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July 23, 2024, 03:08:23 AM
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People before are doubting on the intention of Trump for supporting bitcoin and many say that its just a political propaganda just to create a hype for his name.

Now that he select a VP which is bitcoiner then that tells everything that Trump is really serious on his bitcoin policy. Now with this tandem we can say that bitcoin would be good in USA. Also for sure those country who adopt bitcoin especially El Salvador will be happy with this development since provably they would earn huge benefits for US becoming a bitcoin or crypto friendly country. Imagine the exposure Bitcoins get for latest USA election this will be huge since it gets global exposure. Bitcoin future is really great with this developments happen.

I wonder if Trump's administration will go as far as backing the USD with BTC? If that happens, one can imagine Bitcoin going all the way to the moon. Trump's first term took a soft stance with crypto. So there's a high possibility the same will happen if he wins the White House again. No crypto supporter would side with the Democratic Party. Especially with enemies such as Elizabeth Warren and Gary Gensler.

The main goal is to remove Uncle Gary from office. And what better way to do by voting for Trump in November? Hopefully, Americans choose wisely for the good of the crypto/Blockchain industry and the country itself. Smiley

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July 23, 2024, 11:55:51 AM
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^^
There had been talk of both Trump and Elon Musk attending the bitcoin conference in two days from now. That Elon Jet tracker account on twitter now known as x located it had landed in Nashville the other day, so you never know.
It also helps their case when his Vice President is a bitcoin holder and has been talking about it since as far back as 2022 from what we had seen so far.
So this presidency looks good for BTC future and even has talk of it being held as a reserve currency under this US administration.
That could have it rise up to $150,000 by the end of the year no problem if elected by November.

As for Gary. Once the Trump comes he will out by 2025 no doubt about this one bit:

source: https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/cryptocurrency-news/sec-chair-gensler-likely-to-resign-early-2025

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July 23, 2024, 04:54:04 PM
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backing the USD with BTC
If you think about what fiat is and how it works you'd realize that this is impossible.

Fiats like USD have an unlimited supply so they can not be backed by anything with a finite supply. In fact that is why they stopped the Bretton Woods system a long time ago!
They are currently printing about a trillion dollar every 100 days. How would they continue this if each dollar is supposed to be backed by anything including BTC? They can't stop creating debt either.

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July 23, 2024, 08:50:00 PM
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Truth told @pooya87
As many have long believed when the US dollar was backed by the gold reserve they never did have that much in their vaults to begin with.
Fort Knox would need to be a size much larger than it was to hold that much gold to fund those trillions of fiat paper notes.

The bitcoin market has been reeling the last few hours since two subjects have arisen due to Trump stating on his own social media platform Truth Network.
He is calling fake news being circulating that he will have Jamie Dimon as treasury secretary:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-23/trump-floats-jamie-dimon-for-treasury-secretary-then-denies-it

Also him having a partnership with CEO of BlackRock right before the elections:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/20/business/the-odd-yet-interesting-choice-of-who-trump-may-tap-to-be-his-treasury-secretary

But denies him being considered for the same position as treasury secretary:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/23/trump-denies-considering-jp-morgans-jamie-dimon-or-blackrocks-larry-fink-for-treasury-secretary

Also another narrative had been denied by him right before his appearance at the bitcoin conference in two days of having bitcoin as part of his administration's strategic reserve asset.

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July 24, 2024, 12:30:59 AM
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^^
There had been talk of both Trump and Elon Musk attending the bitcoin conference in two days from now. That Elon Jet tracker account on twitter now known as x located it had landed in Nashville the other day, so you never know.
It also helps their case when his Vice President is a bitcoin holder and has been talking about it since as far back as 2022 from what we had seen so far.
So this presidency looks good for BTC future and even has talk of it being held as a reserve currency under this US administration.
That could have it rise up to $150,000 by the end of the year no problem if elected by November.

As for Gary. Once the Trump comes he will out by 2025 no doubt about this one bit:
source: https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/cryptocurrency-news/sec-chair-gensler-likely-to-resign-early-2025

Elon Musk attending the BTC conference is going to be huge. It's going to give much needed publicity for the cryptocurrency. Especially when Mr. Musk is the richest man in the world. He already sided with Trump, so victory in the White House for the GOP is certain. With Gary Gensler out of the picture, crypto companies and exchanges can boost their business in America without obstacles. It's likely Bittrex and Binance will make a comeback.

With America rising in crypto/Blockchain tech adoption, one could imagine prices for popular coins like BTC and ETH going all the way to the moon. Elections are only 4 months away. The suspense is killing me, lol. Cheesy

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July 24, 2024, 07:46:22 AM
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He is also too young and without experience while also being very radical and a warmonger who has no understanding of wars and even though he is not even in office he is doing a lot of chest pounding so to speak, a lot more than the previous warmongers in Trump cabinet like Bolton did.

In any case it is always funny to watch "kids" who think reality is like a Hollywood/Marvel movie be given high roles in a government Cheesy
People are emotional, they like it when they see a politician who does lots of chest pounding and people's senses are more heightened when they see a youngster.

Alright, while I initially thought that pretending to be pro-Bitcoin was a temporary political stunt by Trump, I now agree that it's a politically motivated shift but one he might actually stick to after getting elected (if he gets elected). If it's both him and VP, the USA might change its policies and become more crypto-friendly. However, I still hope that when people eligible to vote in these elections choose who to vote for, their main priority won't be crypto stance. Presidency comes with a lot more than that, and even if someone is very pro-Bitcoin, it is still important to ensure that one's views generally align with the Republicans and with Trump's vision specifically.
It's definitely a politically motivated shift but I don't think he will stick to it after getting elected. Did you read his promises? He promises self-custody, total control on Bitcoin for its users and also promises that the USA will save some part of its strategic reserves in Bitcoins. Is there really any government that will allow people financial independence and promote the coin that gives you that freedom if that promise is not temporary and there isn't a bait in it?

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There had been talk of both Trump and Elon Musk attending the bitcoin conference in two days from now. That Elon Jet tracker account on twitter now known as x located it had landed in Nashville the other day, so you never know.
It also helps their case when his Vice President is a bitcoin holder and has been talking about it since as far back as 2022 from what we had seen so far.
So this presidency looks good for BTC future and even has talk of it being held as a reserve currency under this US administration.
That could have it rise up to $150,000 by the end of the year no problem if elected by November.

As for Gary. Once the Trump comes he will out by 2025 no doubt about this one bit:
source: https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/cryptocurrency-news/sec-chair-gensler-likely-to-resign-early-2025
Elon Musk attending the BTC conference is going to be huge. It's going to give much needed publicity for the cryptocurrency. Especially when Mr. Musk is the richest man in the world. He already sided with Trump, so victory in the White House for the GOP is certain. With Gary Gensler out of the picture, crypto companies and exchanges can boost their business in America without obstacles. It's likely Bittrex and Binance will make a comeback.

With America rising in crypto/Blockchain tech adoption, one could imagine prices for popular coins like BTC and ETH going all the way to the moon. Elections are only 4 months away. The suspense is killing me, lol. Cheesy
Watched a video of Musk talking to a journalist yesterday but suddenly it was taken off by youtube and their comments section turned off when I went back to get the link to it.
This was the title:
Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk - Wokeness, Trump, and Technology
He was talking about how he had to move his gigafactory from California to Texas due to the laws they had in place wasn't doing the progress to his business any good.
So they are starting to silence in what he has to say with his siding with the Trump campaign.
In this political climate this is beyond weird.
One of the world's richest men doing a simple interview and they blocked the subjects he was getting into.
Glad I heard it before it was taken down because he explained that what he was giving Trump were not donations but given to the Super PAC and also explained the difference between the regular PAC and what he gave to his campaign.

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July 24, 2024, 11:24:12 PM
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After Kamala Harris was invited to attend the conference of bitcoin in Nashville, it was officially confirmed that she did not respond to the invitation without providing reasons for this. Thus, Donald Trump remains the star of this conference, although all observers stress that it is an opportunity for Harris to clarify her position on Bitcoin and blockchain, after it was confirmed that her campaign had submitted questions to one of the major influencers in the crypto field. Her failure to attend the conference will cause her to lose a large portion of the American electoral base, since two of her competitors will present their visions during the conference.

It is not surprising that Harris avoided attending so that the conference would not turn into an electoral debate, especially since there has been direct criticism between her and Trump since Biden announced his withdrawal from the presidential race and Harris’s popularity advanced at the expense of Trump in the opinion poll results.

Personally, I still do not expect much from this conference, since it has turned from an occasion to discuss visions regarding crypto into a political demonstration within the framework of the candidates’ election campaigns.

In a tweet by conference director David Paley, after he officially announced that Harris would not attend, he stated that Harris must first announce her cooperation in the Silk Road issue before she talks about Bitcoin, stressing that the other candidates, Trump and Kennedy, had agreed to this from day one.

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July 25, 2024, 07:24:15 PM
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Highly doubt she would want to be seen there because it was the Democrat administration which vetoed a bill just recently against bitcoin's progress inwhich Trump stated he will help abolish when back in office.
If he was on point with the bitcoin movement then he will mention this bill that showed Biden thus Kamala is against what all of cryptocurreny and especially bitcoin stands for.

Just wonder why J.D Vance was not invited as being the one who made it public he is a holder of BTC!

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. took the stage at the bitcoin conference yesterday with questioning Trump's pro-crypto stance:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rfk-jr-questions-trumps-recent-pro-crypto-tone-two-vie-votes-2024-07-26

Here is the full video of his speech yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxDMz_KKx0s

Today is the final day so Donald Trump should be there doing a speech to bitcoiners in trying to win their vote for this upcoming election in November.

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July 29, 2024, 03:15:37 PM
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After Kamala Harris was invited to attend the conference of bitcoin in Nashville, it was officially confirmed that she did not respond to the invitation without providing reasons for this. Thus, Donald Trump remains the star of this conference, although all observers stress that it is an opportunity for Harris to clarify her position on Bitcoin and blockchain, after it was confirmed that her campaign had submitted questions to one of the major influencers in the crypto field. Her failure to attend the conference will cause her to lose a large portion of the American electoral base, since two of her competitors will present their visions during the conference.

It is not surprising that Harris avoided attending so that the conference would not turn into an electoral debate, especially since there has been direct criticism between her and Trump since Biden announced his withdrawal from the presidential race and Harris’s popularity advanced at the expense of Trump in the opinion poll results.

Personally, I still do not expect much from this conference, since it has turned from an occasion to discuss visions regarding crypto into a political demonstration within the framework of the candidates’ election campaigns.

In a tweet by conference director David Paley, after he officially announced that Harris would not attend, he stated that Harris must first announce her cooperation in the Silk Road issue before she talks about Bitcoin, stressing that the other candidates, Trump and Kennedy, had agreed to this from day one.

Of course. She wouldn't respond to the invitation. Harris is part of the anti-crypto Biden administration. A vote for her would be a vote against the crypto industry. The only two presidential candidates in favor of Bitcoin are Trump and RFK Jr. Trump is seen as a more favorable candidate, especially with his strong grasp of the GOP (Republican Party). He's positioned himself as more crypto-friendly than RFK Jr.

With a VP pick who has investments in Bitcoin (J.D. Vance), crypto will be set for a bullish run during a second Trump term. I sure hope he wins and does as promised. Who knows what surprises we'll find after the elections? Cheesy

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. took the stage at the bitcoin conference yesterday with questioning Trump's pro-crypto stance:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rfk-jr-questions-trumps-recent-pro-crypto-tone-two-vie-votes-2024-07-26

Here is the full video of his speech yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxDMz_KKx0s

Today is the final day so Donald Trump should be there doing a speech to bitcoiners in trying to win their vote for this upcoming election in November.
4 million Bitcoin in reserves. Wow!
It looks like they are trying hard to get the votes of all the Bitcoin supporters. That's a promise that seems to be so good to be true after all the bashing against Bitcoin from Day 1 through a long time.

Cheaper transfer and non-taxable? Whew! That's going to raise a lot of eyebrows especially those who are working in the government. I'd like to see Gary Gensler of SEC still there when all of this happens. Well, that's if RFK Jr. wins the presidency.
I'd also like to see how Donald Trump could much this offer. It's so sweet but it's hard to believe if it's real and will materialize.

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July 30, 2024, 08:57:18 PM
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After Kamala Harris was invited to attend the conference of bitcoin in Nashville, it was officially confirmed that she did not respond to the invitation without providing reasons for this. Thus, Donald Trump remains the star of this conference, although all observers stress that it is an opportunity for Harris to clarify her position on Bitcoin and blockchain, after it was confirmed that her campaign had submitted questions to one of the major influencers in the crypto field. Her failure to attend the conference will cause her to lose a large portion of the American electoral base, since two of her competitors will present their visions during the conference.

It is not surprising that Harris avoided attending so that the conference would not turn into an electoral debate, especially since there has been direct criticism between her and Trump since Biden announced his withdrawal from the presidential race and Harris’s popularity advanced at the expense of Trump in the opinion poll results.

Personally, I still do not expect much from this conference, since it has turned from an occasion to discuss visions regarding crypto into a political demonstration within the framework of the candidates’ election campaigns.

In a tweet by conference director David Paley, after he officially announced that Harris would not attend, he stated that Harris must first announce her cooperation in the Silk Road issue before she talks about Bitcoin, stressing that the other candidates, Trump and Kennedy, had agreed to this from day one.

Of course. She wouldn't respond to the invitation. Harris is part of the anti-crypto Biden administration. A vote for her would be a vote against the crypto industry. The only two presidential candidates in favor of Bitcoin are Trump and RFK Jr. Trump is seen as a more favorable candidate, especially with his strong grasp of the GOP (Republican Party). He's positioned himself as more crypto-friendly than RFK Jr.


Trump's position cannot be fully trusted unless we first believe that his view of crypto has changed and that his presence at the Bitcoin conference is not just part of the campaign. I do not remember any progress on the crypto file when Trump was in power and there is no indication that his administration is interested in pushing for greater openness in the crypto file.
Kamala Harris's position of refusing to attend the conference seems to me a more credible position and consistent with the policies of her administration. She would have found herself in a debate against her competitors to discuss a file about which she does not have sufficient information. Media articles mention that her campaign management had contacted one of the important influencers in the crypto field to inquire from him after receiving an invitation to attend the conference in Nashville.
I do not want to sound too pessimistic, but I do not expect much from Trump if he wins a new presidential mandate.

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What makes you more for bitcoin than putting it on a piece of clothing and wearing it in public?
How about putting it on a pair of fresh kicks and selling them to show your support for the cryptocurrency?
Trump has done it with these Orange Gold versions of his BTCitcoin BTCoots. Cool

https://x.com/JakeGagain/status/1818904521155965025

Good lord! I would never buy these but some would as part of their 47th president memorabilia collection. Grin

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August 01, 2024, 10:10:32 AM
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What makes you more for bitcoin than putting it on a piece of clothing and wearing it in public?
How about putting it on a pair of fresh kicks and selling them to show your support for the cryptocurrency?
Trump has done it with these Orange Gold versions of his BTCitcoin BTCoots. Cool

https://x.com/JakeGagain/status/1818904521155965025

Good lord! I would never buy these but some would as part of their 47th president memorabilia collection. Grin

Is this a NFT or the real thing? I ain’t paying shit if it is real sneakers. I can pay $2k if it is an NFT. $2.5k is way too overpriced.

I like the style.

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Is this a NFT or the real thing? I ain’t paying shit if it is real sneakers. I can pay $2k if it is an NFT. $2.5k is way too overpriced.

I like the style.
They seem to be the real deal!
The bitcoin limited edition ones were sold out in hours of their release yesterday so that's why the hike up in price from those who are scalping them on ebay as the photo above shows where they were being sold for that humongous price gouge.
They retailed for $499 as the photo below shows the original versions that were not gold but black editions:

https://x.com/JakeGagain/status/1818844172151034144

His promotional team had put out a set of sneakers of his in gold earlier in the year but those were draped in the American flag from what I recall.

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4 million Bitcoin in reserves. Wow!
It looks like they are trying hard to get the votes of all the Bitcoin supporters. That's a promise that seems to be so good to be true after all the bashing against Bitcoin from Day 1 through a long time.

Cheaper transfer and non-taxable? Whew! That's going to raise a lot of eyebrows especially those who are working in the government. I'd like to see Gary Gensler of SEC still there when all of this happens. Well, that's if RFK Jr. wins the presidency.
I'd also like to see how Donald Trump could much this offer. It's so sweet but it's hard to believe if it's real and will materialize.

It's too good to be true. At current market prices, such a reserve would cost the US a hefty investment of $264 billion. National debt is sitting at around $35 trillion, making this impossible. The country needs to fix spending issues first, before considering having its own BTC reserves. Once national debt is off the picture, then we can talk about backing the USD with BTC and whatnot.

At least, we know Trump won't be as hard against crypto as Biden. The current administration has been all about fierce regulations and crackdowns on the industry. Back then when Donald Trump was president, things were going along smoothly for crypto in America. SEC chairman Jay Clayton wasn't as "hostile" as Gary Gensler. Crypto voters will definitely support Trump in these elections. Hope he wins back the White House to make America the cornerstone of crypto innovation. Smiley

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August 02, 2024, 03:14:43 PM
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4 million Bitcoin in reserves. Wow!
It looks like they are trying hard to get the votes of all the Bitcoin supporters. That's a promise that seems to be so good to be true after all the bashing against Bitcoin from Day 1 through a long time.

Cheaper transfer and non-taxable? Whew! That's going to raise a lot of eyebrows especially those who are working in the government. I'd like to see Gary Gensler of SEC still there when all of this happens. Well, that's if RFK Jr. wins the presidency.
I'd also like to see how Donald Trump could much this offer. It's so sweet but it's hard to believe if it's real and will materialize.

It's too good to be true. At current market prices, such a reserve would cost the US a hefty investment of $264 billion. National debt is sitting at around $35 trillion, making this impossible. The country needs to fix spending issues first, before considering having its own BTC reserves. Once national debt is off the picture, then we can talk about backing the USD with BTC and whatnot.

To be fair, I support Trump because I hope he will bring a new breeze, a better future to the cryptocurrency industry. But I think some of the promises are being exaggerated here. Using bitcoin as a national reserve asset is not easy, everything would have to go through 2 houses before being approved by Congress and I don't think this would be successful even if Trump proposed it. Regarding using BTC to support USD, that is even more impossible, a highly volatile asset cannot support a currency that is losing value on a daily basis.
We support Trump but need to be realistic about what can and cannot happen.

At least, we know Trump won't be as hard against crypto as Biden. The current administration has been all about fierce regulations and crackdowns on the industry. Back then when Donald Trump was president, things were going along smoothly for crypto in America. SEC chairman Jay Clayton wasn't as "hostile" as Gary Gensler. Crypto voters will definitely support Trump in these elections. Hope he wins back the White House to make America the cornerstone of crypto innovation. Smiley

This is why I voted for Trump, I don't know if he will really keep his promise or not, but at least as long as he is not tough and does not oppress us like the current administration, then it is win for us.

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August 03, 2024, 06:27:46 PM
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Wow, I had read about the new VP but did not know this aspect. It seems then that Trump's pro-Bitcoin turn is in earnest. In general I don't trust politicians, and if it's on the campaign trail even less but Trump would be neither the first nor will he be the last to change his stance on Bitcoin (remember Saylor, for example). He also received $2 from the Winklevoss twins. But if the VP has personally Bitcoin it seems clear that if he wins with his policies he is going to be favorable to Bitcoin and all that surrounds it. There are also several big name Republicans involved in Bitcoin and the Mining Industry, like Ted Cruz for example.

Republicans for Bitcoin 2024! Spread the word! It brings a whole lot of attention to Bitcoin as the race for the highest office in the world turns now to Bitcoin for more attention by speaking of what they will do and how they plan to embrace it in the future. I love the fact that Trump wants the remaining Bitcoin to be mined in the US! I suggests that he has good intentions for low energy costs and perhaps even tax breaks as well! What wouldn't bitcoin miners like about that!?

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August 05, 2024, 10:31:58 AM
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Since that speech during the Bitcoin Conference stating he will keep bitcoin and never sell.
Guess the democrats wanted to ruin his plans and start selling everything that the U.S government has in their possession since last week when they moved a large amount into two separate wallets.
Hence the price dropping below $52,000 this morning.
Call it the Trump Dump if you will.

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