as well. And the best way is, when you play gamble and you loss, you have to accept the loss and move on and if you win then don't be over excited because that might want you to win more and addiction is just at the corner waiting. Just know yourself and play with good mind. Then all is good.

The best course of action to give little chance to gambling addiction is to know when to stop.  This does not care whether a person is greedy or not, as long as he knows when to stop, he can be confident that he has little chance of getting addicted.

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July 18, 2024, 10:51:30 PM
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I'm not sure that addiction is 100 percent the gambler's fault
Yes, I agree with the phenomenon that people often want to get into trouble themselves or even want to replace reality with their fantasies: as happens in gambling addiction.
In this case, the brain wants to escape from problems. But the fact is that many people themselves are healthy and they become addicted not because of the reasons described above, but because the game is to blame for causing them to become addicted.

Honestly, I respect your opinion. I know that no one knows everything at once, and based on my own idea, I have dropped my opinion above, and I think that addiction is actually the fault of gamblers. Before a gambler becomes addicted, they will get the signs and symptoms of it, but because of ignorance, they will let go of those symptoms and continue to gamble recklessly. There's nothing that we pass through without our mind being aware. If it's something bad, it tells us, but we can choose to ignore it. You don't have to agree with what I say, but I want to know if you have some facts to back up why you think it's not the fault of the gambler. 

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July 18, 2024, 10:57:40 PM
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I'm not sure that addiction is 100 percent the gambler's fault
Yes, I agree with the phenomenon that people often want to get into trouble themselves or even want to replace reality with their fantasies: as happens in gambling addiction.
In this case, the brain wants to escape from problems. But the fact is that many people themselves are healthy and they become addicted not because of the reasons described above, but because the game is to blame for causing them to become addicted.

Honestly, I respect your opinion. I know that no one knows everything at once, and based on my own idea, I have dropped my opinion above, and I think that addiction is actually the fault of gamblers. Before a gambler becomes addicted, they will get the signs and symptoms of it, but because of ignorance, they will let go of those symptoms and continue to gamble recklessly. There's nothing that we pass through without our mind being aware. If it's something bad, it tells us, but we can choose to ignore it. You don't have to agree with what I say, but I want to know if you have some facts to back up why you think it's not the fault of the gambler. 

People really think giving is the fault of the game and not the person?  If that were true than anyone who played that game would have the same results.  People are just built differently, some of which are suseptible to being addicted to things like gambling.  It's up to the person to understand theor level of addiction and place themselves in an area that will be healthy for them.  Away from those games, in therapy, rehab, around family etc.

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July 19, 2024, 09:42:09 AM
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Yes addiction can be controlled if the person is not a chronic gambler. But if the person is a greedy gambler and he wants to win at all the time then addiction is not far from the person. In gambling you must lose and win. And when you loss, you don't have to pursue or chase your loss and once you do that then you are also chasing for addition as well. And the best way is, when you play gamble and you loss, you have to accept the loss and move on and if you win then don't be over excited because that might want you to win more and addiction is just at the corner waiting. Just know yourself and play with good mind. Then all is good.
I completely agree with you, but the fact is that not all players can accept losses, because the excitement takes over some so much that they forget about everything, even about basic responsibilities in real life. Also, the modern world is full of comfort, and no one really likes losing, so throw out negative energy. will have to anyway. The best way would be the gym in my opinion, and the worst would be uncontrolled betting. What each player will do depends only on him; some will even be able to benefit from this, while others will completely destroy themselves. I would like there to be fewer second players.

By having that limitation and add some things to do to divert your attention will help you to avoid addiction, like what you said, going to a gym after gaming, either you reach the amount that you allot for your gambling or you already made the amount that you are aiming for your win, as long as you schedule yourself to move forward, chances to become addicted is slim.

Most of those addicted gamblers always over-exceed from the allotted target and they forgot and that's where addiction will start to penetrate them.

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July 19, 2024, 10:05:23 AM
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However it depends on the gambler. In a case like this you only have to talk about yourself along because you know yourself better than others. Some gamblers that are addicted might be their fault and some are not. That's why I said it depends on the gambler. Only a gambler can know if he made himself addicted or not. Some don't know what addiction means until it meets them and other gambler knew but still they became addicted, these are they people who we can blame for becoming addicted because they know about addiction but they are adamant to it.
In this case it seems like you have said something quite logical because basically that is the case and the only fact that someone knows about themselves is themselves. So in the case of gambling addiction, this is also the case where he is actually very aware that he is addicted to gambling, but because he does not have the ability to stop at a certain time. This will continue to be done as long as he can still do it using any means and I think in cases like that only himself is to blame, not other people even if that person is friends with other gamblers.

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July 19, 2024, 11:56:34 AM
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Almost 90% of the people who have a thing against gambling do so because they feel that gambling is addictive. But come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
This most subjected discussion gambling addiction is actually a choice as you said which everyone beginner gamblers has always taken caution about so that it does not become a thing of them but how really do they finally becomes a victim?

Obviously they can not tell it and at some extend when you try to call on their attention about their addiction they would neither not agree with you that they have fallen the addictive victim. How?

It all happened as tolerance of loosing more than what they can afford to loose then let go of it which occurs time after time and just because they could control their emotions at when looses for huge amounts, they never realizes that an addition is approaching not until they come to track their gambling records and also their savings then they will understand that they have been betting and loosing more that is affecting their financial goals.

At some points, it may become a time of courage to refrain from their addiction while otherwise, it becomes uncontrollable by which they would keep up gambling irresponsibly with the same goal of chasing profits or trying to recover their losts.

There then, it becomes an accidental addiction which they do not know how it began and was not a choice for them.
Nobody wakes up and says, "Im gonna be a gambling addict." It sneaks up on you. You lose a little, you try to win it back, and before you know it, you're in a hole you cant climb out of. And its not about being careless. Everyone starts small, but gambling messes with your head. It makes you think you're smarter than you are, luckier than you are. Its a trap.

The worst part is, it happens so slow you barely notice. One day you're having fun, the next day you're obsessed. You think you're in control, but you're not. It takes over your life. It hurts the people you love. It ruins everything. But you gotta face it. You gotta admit you have a problem.

The good news is, you're not alone. There's help out there. There's technology now that can keep track of your habits, show you when you're going off the rails. Its like having a friend watching your back, a friend who knows what you're going through and wants to help you win this fight.
The above highlighted are very crucial to the subject of this thread.
Addiction is an exposed habit which everyone is aware of but no one wants to be a victim to it which means even while we are trying to be careful of it, it becomes unfortunate that even when we befalls its victim unknowingly.

And at the same time, we might not think that we are maintaining good response along the lines but to no avail so then, only those who pays attentions and cares about us are ones who can figure it out to us.

Unconsciously... Even when our gambling addiction is brought to our attention, we would still be in doubt claiming of being responsible gamblers not until we trace our formal being such as bankrolls and how much time spent as we began to gambling and how much time spent as a course of being enticed to the ground of being addict.
Only at this point we might be able to realize that we have truly gone off of irresponsible gambling.

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July 19, 2024, 12:41:42 PM
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However it depends on the gambler. In a case like this you only have to talk about yourself along because you know yourself better than others. Some gamblers that are addicted might be their fault and some are not. That's why I said it depends on the gambler. Only a gambler can know if he made himself addicted or not. Some don't know what addiction means until it meets them and other gambler knew but still they became addicted, these are they people who we can blame for becoming addicted because they know about addiction but they are adamant to it.
In this case it seems like you have said something quite logical because basically that is the case and the only fact that someone knows about themselves is themselves. So in the case of gambling addiction, this is also the case where he is actually very aware that he is addicted to gambling, but because he does not have the ability to stop at a certain time. This will continue to be done as long as he can still do it using any means and I think in cases like that only himself is to blame, not other people even if that person is friends with other gamblers.
with them becoming addicted it is unlikely that they will realize that they are addicted, in fact I think they will not admit to themselves that they are addicted to gambling. other people who see how often he gambles and how he gambles will judge that he is addicted to gambling, subconsciously they gamble excessively and that is what makes them addicted, apart from that the thought that maybe only thinking about winning is what drives them. They continue to gamble by ignoring the obvious risks that will occur. Addiction is your own decision, it is not natural to blame other people when they are addicted. Even though initially it was because their friends introduced them to gambling, if there is self-control and clear boundaries, of course there will be no bad effects or excessive actions that make them addicted to gambling.

When someone has become addicted, of course they have to blame themselves for not being able to control themselves well, because if they could control themselves it would be impossible for gambling addiction and other bad effects to occur. Even though it is difficult to control themselves, if they can continue to practice it consistently then self-control will exist and be practiced well in order to prevent addiction and other bad impacts. because once you become addicted to gambling it will be difficult to get out of it, even with help from an expert it will not guarantee that it will be easy.

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July 19, 2024, 02:07:26 PM
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By having that limitation and add some things to do to divert your attention will help you to avoid addiction, like what you said, going to a gym after gaming, either you reach the amount that you allot for your gambling or you already made the amount that you are aiming for your win, as long as you schedule yourself to move forward, chances to become addicted is slim.

Most of those addicted gamblers always over-exceed from the allotted target and they forgot and that's where addiction will start to penetrate them.
Limitation helps you from the bad things that can happens after you playing gambling. With limitation, you will know that playing gambling don't have to be too long and after you gets the fun, you can quit gambling immediately to avoids the will to continue playing gambling. You know that playing gambling too long and too often can makes you become addicted to gambling so you wants to avoids that.

You can make a schedule when you can playing gambling or just playing gambling when you really wants. You don't insist to playing gambling if you don't have much time or can't enjoy playing gambling. Limitation and with other things really helps you from gambling addiction and that is your choice not to become addicted to gambling. You can enjoy gambling as an entertainment.

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July 19, 2024, 05:21:19 PM
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People really think giving is the fault of the game and not the person?  If that were true than anyone who played that game would have the same results.  People are just built differently, some of which are suseptible to being addicted to things like gambling.  It's up to the person to understand theor level of addiction and place themselves in an area that will be healthy for them.  Away from those games, in therapy, rehab, around family etc.

Yes, you are right; some people don't just think before taking one action repeatedly. Like you said, if a game can really bring successful results at all times, that means lots of gamblers would have turned millionaires through gambling, but rather millions of dollars are lost every day at the casino. Some gamblers don't seem to realize that gambling results can not be determined before playing one can only make predictions). Due to the principle of life, everyone has different habits, and it makes more sense that not really every gambler can resist addictions to gambling. 

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Like you said gambling is a choice so it is getting addiction is likely a choice as well, because when you set your budget and the amount fixed to be used to gamble then there's no way you would just got addicted that way except you aren't monitoring the amount and how you gamble. To me what mostly affect people is that when they put their trust and hope into gambling that it would give them quick money or took it as the only source of income could easily make them becomes addicted.

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Like you said gambling is a choice so it is getting addiction is likely a choice as well, because when you set your budget and the amount fixed to be used to gamble then there's no way you would just got addicted that way except you aren't monitoring the amount and how you gamble. To me what mostly affect people is that when they put their trust and hope into gambling that it would give them quick money or took it as the only source of income could easily make them becomes addicted.

I think we can set another example, a much different approach. Like a guy who chose to get intimate with his partner having all the natural precautionary measures (but not using a condom) to not get her pregnant but eventually all those measures failed and got her pregnant.  Do you think it is the guy's choice to get her partner pregnant?  I think no, he may have become irresponsible resulting in his partner being pregnant but it was not his intention to impregnate his girlfriend.

I think the same scenario fits gambling and gambling addiction.  Choosing to gamble does not mean the gambler wants to be a gambling addict.

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July 19, 2024, 07:15:57 PM
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You might have portrayed some attitude that may be considered an addiction but you will never know. When I started gambling I usually didn't win a lot but there was a certain period when I got to win a good amount and then I do during that period is that after every few minutes, I always returned to the casino site and made some bets and gradually it got into me that I can't stay more than an hour without placing a bet. I never knew I was getting addicted until a day came I made a big loss which affected me so badly that's when I got upset and deleted the app.


Grin Grin your last part got me laughing hard. It has happened to me severally and I also did the same thing. In fact, I did not only delete the app, I requested them to block my account in order not to get access to gambling again but guess what… I created another account to continue gambling. The truth about this addiction is that people who are addicted have no idea about their addiction. They don’t know that is addiction that is controlling them. I was once a real gambler and I know how tempting it can be. It only takes grace and courage to free oneself from addiction of any kind. It’s actually not as easy as it is being said.


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July 19, 2024, 07:27:47 PM
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However it depends on the gambler. In a case like this you only have to talk about yourself along because you know yourself better than others. Some gamblers that are addicted might be their fault and some are not. That's why I said it depends on the gambler. Only a gambler can know if he made himself addicted or not. Some don't know what addiction means until it meets them and other gambler knew but still they became addicted, these are they people who we can blame for becoming addicted because they know about addiction but they are adamant to it.
In this case it seems like you have said something quite logical because basically that is the case and the only fact that someone knows about themselves is themselves. So in the case of gambling addiction, this is also the case where he is actually very aware that he is addicted to gambling, but because he does not have the ability to stop at a certain time. This will continue to be done as long as he can still do it using any means and I think in cases like that only himself is to blame, not other people even if that person is friends with other gamblers.
It's an action only you can hold yourself account for, I mean it's virtually not anyone cause if you end up being an addict because we all know what we are getting ourselves into at some point so basically everyone is consciously aware that their gambling habits is definitely going out of hand and they should find a way to stop it and nothing more. Any gambler that shifts blame to people for his action is actually an irresponsible human as he shy away from the truth.

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Like you said gambling is a choice so it is getting addiction is likely a choice as well, because when you set your budget and the amount fixed to be used to gamble then there's no way you would just got addicted that way except you aren't monitoring the amount and how you gamble. To me what mostly affect people is that when they put their trust and hope into gambling that it would give them quick money or took it as the only source of income could easily make them becomes addicted.

To be honest, so far I am not sure that addiction is a choice, in some cases it usually happens purely or naturally over time due to changes in a gambler's mindset in terms of responding to and responding to the gambling activity itself.

As you believe that one of the causes of someone being addicted is when they put their trust and hope in that activity, this means that in gambling someone is very likely to put their hope and trust in gambling slowly when they experience changes in terms of interest in the activity, and changes This attraction is very likely to occur without the gamblers themselves realizing it, especially when in several sessions they manage to achieve quite tempting wins.

I understand that gambling is a choice, in the sense that you are free to decide whether you want to be involved in gambling or not at all, but that does not mean that when you decide to gamble you will immediately become addicted, because the problem of addiction is an impact that will occur. which will change the person's perspective when they respond excessively to winning.

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July 19, 2024, 07:31:53 PM
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Basically before you gamble and then choose to gamble you should know the risks that you might get from gambling when you always gamble, and addiction is your risk as a person who wants to gamble, so indirectly also you are addicted to it your choice because you choose to gamble.

Therefore before doing anything including gambling you must have a good understanding of the benefits and risks so that you know what you choose is good for you or not.

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July 19, 2024, 07:36:05 PM
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This whole thing still goes down to how you see the addiction.. you can get addicted without even knowing that you're addicted because you didn't see any addiction in what you're doing ... About the choice of a thing, I won't say it actually a choice because  it's driven by many factors especially the winning hope Smiley, so you can choose not to get addicted while you're already addicted Cheesy, besides what you call addiction might not be addiction to another person that's why I said it depend son how you see it

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