Lautauro Martinez for Ballon D’or Vs Vini and others

[Jawhead999]

If we talking about Ballon D’or winner lists i have to says Laliga players were dominate this award and since 2009 until 2022 the winner of this award is came from the players from Laliga teams which usually from Barcelona or Real Madrid even on 2023 this award goes to Lionel Messi which he is the former player of Barcelona and about Serie A players indeed last time who win Ballon D’or is AC Milan player Ricardo Kaka on 2007 and since that Serie A players were never able to gets the trophy from this award

Serie A's prime happened in 2002-2006
La Liga's prime happened in 2008-2017
Premier League's prime happened in 2018-2022

Only both La Liga and Premier League teams can survive, Serie A is always like a second tier league if judge based on international match.

BTW, what about Messi current chances, do you think he still has a chance to win the Ballon d'Or the ninth?

Ngl, seeing Messi really not deserved to be in this picture, the medias include him because we know there are many Messi's fans out there, same like Ronaldo. If they both are included in Ballon d'Or candidates, even the chance is almost zero, they will include Messi and Ronaldo on the thumbnail.

[hd49728]

Serie A's prime happened in 2002-2006
La Liga's prime happened in 2008-2017
Premier League's prime happened in 2018-2022

I agree with Serie A and La Liga primes but disagree on Premier League prime. The Champions League title of Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City recent seasons are not enough to cover bad performances of other clubs from Premier League. Recent seasons, there are surprising rises from Italian clubs and during same time, clubs from Premier League shown their problems.

Premier League have good clubs, rich and strong but they are still have many things to do for dominating Europe.
La Liga had golden era with domination of Barcelona and Real Madrid, it's impressive but it's hard to repeat by Premier League clubs.

[Frankolala]

Serie A's prime happened in 2002-2006
La Liga's prime happened in 2008-2017
Premier League's prime happened in 2018-2022

I agree with Serie A and La Liga primes but disagree on Premier League prime. The Champions League title of Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City recent seasons are not enough to cover bad performances of other clubs from Premier League. Recent seasons, there are surprising rises from Italian clubs and during same time, clubs from Premier League shown their problems.

Premier League have good clubs, rich and strong but they are still have many things to do for dominating Europe.
La Liga had golden era with domination of Barcelona and Real Madrid, it's impressive but it's hard to repeat by Premier League clubs.

If you look at Premier League clubs currently, it is different from when years back that it use to be the best and strongest league to watch and you can see that in their performance but currently, most of those big clubs like Liverpool, Manchester united and Chelsea have lost their strengths because of some reasons best known to the clubs.

Only Manchester city is keeping to their quality and improving their strength which makes me see that it is only them that can make things happen in European competitions from England, the rest clubs have declined in quality and that is why England clubs are finding it difficult to dominate European competitions currently. Look at the two semifinals in UCL and Europa League non of England clubs was present.

EPL is not competitive anymore and only Arsenal is still keeping to their name as a big club.

[Weawant]

Been the most mentioned or talked about isn't a guarantee you are going to win the title, to think meeting up with all of the requirements is what determines for sure who eventually gets crownes with the ballin di'or, vinicius has got a whole lot ranging from his performance and awards and he's a very young player aswell which I see as an edge, almost same applies to Bellingham.

In your argument that Martinez has got more personal award than any of the nominated players, you have a very valid point but I don't think that's all that is to meeting up to be chosen as the possible winner of the award so away from personal awards he should be sure to meet up other requirements and that will be his edge over others to get the award.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I dunno why I feel really weird towards the selections of players for the ballon D'ors awards.. The era of two rivals has only done more harm than good; creating a huge gap between what was perceived a "complete players", thereby making it impossible to find a record fit for a distinction.

It's like forcefully fitting a square peg in a round hole -- it can never be in shape anymore. Lautauro Martinez - judging from his performances in the copa america, and club/individual awards isn't qualified for the award.

[Catenaccio]

This year Ballon d'Or has a majority of young players as candidates

BTW, what about Messi current chances, do you think he still has a chance to win the Ballon d'Or the ninth?

It is very surprising to see Messi in the list of very best candidates for Ballon d'Or this year. It's not surprising to see Jude Bellingham, Vinicius Junior, Lautaro Martinez, Rodri in the list, but Messi is not deserved to appear in the list.

If Messi wins Ballon d'Or this time, it is a big scandal in football because honestly he does not deserve to win it this year. Transition time of Messi - Ronaldo era is coming to ending and now it is beginning of new era with new young star players, Jude, Vini, Yamal and more to compete for Ballon d'Or award.

Messi is a great player but this year, it's better for football if the winner of Ballon d'Or is someone else.

[aipercoin]

Lautauro Martinez was serie A best player and highest goal scorer last season.
He Won the Italian Super Cup
Won the Serie A
Won Copa America and was the highest goal scorer.
He has more individual award than Vinicius jnr or any other player on the list and also has some good trophies.
Based on the criteria for ballon D’or as the overall golden ball he’s the best candidate but sadly he’s not been talked about enough.

Please what has Vinicius jnr or Jude Bellingham got over him (if you say UCL he has National Trophy)
Vinicius and Jude Bellingham both have
1.La Liga
2.UEFA Champions League
3.Super cup
I don’t think any of them have any individual awards, so why are they the most talked about.

Oh but look, who cares about individual prizes, we only care about who is the most talked about on social media and on stakeouts.  And anyway, who is Jude Bellingham, a relative of the bell ringer?  Vinicius jnr on the other hand is the latest cry, maybe he takes selfies with the Champions League trophy while eating pizza.  But Martinez, how many things he has won, but you know, in Rome those who win the Golden Balls are always the politicians.

[junder]

This year Ballon d'Or has a majority of young players as candidates

BTW, what about Messi current chances, do you think he still has a chance to win the Ballon d'Or the ninth?

Is that true, am I just dreaming of seeing Lionel Messi enter as the best candidate for the Ballon d'Or, if this year Lionel Messi gets the Ballon d'Or, there will definitely be many questions that come out of my mind, Messi's era is over and there should be no need to include him in the list of the best Ballon d'Or winners this year, and give the opportunity to young players who are currently in their golden age, it makes sense if Vini wins the Ballon d'Or this year, seeing the performance shown during the two seasons with Real Madrid, with the achievements he has achieved, and for Jude Belingham maybe this year is not the time to win the award, next year it might come true,

[hd49728]

If you look at Premier League clubs currently, it is different from when years back that it use to be the best and strongest league to watch and you can see that in their performance but currently, most of those big clubs like Liverpool, Manchester united and Chelsea have lost their strengths because of some reasons best known to the clubs.

Clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United are in crisis and they need time to resolve their own crises but meanwhile, it affects competitiveness of Premier League representatives in Champions League too. Chelsea shown some good performances in late of past season and if they can continue it in this season, they will return to top four of Premier League and can help the league competitiveness in Champions League in 2025 - 2026 season.

Manchester United did not show any good signal to end their crisis and they have more things to do than Chelsea in a new season.

Only Manchester city is keeping to their quality and improving their strength which makes me see that it is only them that can make things happen in European competitions from England, the rest clubs have declined in quality and that is why England clubs are finding it difficult to dominate European competitions currently. Look at the two semifinals in UCL and Europa League non of England clubs was present.

EPL is not competitive anymore and only Arsenal is still keeping to their name as a big club.

Manchester City and Arsenal are best representatives of Premier League but Champions League is very competitive and unpredictable. We already saw that Manchester City had to spend a lot of money, many seasons to win their first title. Arsenal are improving themselves but winning Champions League is not easy and to enhance score of the league in European ranking, it needs more clubs from Premier League to do their jobs well in Europa League and Conference League too.