Trump's promise to dump federal regulations

[BADecker]

One question torments me, will Trump help Ukraine?

The question is, what is help?

Certainly Biden and the Deep State didn't help Ukraine. Look at the more than half million dead and wounded Ukraine Troops. And Ukraine hasn't won any of its land back that Russia took. Help will have to be something other than funding and armament gifts.

Personally, I think that the best help would be negotiations. And Zelensky seems to be accepting of a Trump peace negotiation, where he wasn't accepting of simply meeting with Putin to make peace.

[Kavelj22]

One question torments me, will Trump help Ukraine?

The question is, what is help?

I think there were no intentions from the beginning to support Ukraine indefinitely. NATO wanted to benefit from Ukraine by involving it in a war with the Russian bear regardless of the results. That means either Ukraine wins and we defeat Russia with limited capabilities and minimal losses, or the war is financed to last as long as possible, which will certainly weaken Russia. We were sure of this when we saw the massive American support for the Netanyahu government in a war that was supposed to be much easier than the Ukrainian war. The volume of American aid to Israel exceeded the whole aid provided by all Western countries combined to Ukraine. Today, the best assistance that can be provided to Ukraine is to support peace negotiations efforts and save what can be saved from the lands seized by Russia. If the situation continues as it is, I would not be surprised if Russia could enter Kiev soon and annex all of Ukraine, or expand its military campaign to include other countries within the European Union. This is not at all unlikely, after several countries expressed their fears of the Russian invasion extending to areas outside Ukraine (Poland, for example).

[BADecker]

One question torments me, will Trump help Ukraine?

The question is, what is help?

I think there were no intentions from the beginning to support Ukraine indefinitely. NATO wanted to benefit from Ukraine by involving it in a war with the Russian bear regardless of the results. That means either Ukraine wins and we defeat Russia with limited capabilities and minimal losses, or the war is financed to last as long as possible, which will certainly weaken Russia. We were sure of this when we saw the massive American support for the Netanyahu government in a war that was supposed to be much easier than the Ukrainian war. The volume of American aid to Israel exceeded the whole aid provided by all Western countries combined to Ukraine. Today, the best assistance that can be provided to Ukraine is to support peace negotiations efforts and save what can be saved from the lands seized by Russia. If the situation continues as it is, I would not be surprised if Russia could enter Kiev soon and annex all of Ukraine, or expand its military campaign to include other countries within the European Union. This is not at all unlikely, after several countries expressed their fears of the Russian invasion extending to areas outside Ukraine (Poland, for example).

Right. The whole idea is what it has been for decades. Steal Russian lands for their natural resources. Ukraine was simply a way to attempt to do it.

If real help for Ukraine would help to steal Russia, then Ukraine would have received real help. As it is, Ukraine is expendable.

[Kavelj22]

One question torments me, will Trump help Ukraine?

The question is, what is help?

I think there were no intentions from the beginning to support Ukraine indefinitely. NATO wanted to benefit from Ukraine by involving it in a war with the Russian bear regardless of the results. That means either Ukraine wins and we defeat Russia with limited capabilities and minimal losses, or the war is financed to last as long as possible, which will certainly weaken Russia. We were sure of this when we saw the massive American support for the Netanyahu government in a war that was supposed to be much easier than the Ukrainian war. The volume of American aid to Israel exceeded the whole aid provided by all Western countries combined to Ukraine. Today, the best assistance that can be provided to Ukraine is to support peace negotiations efforts and save what can be saved from the lands seized by Russia. If the situation continues as it is, I would not be surprised if Russia could enter Kiev soon and annex all of Ukraine, or expand its military campaign to include other countries within the European Union. This is not at all unlikely, after several countries expressed their fears of the Russian invasion extending to areas outside Ukraine (Poland, for example).

Right. The whole idea is what it has been for decades. Steal Russian lands for their natural resources. Ukraine was simply a way to attempt to do it.

If real help for Ukraine would help to steal Russia, then Ukraine would have received real help. As it is, Ukraine is expendable.

At the beginning of the war, the possibility of Russia winning the war with Ukraine was not likely; but now it seems possible. This indicates the difficulty of the Ukrainian problem because the Russians view it from a zero-sum perspective, as do the West. Therefore a gain for one is a major loss for the other and thus the war will remain attritional. The more Russia advances on the front, the more the West increases its military and logistical support for Ukraine, and the balance of power will be adjusted with the blood of the Russians and Ukrainians.

The West believes that is required to drain Russia, not defeat it. Because defeat will push the Russian leadership further into the arms of China, and thus the problem for the West will become doubled and more dangerous. In contrast, Putin believes that Russia is strong, and no one can defeat it, and that its security demands must be met, otherwise the war will continue. He warned his citizens in his speech that military factories are operating at maximum capacity, that the country lives on a war economy and grows annually, and that the confrontation is fateful.

[BADecker]

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Right. The whole idea is what it has been for decades. Steal Russian lands for their natural resources. Ukraine was simply a way to attempt to do it.

If real help for Ukraine would help to steal Russia, then Ukraine would have received real help. As it is, Ukraine is expendable.

At the beginning of the war, the possibility of Russia winning the war with Ukraine was not likely; but now it seems possible. This indicates the difficulty of the Ukrainian problem because the Russians view it from a zero-sum perspective, as do the West. Therefore a gain for one is a major loss for the other and thus the war will remain attritional. The more Russia advances on the front, the more the West increases its military and logistical support for Ukraine, and the balance of power will be adjusted with the blood of the Russians and Ukrainians.

The West believes that is required to drain Russia, not defeat it. Because defeat will push the Russian leadership further into the arms of China, and thus the problem for the West will become doubled and more dangerous. In contrast, Putin believes that Russia is strong, and no one can defeat it, and that its security demands must be met, otherwise the war will continue. He warned his citizens in his speech that military factories are operating at maximum capacity, that the country lives on a war economy and grows annually, and that the confrontation is fateful.

Russia won most of what it wanted right at the beginning of the war... the Black Sea corridor.

The other thing that it wanted was Ukraine to start acting peacefully, especially with its citizens. And of course, get the US and Nato out of the area.

If the US/Nato/Ukraine had not militarized to fight Russia, the war would have been over long ago... like within the first two months.

Russia doesn't want to conquer Ukraine. However, because of the attitude of Ukraine, Russia might want to conquer it just to bring peace.

[TwitchySeal]

Russia won most of what it wanted right at the beginning of the war... the Black Sea corridor.

How's Russia doing in the black sea in BADeckerville today?  In the real world Russias entire black sea fleet had to retreat from Crimea over the past year after suffering heavy losses - with the last ship leaving just a couple weeks ago.

Pretty astonishing when you consider Russia was said to have the most powerful Navy in the world, and Ukraine basically doesn't have a Navy.

From October 2023:

Putin’s fleet retreats: Ukraine is winning the Battle of the Black Sea


From last week:

Victory at Sea: Russia’s Last Warship Retreats From Crimea in Win for Ukraine, With Land War at Impasse

[BADecker]

Russia won most of what it wanted right at the beginning of the war... the Black Sea corridor.

How's Russia doing in the black sea in BADeckerville today?  In the real world Russias entire black sea fleet had to retreat from Crimea over the past year after suffering heavy losses - with the last ship leaving just a couple weeks ago.

Pretty astonishing when you consider Russia was said to have the most powerful Navy in the world, and Ukraine basically doesn't have a Navy.

From October 2023:

Putin’s fleet retreats: Ukraine is winning the Battle of the Black Sea


From last week:

Victory at Sea: Russia’s Last Warship Retreats From Crimea in Win for Ukraine, With Land War at Impasse

Dumping Federal regs will allow all kinds of American entrepreneurs to go to the Black Sea and start trading with Russia.

[Kavelj22]

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Right. The whole idea is what it has been for decades. Steal Russian lands for their natural resources. Ukraine was simply a way to attempt to do it.

If real help for Ukraine would help to steal Russia, then Ukraine would have received real help. As it is, Ukraine is expendable.

At the beginning of the war, the possibility of Russia winning the war with Ukraine was not likely; but now it seems possible. This indicates the difficulty of the Ukrainian problem because the Russians view it from a zero-sum perspective, as do the West. Therefore a gain for one is a major loss for the other and thus the war will remain attritional. The more Russia advances on the front, the more the West increases its military and logistical support for Ukraine, and the balance of power will be adjusted with the blood of the Russians and Ukrainians.

The West believes that is required to drain Russia, not defeat it. Because defeat will push the Russian leadership further into the arms of China, and thus the problem for the West will become doubled and more dangerous. In contrast, Putin believes that Russia is strong, and no one can defeat it, and that its security demands must be met, otherwise the war will continue. He warned his citizens in his speech that military factories are operating at maximum capacity, that the country lives on a war economy and grows annually, and that the confrontation is fateful.

Russia won most of what it wanted right at the beginning of the war... the Black Sea corridor.

The other thing that it wanted was Ukraine to start acting peacefully, especially with its citizens. And of course, get the US and Nato out of the area.

If the US/Nato/Ukraine had not militarized to fight Russia, the war would have been over long ago... like within the first two months.

Russia doesn't want to conquer Ukraine. However, because of the attitude of Ukraine, Russia might want to conquer it just to bring peace.

Russia has been somewhat successful in adapting to the war economy and finding sufficient resources to continue the military campaign. It knows that NATO does not want to enter into a direct military confrontation with it and that Ukraine remains a battlefield. NATO may not have taken into account that Russia would benefit from the resources it would obtain from the areas it occupied.

The scene is expected to change after the upcoming presidential elections in the United States, as Trump's victory will present many scenarios. Currently, all the countries supporting Ukraine are pushing for negotiations to reach a solution in which there is no winner in the war. If Trump wins, he may push further in this direction due to his (personal) closeness to Russia, and I would not be surprised if he completely stops supporting Ukraine, leaving it to face an unknown fate.

[BADecker]

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Right. The whole idea is what it has been for decades. Steal Russian lands for their natural resources. Ukraine was simply a way to attempt to do it.

If real help for Ukraine would help to steal Russia, then Ukraine would have received real help. As it is, Ukraine is expendable.

At the beginning of the war, the possibility of Russia winning the war with Ukraine was not likely; but now it seems possible. This indicates the difficulty of the Ukrainian problem because the Russians view it from a zero-sum perspective, as do the West. Therefore a gain for one is a major loss for the other and thus the war will remain attritional. The more Russia advances on the front, the more the West increases its military and logistical support for Ukraine, and the balance of power will be adjusted with the blood of the Russians and Ukrainians.

The West believes that is required to drain Russia, not defeat it. Because defeat will push the Russian leadership further into the arms of China, and thus the problem for the West will become doubled and more dangerous. In contrast, Putin believes that Russia is strong, and no one can defeat it, and that its security demands must be met, otherwise the war will continue. He warned his citizens in his speech that military factories are operating at maximum capacity, that the country lives on a war economy and grows annually, and that the confrontation is fateful.

Russia won most of what it wanted right at the beginning of the war... the Black Sea corridor.

The other thing that it wanted was Ukraine to start acting peacefully, especially with its citizens. And of course, get the US and Nato out of the area.

If the US/Nato/Ukraine had not militarized to fight Russia, the war would have been over long ago... like within the first two months.

Russia doesn't want to conquer Ukraine. However, because of the attitude of Ukraine, Russia might want to conquer it just to bring peace.

Russia has been somewhat successful in adapting to the war economy and finding sufficient resources to continue the military campaign. It knows that NATO does not want to enter into a direct military confrontation with it and that Ukraine remains a battlefield. NATO may not have taken into account that Russia would benefit from the resources it would obtain from the areas it occupied.

The scene is expected to change after the upcoming presidential elections in the United States, as Trump's victory will present many scenarios. Currently, all the countries supporting Ukraine are pushing for negotiations to reach a solution in which there is no winner in the war. If Trump wins, he may push further in this direction due to his (personal) closeness to Russia, and I would not be surprised if he completely stops supporting Ukraine, leaving it to face an unknown fate.

I don't believe Trump is especially close to Russia. His wife is Ukrainian, isn't she? Trump is simply business, and now he has learned to be a politician, too.

Why conquer Russia when doing business with her provides the same results? You can get almost anything American right now in Russia, on the black market if nowhere else, but mostly right out in the store, but under a different name than the US seller.

I mean, who cares if it's a crooked Russian, Ukrainian, or American businessman? Don't conquer. Conquering costs money. Do business with whomever is there.

[Vod]

Not talking about driving. Talking about traveling by right.

You own the comb in your pocket. You take the comb from point A to point B. Travel by right.

You own your car. You take your car from point A to point B. Travel by right. No driving involved.

You can travel, but driving is a privilege.   If you want to pay a tow truck driver to move your car from point A to point B, you would be stupid.   Sell the car, or get a license to drive.   Just remember that the highways are federal property and you need a license to access them.   No one is stopping you from towing your car across America. 

[Hispo]

Now that alledgedly Donald Trump has talked wonders about Bitcoin and he is alledgedly planning to make the United States to be a super power of Bitcoin and also hold Bitcoin as reserve, makes me wonder how tough he would actually be in terms of crypto regulation.
It is a thing to be pro Bitcoin and believing there is a true value in decentralization, however, it is a completely different one to lax cryptocurrency regulations allowing scams and con artists to get into the market easier, messing with others money in order for them to profit. Keeping in mind how Trump is a business person who will try to capitalize Bitcoin for his own advantage, I don't think he will go much beyond accepting BTC for donations and keeping BTC ETFs in the market. If he manages to get into the presidency, he will have many other things to worry about which are unrelated to Bitcoin and crypto...

[Vod]

Now that alledgedly Donald Trump has talked wonders about Bitcoin and he is alledgedly planning to make the United States to be a super power of Bitcoin and also hold Bitcoin as reserve, makes me wonder how tough he would actually be in terms of crypto regulation.

Hey Hispo, maybe you can answer this one question I've never been able to get an answer to.

What happens if China puts up millions of miners overnight and takes over 51% of the processing power?

[Hispo]

Now that alledgedly Donald Trump has talked wonders about Bitcoin and he is alledgedly planning to make the United States to be a super power of Bitcoin and also hold Bitcoin as reserve, makes me wonder how tough he would actually be in terms of crypto regulation.

Hey Hispo, maybe you can answer this one question I've never been able to get an answer to.

What happens if China puts up millions of miners overnight and takes over 51% of the processing power?

I guess integrity and trust on the Blockchain and the decentralization behind it would be at stake. Actually, I recall that being one of the most tangible fears of people about the fragility of decentralization of the main network back in 2019-2020, when China still allowed miners to openly operate in their territory and using their cheap electricity.
though, I must add Vod, I am not an expert on Bitcoin whatsoever and this sounds rather like a topic to be discussed with people who have more knowledge on Proof of Work protocols than I do.
When comes to Bitcoin, I know what it takes for me to carry out transactions, sign messages ans check the fair fee to pay on the mempool. I don't even know how to code.

Sorry if it was not the long explanation and answer you were seeking, by the way. To me,.it seems it is taken for granted miners also have a stake in the network and hence, they act in good faith...

[Vod]

To me,.it seems it is taken for granted miners also have a stake in the network and hence, they act in good faith...

I agree with you, and I believe that's why the Chinese government simply hasn't taken over bitcoin.  The damage to their environment not withstanding, they only have so many rare earths to go around, and they don't want to waste them on something that has as much value as a tulip.  :/

That is another reason the Dump could never be president again.  He'll cut China off from US chips then cluelessly visit the Taiwan chip factories, sitting idle because they have no resources.

China currently supplies 97 percent of global rare earth metal demand, and 100 percent of heavy rare earth metals such as terbium and dysprosium, used in wind turbines.

[BADecker]

To me,.it seems it is taken for granted miners also have a stake in the network and hence, they act in good faith...

I agree with you, and I believe that's why the Chinese government simply hasn't taken over bitcoin.  The damage to their environment not withstanding, they only have so many rare earths to go around, and they don't want to waste them on something that has as much value as a tulip.  :/

That is another reason the Dump could never be president again.  He'll cut China off from US chips then cluelessly visit the Taiwan chip factories, sitting idle because they have no resources.

China currently supplies 97 percent of global rare earth metal demand, and 100 percent of heavy rare earth metals such as terbium and dysprosium, used in wind turbines.

Seems like Bitcoin has been taken over, and the controllers won't let it get much higher than it is already.

However, if people thought that Btc was controlled, they would jump into altcoins if they didn't like it. Many have jumped anyway.

When Trump deregulates things, we will see if Bitcoin is worth it... strong enough to last.

[defaced]

Fuuuuuck man why are bitcoiners making bitcoin look so gd weird all the time. This entire thread is weird.

"you dont need a license to drive" wtf you absolutely do.

Thats some weird sov cit nonsense.

As long as there is a state with a monopoly on violence youre under their laws. Everyone is going to fucking laugh at your weird ass if you try to pseudo-legalese your way out of a ticket.

[defaced]

To me,.it seems it is taken for granted miners also have a stake in the network and hence, they act in good faith...

I agree with you, and I believe that's why the Chinese government simply hasn't taken over bitcoin.  The damage to their environment not withstanding, they only have so many rare earths to go around, and they don't want to waste them on something that has as much value as a tulip.  :/

That is another reason the Dump could never be president again.  He'll cut China off from US chips then cluelessly visit the Taiwan chip factories, sitting idle because they have no resources.

China currently supplies 97 percent of global rare earth metal demand, and 100 percent of heavy rare earth metals such as terbium and dysprosium, used in wind turbines.

Seems like Bitcoin has been taken over, and the controllers won't let it get much higher than it is already.

However, if people thought that Btc was controlled, they would jump into altcoins if they didn't like it. Many have jumped anyway.

When Trump deregulates things, we will see if Bitcoin is worth it... strong enough to last.

I feel like you havnt been let in on the secret bro.

Everyone in bitcoin knows Trump is bad for everything. Thats why they want trump. He is an accelerationist. They are banking that he will fuck everything up driving up the demand of Bitcoin.

[Vod]

They are banking that he will fuck everything up driving up the demand of Bitcoin.

That's the paradox.   Bitcoin relies on stable power and communication.   When things get fucked up, people will notice they can't access their coin or the prices are fluctuating even more because of large mining operations browning out.   It might even be this month that people will choose AC over mining.

[BADecker]

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Seems like Bitcoin has been taken over, and the controllers won't let it get much higher than it is already.

However, if people thought that Btc was controlled, they would jump into altcoins if they didn't like it. Many have jumped anyway.

When Trump deregulates things, we will see if Bitcoin is worth it... strong enough to last.

I feel like you havnt been let in on the secret bro.

Everyone in bitcoin knows Trump is bad for everything. Thats why they want trump. He is an accelerationist. They are banking that he will fuck everything up driving up the demand of Bitcoin.

But the Trump past experience as President shows that he is good for almost everything. He has even come up on the side of Bitcoin, lately.

But imagine that Trump is bad. Just look at the million or more people killed, and the loads of others that were maimed, in Ukraine, Russia, and the Middle East... not because of Trump, but because of the alternative.

Is that what you really want?