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July 29, 2024, 08:59:09 AM
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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free. This is something that I will definitely not do, because a real strong player should think only with his own mind, only in this way can you not depend on anyone in your bets. Even if this site stops working or analysts do not post their forecasts. Or one day they can ask for payment for their predictions.

Honestly, I do not want to rely on anyone in life, no matter what it concerns. Although after I make a bet, I can go and read some analysts on this game, but it will no longer affect me, even if there are reasoned arguments for the victory of a certain team.

 
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July 29, 2024, 11:41:21 AM
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Betting on outright matches is probably suitable for you since your personal preference is for long term investment. Betting in outright matches gives you a longer waiting time and increases your cashout amount when your pick keep moving forward close to the championship.

I’m doubtful whether there’s a strategy for buy and hodl applicable for betting since gambling are all for quick phased games.  Most of the gambling strategy will suggest quicker way due to house edge is brutal on longer games.


What are "outright matches"? Are those the sort of bets that make you choose which team will be the champions after a long season? You might have given a good analogy/comparison between a HODLer in trading/investing and gambling/sports betting. 👍

Plus that will require more thorough research, which I actually like. But if I made some bets and those bets are going closer and closer to the championship, I could cash in the betting ticket, no?

You’re right about the overview on outright. Not only choosing team but also players who will get the special award on specific sports such as MVP on Basketball and Golden Boots on football.

Odds in outright is extremely high compared to betting in regular matches since it’s a long shot bet. I remember some user manage to win amount just by betting a couple pf bucks on outright. You have less pressure in outright matches since you are betting on the ending while all the odds even the favorites is still high too.


I change my mind on the comparison between outright matches and HODLing. Because the odds are high during the start of the season, I believe that betting on outright matches are more comparable to gambling on a very low market value memecoin with hope that you will have very high reward for the small risk taken, no?

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July 29, 2024, 05:56:42 PM
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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free.
No matter what’s being said, some people will never listen. I don’t really know why most people still make use of all those prediction sites. The most annoying part is that some people will have to pay money just to get into those groups, and at the end, they won’t really be getting anything serious. With the way some prediction groups make advertisements,  you will know the owner of the group has nothing, and for you to be running a paid prediction provider, you should have enough money, and you shouldn’t be forcing people to make use of your bet prediction.

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July 29, 2024, 06:17:10 PM
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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free.
No matter what’s being said, some people will never listen. I don’t really know why most people still make use of all those prediction sites. The most annoying part is that some people will have to pay money just to get into those groups, and at the end, they won’t really be getting anything serious. With the way some prediction groups make advertisements,  you will know the owner of the group has nothing, and for you to be running a paid prediction provider, you should have enough money, and you shouldn’t be forcing people to make use of your bet prediction.
Usually they don't want to bother with the bets they make, so it's better to use prediction sites to make bets so they don't need to analyze anymore and it's determined from the site, people like this I say lazy people and only win easily from prediction sites.

Usually in the prediction site signal there is an expert in it in making more accurate bets, again I don't believe about this but they will certainly believe because he sees from his knowledge.
But for me this is clearly not profitable at all, occasionally it's okay to use prediction sites to compare but never rely on it because this will clearly not be 100% accurate.

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July 29, 2024, 06:53:48 PM
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Well, in my early days of playing gambling I sometimes rely on predictions of other people and also websites but I notice immediately how those predictions can be a scam and they just say what they want to win or what they think who will win without a basis or standard of their predictions, that's why I dont believe or view those kind of websites. Especially I like betting in sports or sports betting so I rely on my own prediction and on how will I view of who has the higher chance of winning.
So was I.
I also believed that some new gamblers also did the same, because as a newbie on gamble, a lot of things will be strange to you because when you have lost a dime before and you just get to deposit your money and bet then the next few seconds you find out that you have lost your money, it will be strange to you. So at that time as a newbie to gamble you will definitely find a method to get some predictions that you will rely on. But the truth still remains that many of those predictions channels on social medias are not 100% sure. Many of them are just doing it to get followers.











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July 29, 2024, 07:03:41 PM
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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free. This is something that I will definitely not do, because a real strong player should think only with his own mind, only in this way can you not depend on anyone in your bets. Even if this site stops working or analysts do not post their forecasts. Or one day they can ask for payment for their predictions.

Honestly, I do not want to rely on anyone in life, no matter what it concerns. Although after I make a bet, I can go and read some analysts on this game, but it will no longer affect me, even if there are reasoned arguments for the victory of a certain team.
Of course, that's the mindset a real gambler should have. They are confident in their own analysis and they only bet on teams that they think are profitable. Some gamblers who often lose may consider the predictions of other users whether on paid or free channels, but in my opinion they are not true gamblers who really understand the game.

Basically, you will be more confident in betting that you are really interested in. If you tend to like football and understand a lot about it, then you probably won't bet on horse racing or other sports that you are completely unfamiliar with. I'm actually like that, meaning I only bet on anything I really know how to play.

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July 29, 2024, 07:34:40 PM
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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free. This is something that I will definitely not do, because a real strong player should think only with his own mind, only in this way can you not depend on anyone in your bets. Even if this site stops working or analysts do not post their forecasts. Or one day they can ask for payment for their predictions.

Honestly, I do not want to rely on anyone in life, no matter what it concerns. Although after I make a bet, I can go and read some analysts on this game, but it will no longer affect me, even if there are reasoned arguments for the victory of a certain team.
Of course, that's the mindset a real gambler should have. They are confident in their own analysis and they only bet on teams that they think are profitable. Some gamblers who often lose may consider the predictions of other users whether on paid or free channels, but in my opinion they are not true gamblers who really understand the game.

Basically, you will be more confident in betting that you are really interested in. If you tend to like football and understand a lot about it, then you probably won't bet on horse racing or other sports that you are completely unfamiliar with. I'm actually like that, meaning I only bet on anything I really know how to play.
Or simply those are just fraud groups on whos do really really just wanted other peoples sub fees and this is why i dont really that recommend for you to join up into these places on which considering that it is really that not good or something recommended once you do deal up with sports betting. You could really be able to make yourself having rely with your own analysis on which everything could really be searched up into the internet whether you would really be trying out to check things on which it wont really be that hard on doing so. Although its not that bad to see some ideas with these predictions sites thought if there's some analysis been posted on which you could neither see it up whether it would be viable into yours and make additional, but still in the end of the day on which you would really be needing up to consider
on your own choices on which i would be seeing that it would really be more worth and something that will really be ideal on doing so.

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July 30, 2024, 06:52:40 AM
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Never. I have said it before in similar threads, predictions are useless.

I'd rather make my own predictions with the knowledge that I have, if I fail, learn from it, do better next time thus continue to improve over time and make better ones than rely on someone else.


Not all are entirely useless, all that matters is the platform you choose to use and how you decide to use their information, for example if I decide to use forebets prediction for a game and their predicted outcome for that game is 2:1 , I still do my personal analysis before I make my final decision, 2:1 gives you some options to choose from, over 1.5, over 2.5, 1x or straight win , you can select which ever option that's safer according to your statistical analysis, a lot of people make the mistake of just taking the predictions of these platforms straight up without proper research that's why they end up having too many losses

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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free.
No matter what’s being said, some people will never listen. I don’t really know why most people still make use of all those prediction sites. The most annoying part is that some people will have to pay money just to get into those groups, and at the end, they won’t really be getting anything serious. With the way some prediction groups make advertisements,  you will know the owner of the group has nothing, and for you to be running a paid prediction provider, you should have enough money, and you shouldn’t be forcing people to make use of your bet prediction.

They are simply trying to convince those who are unable to decide on a bet on a certain match. Their main goal is to earn money on those players who do not have the inner core to make decisions on their own, who are overcome by doubts. Moreover, I think that those who organize such groups have lost all their money on bets themselves and now have decided to earn again in spite of everything in order to win back, and their conscience allows them to do this to other people. I cannot call it anything else except a real deception.

I believed in this about 10 years ago when I encountered bets, but now it seems ridiculous to me, I will never join any group with forecasts and especially will not pay a single cent for it.

 
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Hi, as match fixing increased after pandemic, how do predictions work?
Is there a way to detect any fishy movement before kick off? Odds go up or down strongly?
Which bet could show us a discrepancy of an initial odd amd the one inmediatly before kick off?
For instance to lay the draw in betfair on every match suspected to be rigged.
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Since we’re both from same country I can relate with what you’re trying to say and your story and just as you already said, I think the man might be trying to draw some sort of attentions to himself and such attentions are mostly for scam purposes and anyone who falls victim is always left to regrets.

One thing I’ve always loved about forum is the fact that, we already forearmed with recent happenings and wouldn’t easily fall victims of silly scams and as a gambler, we should always have at the back of our mind that, no one can accurately predict the outcome of a game that’s why it’s always called prediction and with this knowledge already instilled, I don’t think we would have to fall for every cheap scam.

 
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There was a time I subscribed to a free  prediction site who offered a daily free bet, honestly their daily pick had a consistent winning streaks and the opportunity in further personal analysis of the their daily pick, however most of the odds are very small because of high chances of winning thus unless you stake high to earn reasonable amount of money or roll over those bets which also has it own risk. I also came across prediction sites that advertised and offered fixed matches bets which I believe can't be real because I think owners of those fixed matches betting site ought have stake high with their own money rather than seeking subscribers to their channel.

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Hi, as match fixing increased after pandemic, how do predictions work?
Is there a way to detect any fishy movement before kick off? Odds go up or down strongly?
Which bet could show us a discrepancy of an initial odd amd the one inmediatly before kick off?
For instance to lay the draw in betfair on every match suspected to be rigged.
Anyone knows anything about it?
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With the pandemic, match-fixing has come into larger view. When match-fixing is ongoing, predictions can be hard to make but here are some signs. A drastic change in odds right before kick-off might be a signal of something fishy. One can keep track of the difference between the opening odds and the odds minutes before the game commences on betting exchanges like Betfair for any abnormality. But mind you, it is not 100% safe, and gambling always carries risk.

And although it can be of use to monitor the movement of odds and to work with the information available, let me tell you that there is no sure-safe or sure-certainty thing as a free gambling opportunity. Always remember to wager responsibly and realize the risks you are running.

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I wouldn't say that I "rely" on them at all, or not completely anyhow.  I will use them in a manner where they can help me make decisions or help lean me in one way or another, but I never use them as a be all end all, I leave that up to myself.  I think you can get yourself in trouble for relying on sites like these, and it might put you in situations where you're more apt to place bets when you otherwise wouldn't be.  I don't think thats a very good idea.

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Hi Juse14. Thanks for your reply
As we do not know which matches are fixed but. We suspect of some leagues having some of them, we could bet them all.
Laying the draw 2 hours or more before a kick-off could give us a 4.0 3.5 or similar number.  In case this match is fixed I suppose bettor weigh on one of the teams and move the odds on lay the draw as well.  
As there are plenty of variations to bet(for instance in football, corners , goals, cards etc)
It is just an idea to take advantage of something we did not create.  
As fixed matches tripled in the last 4 years as some online sites said
It matters, because our predictions tools are modified by an external condition disconnected from the actual match study.
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Never. I have said it before in similar threads, predictions are useless.

I'd rather make my own predictions with the knowledge that I have, if I fail, learn from it, do better next time thus continue to improve over time and make better ones than rely on someone else.


Not all are entirely useless, all that matters is the platform you choose to use and how you decide to use their information, for example if I decide to use forebets prediction for a game and their predicted outcome for that game is 2:1 , I still do my personal analysis before I make my final decision, 2:1 gives you some options to choose from, over 1.5, over 2.5, 1x or straight win , you can select which ever option that's safer according to your statistical analysis, a lot of people make the mistake of just taking the predictions of these platforms straight up without proper research that's why they end up having too many losses
What matters too is that they can go wrong and even your wisdom of playing over 2.5 or 1.5 referred invalid. The game they predicted 2:1 can end goal less and you'll wish you booked the games yourself.

I've had scenarios where I had some predictions myself, but resigned to using a well known prediction site's analysis back then and in the end, they were wrong and myself correct, so all these prediction sites are good, but should never be relied on and most times, I go with my own picks since I'm not doing it for funds raising.











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At the moment, I do not use at all to make a bet that was advised to me on a prediction site, whether it is paid or free.
No matter what’s being said, some people will never listen. I don’t really know why most people still make use of all those prediction sites. The most annoying part is that some people will have to pay money just to get into those groups, and at the end, they won’t really be getting anything serious. With the way some prediction groups make advertisements,  you will know the owner of the group has nothing, and for you to be running a paid prediction provider, you should have enough money, and you shouldn’t be forcing people to make use of your bet prediction.
Those prediction sites are not out rightly bad if you know how to use them. You must not play exactly as they put them but you can make some adjustments to reflect what you think about the matches they have predicted. For instance, you can double chance a team they gave direct win to increase the odd in your favor or you can play over1.5 for a match they predicted both teams to score or over 2.5, this will increase your chances of being correct although with a reduced odd. You can even remove some matches and bet those you are sure will work. It is all about understanding how to use the prediction sites.











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August 01, 2024, 07:54:38 AM
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Hi Juse14. Thanks for your reply
As we do not know which matches are fixed but. We suspect of some leagues having some of them, we could bet them all.
Laying the draw 2 hours or more before a kick-off could give us a 4.0 3.5 or similar number.  In case this match is fixed I suppose bettor weigh on one of the teams and move the odds on lay the draw as well.  
As there are plenty of variations to bet(for instance in football, corners , goals, cards etc)
It is just an idea to take advantage of something we did not create.  
As fixed matches tripled in the last 4 years as some online sites said
It matters, because our predictions tools are modified by an external condition disconnected from the actual match study.

Betting on every game by placing a draw strategy a few hours before kick-off might seem appetizing, particularly if you feel the game is fixed. But remember it is still a very high risk and not guaranteed to end up positive. Variations in such bets like corners, goals and cards may also throw up opportunities but caution is still required. The outcome of a match can also be affected by some external conditions such as player injury or weather changes. It is therefore very important to have news monitored for you and analyzed from reputable sources.

Another way to spread risk is by employing several types of bets. However, always ensure that you gamble only with money you can afford to lose and be prudent in your bets. Even though predictions tools may be used, they should be used together with current information and analysis for better accuracy.

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As you do not know for sure which matches are fixed you must bet every match of this league and wait
The less expensive and difficult way is to testnit 1x2 instead of cards, corners, shots, others
Some leagues are more suspected , India, China, serbia
 
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As you do not know for sure which matches are fixed you must bet every match of this league and wait

What do you mean by fixed? If you have information about a fixed game, you don't need to bet on a lot of games since a fixed game already guarantees a profit. Honestly, if I had the capability to know a fixed game, I would just put all my money on that single game and enjoy a huge profit. Unfortunately, sometimes we are just speculating about it when, in fact, there's no fixed game or information is not available to us.

As a gambler, if we really want to be profitable in the long run, we have to rely on our own personal handicapping skills, not looking for fixed games because that's only short-term. When you develop your skills, you'll be able to grow your bankroll, although gradually, but in a consistent manner.

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