US-China economy war + radical Trump = higher inflation + interest rates + war

[pooya87]

Mate, what I believe is that China is confident for some reasons against the US tariff war, which is that their greater part of economy depends largely on exports, right, and if the US imposes higher tariff rates on China, then mate, think about how many big companies that are built in China that are US-based, big example Apple factories, and some other big known brands. And imposing higher tariff rates on China will also mean that increased inflation rates in the US. What do you think? mate, this is just my point of view. CMIIW!

And your facts are also valid here, because these tariff wars will also affect the Chinese economy as well, as some days ago I was reading some news headlines that the Chinese economy is also collapsing badly. Maybe, this can be a reason that prompts both US and Chinese presidents to negotiate to get some good end points to settle this tariff war.

In war both sides will be hurt which means higher inflation (and generally worse economic conditions) in both countries and since this is a global war in other countries as well with varied degrees. We've already seen the inflation in US rise and millions of people protest against this war their president started!

As for China, those who are saying "it is collapsing" are the same people who were saying "Russian economy is collapsing in a month" over 3 years ago! That's just nonsense. Chinese economy will be hurt but it won't collapse. It would take a lot more than that to collapse it.

Additionally in my comment you quoted above from a year ago, I was talking about other countries that would join that war against China. But Trump went ahead and made the stupidest mistake by waging an economic war against almost the entire world which meant other countries that might have joined in US campaign not only didn't join that side, but instead they joined the Chinese side.
We even saw something nobody would have believed when Japan and South Korea got closer to China!!! Even Europe is getting closer to China and overall US is being isolated...

[Silentcursor]

Mate, what I believe is that China is confident for some reasons against the US tariff war, which is that their greater part of economy depends largely on exports, right, and if the US imposes higher tariff rates on China, then mate, think about how many big companies that are built in China that are US-based, big example Apple factories, and some other big known brands. And imposing higher tariff rates on China will also mean that increased inflation rates in the US. What do you think? mate, this is just my point of view. CMIIW!

And your facts are also valid here, because these tariff wars will also affect the Chinese economy as well, as some days ago I was reading some news headlines that the Chinese economy is also collapsing badly. Maybe, this can be a reason that prompts both US and Chinese presidents to negotiate to get some good end points to settle this tariff war.

In war both sides will be hurt which means higher inflation (and generally worse economic conditions) in both countries and since this is a global war in other countries as well with varied degrees. We've already seen the inflation in US rise and millions of people protest against this war their president started!

As for China, those who are saying "it is collapsing" are the same people who were saying "Russian economy is collapsing in a month" over 3 years ago! That's just nonsense. Chinese economy will be hurt but it won't collapse. It would take a lot more than that to collapse it.

Additionally in my comment you quoted above from a year ago, I was talking about other countries that would join that war against China. But Trump went ahead and made the stupidest mistake by waging an economic war against almost the entire world which meant other countries that might have joined in US campaign not only didn't join that side, but instead they joined the Chinese side.
We even saw something nobody would have believed when Japan and South Korea got closer to China!!! Even Europe is getting closer to China and overall US is being isolated...

Trump's approach of imposing tariffs and expecting other nations to follow suit against China was indeed a stupid idea. His actions affected the global economy, the American cried over it too. The issue disrupted supply chains, increase cost of manufacturers, and led to higher prices for consumers. I can remember vividly over hundreds of producers from China were all over Tiktok spilling secrets on how most of the American companies relies on their supply of raw materials, sometimes finished products for refurbishing. The idea that a trade war would coerce China into submission underestimated the resilience and global integration of China's economy. Instead of weakening China, it prompted them to seek new partnerships and markets, further diminishing the intended impact of the tariffs Trump expected.

It seems Trump forget all China needed is more partnership. If the Americans decide not to do business with China, many other countries will sure choose China side because of their economical strength. I dont want to dive deeper into the aspect of the number of countries that are debtors to China till date. Their loans even in a decade time cannot be paid back fully.

You can point a gun on someone to stay with you temporarily, but their loyalty will ultimately go to where they find sustenance and growth. This is the current global situation, where nations are gravitating towards China, seeking stability and development.

[Cossyblack]

Mate, what I believe is that China is confident for some reasons against the US tariff war, which is that their greater part of economy depends largely on exports, right, and if the US imposes higher tariff rates on China, then mate, think about how many big companies that are built in China that are US-based, big example Apple factories, and some other big known brands. And imposing higher tariff rates on China will also mean that increased inflation rates in the US. What do you think? mate, this is just my point of view. CMIIW!

And your facts are also valid here, because these tariff wars will also affect the Chinese economy as well, as some days ago I was reading some news headlines that the Chinese economy is also collapsing badly. Maybe, this can be a reason that prompts both US and Chinese presidents to negotiate to get some good end points to settle this tariff war.

In war both sides will be hurt which means higher inflation (and generally worse economic conditions) in both countries and since this is a global war in other countries as well with varied degrees. We've already seen the inflation in US rise and millions of people protest against this war their president started!

As for China, those who are saying "it is collapsing" are the same people who were saying "Russian economy is collapsing in a month" over 3 years ago! That's just nonsense. Chinese economy will be hurt but it won't collapse. It would take a lot more than that to collapse it.

Additionally in my comment you quoted above from a year ago, I was talking about other countries that would join that war against China. But Trump went ahead and made the stupidest mistake by waging an economic war against almost the entire world which meant other countries that might have joined in US campaign not only didn't join that side, but instead they joined the Chinese side.
We even saw something nobody would have believed when Japan and South Korea got closer to China!!! Even Europe is getting closer to China and overall US is being isolated...

China produces more products than what they imports,that means China have a self sufficient economy. They don't actually depend or rely on other nations for sustainability because they consumed most of what they produces.Several countries depends on China for production than even the US and at this point of dependency,it is impossible for the US to convince all other countries to stop trades with China.

The US doesn't produce much as China, infact the US imports and consumes more products than what they produced. Let's just say,if the US succeed in convincing other countries to stop all dealing with China which is impossible, who's going to fill that production gaps in the supply chains. Offcourse,the US can't fill up that space or handle that huge responsibility on their own because they don't have that production capacity and even most of their products is been supplied from China.The US are claiming to have the best economy but literally, China has the biggest economy in the world.

My points is that, It will not be possible for all countries to choose the US over China for production and supply of raw materials. I agree with you primarily,that it will take more than just the trade war to collapse China economy. China have built their Economy for decades and it will take more than just decades for the US to succeed of which I doubt. If the US haven't been able to bring down Russia economically,then they should forget about China.

[avp2306]

Mate, what I believe is that China is confident for some reasons against the US tariff war, which is that their greater part of economy depends largely on exports, right, and if the US imposes higher tariff rates on China, then mate, think about how many big companies that are built in China that are US-based, big example Apple factories, and some other big known brands. And imposing higher tariff rates on China will also mean that increased inflation rates in the US. What do you think? mate, this is just my point of view. CMIIW!

And your facts are also valid here, because these tariff wars will also affect the Chinese economy as well, as some days ago I was reading some news headlines that the Chinese economy is also collapsing badly. Maybe, this can be a reason that prompts both US and Chinese presidents to negotiate to get some good end points to settle this tariff war.

In war both sides will be hurt which means higher inflation (and generally worse economic conditions) in both countries and since this is a global war in other countries as well with varied degrees. We've already seen the inflation in US rise and millions of people protest against this war their president started!

As for China, those who are saying "it is collapsing" are the same people who were saying "Russian economy is collapsing in a month" over 3 years ago! That's just nonsense. Chinese economy will be hurt but it won't collapse. It would take a lot more than that to collapse it.

Additionally in my comment you quoted above from a year ago, I was talking about other countries that would join that war against China. But Trump went ahead and made the stupidest mistake by waging an economic war against almost the entire world which meant other countries that might have joined in US campaign not only didn't join that side, but instead they joined the Chinese side.
We even saw something nobody would have believed when Japan and South Korea got closer to China!!! Even Europe is getting closer to China and overall US is being isolated...

We could see that they are also affected on their reckless act did since USD value is declining. Also we could add up the inflation rate goes high as what I read on the articles spreading tackle up this tariff thing done by US government. With these situation happened I really hope that Trump would realize his mistake done for messing up the good flow of trade market.

Currently reading the summary posted by ups https://www.ups.com/us/en/supplychain/resources/news-and-market-updates/2025-us-tariffs-impact-global-trade and its really crazy reading those  situations happened.

China will not collapse they have multiple ways to survive. Their technology and products is so useful for community so for sure with those things they could offer to the world for sure their country will continue to survive.

To bad for Trump he sanctioned his ally and for sure this create anger and provably that there are countries would provably take side of China especially if they think about that US implemented tariff on their country is to much for them.

[Sticky Bomb]

Additionally in my comment you quoted above from a year ago, I was talking about other countries that would join that war against China. But Trump went ahead and made the stupidest mistake by waging an economic war against almost the entire world which meant other countries that might have joined in US campaign not only didn't join that side, but instead they joined the Chinese side.
We even saw something nobody would have believed when Japan and South Korea got closer to China!!! Even Europe is getting closer to China and overall US is being isolated...

This is the main reason Trump paused the tariff hike bullshit, to take some time and buy back the loyalty of those he is loosing already as allies. Forget about the big talks he makes about the other countries calling and begging for a negotiation, He is the one doing that. I know China is a country that never wants to loose face and would do anything to uphold their integrity, they immediately started looking for other consumer markets in other countries and started having trade agreements with them including the unimaginable Japan and South Korea. When Trump saw that he was loosing the war, he immediately relaxed the tariff hike out of fear of China getting more trade advantage than the US.

China even went on to have Bilateral trade engagements with Malaysia, Vietnam and Cambodia. Last month The China president made a visit to these countries and already planned signing about 40 agreements with Vietnam alone which cuts across infrastructure and security cooperation. Trump was already seeing that the odds were against him and played smart to relax the tariff escalations on other countries but China.

We await the result from their talks this weekend. Meanwhile Trump has suggested the tariffs could be lowered. Let's watch the Trump drama and see where next it leads to.

[Popkon6]

How Bessent explained the 115-point reduction in U.S.-China tariffs that has triggered market euphoria
The U.S. and China will each lower tariffs by 115 percentage points

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-bessent-explained-the-115-point-reduction-in-u-s-china-tariffs-that-has-triggered-market-euphoria-825ea494

After months of trade war between China and the US, financial markets are now moving towards a somewhat desirable resolution. The Trump administration and Chinese officials have been pushing for tariff cuts on each other, which will further reflect on the trade side of the two countries.
Both countries have suffered huge economic losses during the months-long war and have come under heavy criticism in global markets. Everyone has been patient after the 115% tariffs were lifted and Wall Street rallied.

[EarnOnVictor]

We could see that they are also affected on their reckless act did since USD value is declining. Also we could add up the inflation rate goes high as what I read on the articles spreading tackle up this tariff thing done by US government. With these situation happened I really hope that Trump would realize his mistake done for messing up the good flow of trade market.

It is not a matter of hoping that Trump realises his mistakes, he has indeed realised his mistakes bitterly. That's why he is backing down in many of his ignoble policies like a coward, and also why the financial market is taking the opposite turn compared to when he was daring with his policies, especially with the tariffs.

Only Trump can do what the US president did in his first 100 days in office. I hope the US recovers fully from it Economically, Politically, and in Military alliance.

[Wind_FURY]

About China and how many people probably believe that they're "winning" because they control most of manufacturing of goods worldwide, and how they control most of the production of rare Earth metals.

- Do your research on the Spruce Pine Quartz Mine. I heard that it's more fortified than Fort Knox.

 

[Olatundespo]

We could see that they are also affected on their reckless act did since USD value is declining. Also we could add up the inflation rate goes high as what I read on the articles spreading tackle up this tariff thing done by US government. With these situation happened I really hope that Trump would realize his mistake done for messing up the good flow of trade market.

It is not a matter of hoping that Trump realises his mistakes, he has indeed realised his mistakes bitterly. That's why he is backing down in many of his ignoble policies like a coward, and also why the financial market is taking the opposite turn compared to when he was daring with his policies, especially with the tariffs.

Only Trump can do what the US president did in his first 100 days in office. I hope the US recovers fully from it Economically, Politically, and in Military alliance.

His departure from his policy means that he had taken a stand against the world and wanted to assert his power and he lose. It may not be obvious to everyone that he will be able to understand this so quickly, but he will use his powerful position to unilaterally influence US policy. He is a successful businessman and US statesman, it is not clear what he wants to achieve by cutting off aid allocated to the weakest countries in the world. He is trying to put the US economy in a stronger position by reducing his country's spending ultimately maybe its not possible. As a result, US sole dominance will continue to decline and poor/developing countries will try to get allocations from other rich countries. There has been a positive discussion on tariffs in the negotiations with China, and it is expected that a permanent solution may be in place.

Most of the decisions that have been made in Trump 100-day program cannot be expected to have good results for the US economy. He went to Saudi Arabia on his first foreign trip and successfully signed an arms sale agreement under which Saudi Arabia will buy $100 billion in weapons. This agreement is also part of the petrodollar.

[EarnOnVictor]

We could see that they are also affected on their reckless act did since USD value is declining. Also we could add up the inflation rate goes high as what I read on the articles spreading tackle up this tariff thing done by US government. With these situation happened I really hope that Trump would realize his mistake done for messing up the good flow of trade market.

It is not a matter of hoping that Trump realises his mistakes, he has indeed realised his mistakes bitterly. That's why he is backing down in many of his ignoble policies like a coward, and also why the financial market is taking the opposite turn compared to when he was daring with his policies, especially with the tariffs.

Only Trump can do what the US president did in his first 100 days in office. I hope the US recovers fully from it Economically, Politically, and in Military alliance.

His departure from his policy means that he had taken a stand against the world and wanted to assert his power and he lose. It may not be obvious to everyone that he will be able to understand this so quickly, but he will use his powerful position to unilaterally influence US policy.

The best word to qualify Trump is "Tyranny," and the guy is so tyrannical to the extent that he was blinded again by his ego. Everybody and the nation must hail Trump and bend the knees to him, that's his mindset, and he thought he could do it in rulership, thinking the US can stand alone against the whole world and survive.

He learned bitterly, which is why he retraced his steps, but I hope this will not have a lasting effect on the US economy, and on its global stance and relationship.