Are Israelis starting to smell a rat?

[PrimeHunter2023]

Oct 7 an attack on an Israeli concert venue that many people suspect was an Israeli 'false flag' pretext for expansion, but which others believe may have been organized in Europe.

March 22 an attack on a concert venue in Moscow that had unmistakeable British fingerprints.

Hard to put together, except for one bit of context.

The West is in rapid decline vs Asia, particularly China, and its main strategy going forward has been to create regional blocs and alliances that might slow China's expansion.

Most important of these new blocs of course is the Arab Middle East with Muslim close allies like Iran.

That 'new' Middle East does not include Israel, of course. Something Israelis have been slow to perceive.

Why have Israelis been slow to see what is bearing down on them?

A powerful group **cough** chabad **cough** has been assisting the UK and Russia in possibly the only thing those two countries agree on.

So now this article in Israeli media

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-811255

The appearance seems to be that Israelis are slowly starting to wake up.

[PrimeHunter2023]

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Very detailed generalities, have to wonder if you are a) a chatbot or b) a college graduate. Hard to distinguish, but either way you make more money than I, and that's what counts.

[DerAlte]

I'm afraid Israel will have to fight for a long time... Iran is on the way.

[PrimeHunter2023]

I'm afraid Israel will have to fight for a long time... Iran is on the way.

Israel's enemies are not what threaten it.

At any rate, probably not "a long time". It would be surprising if the state of Israel, as it is now, exists in 8 months. Chabad has been preparing to administer a small Jewish colony, after the upcoming "Zionist Naqba", and all the superpowers are on board. If Chabad is not in full control of a demilitarized European 'Jewish' state by next spring it will be cause to add another candle to the menorah.

There is no problem here with eliminating the state. The problem is the predictable carnage that is obviously necessary for the 'unified Middle East' that the superpowers have been carefully arranging.

Most Israelis do not know that their 'intelligence' apparatus is fully run by London.

A second problem is that the careful strategy completely ignores human nature, supposing that the 'Asian' powers ascending will somehow be immune from the types of misbehavior that ruined the West.

[goldkingcoiner]

This topic belongs in Politics and Society.

[Hispo]

I'm afraid Israel will have to fight for a long time... Iran is on the way.

Also depends much of how the next government of the United States decides to deal with Iran as an adversary of Israel. The United States had .managed to get Teheran to sign up on a non-nuclear proliferation treaty, so Iran would have not evolved into being a nuclear power in the region and threaten the existence of Israel, but unfortunately, that treaty was ripped off by the government of Donald's Trump.
Israel will have to face much time of defense against the  offensive of their foes, no doubt about it.
If the USA withdraws support from Israel, then the problems would start to pile up against Tel Aviv.

[PrimeHunter2023]

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If the USA withdraws support from Israel, then the problems would start to pile up against Tel Aviv.

The broader problem for Israel is that it is in the strategic interests of the West to eliminate the state of Israel so a unified Arab/Muslim bloc, including Iran, can counterbalance Asia.

So at the highest strategic level Western governments have been carefully sabotaging Israel.

Israelis of course are known for two things 1) exaggerating the number of Nobel prizes they win and 2) Hubris.

So no matter what happens they remain convinced that the public supports them. Never mind that the support is at virtual gunpoint. A young fellow recently got 10 years in prison for making songs that offended Zionists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bond_(musician)

Watching how the sabotage of Israel has been developing, it's unlikely that state will exist one year from now in its current form.

My objection is not to the elimination of the state, but to the high number of casualties that are likely. For various reasons this strategic shift succeeds most easily if there is a very high casualty rate on both sides i.e., lots of dead Pals followed by lots of dead Zionoids. Hence the post.

[natotech]

Glory to Israel! I hope they will succeed!

[BADecker]

Seems that US forces - 12 warships - are being deployed to the Middle East to help Israel.


Col Doug Macgregor: US Deploys 12 Warships in Middle East - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1mFM8QSGIM

[PrimeHunter2023]

Seems that US forces - 12 warships - are being deployed to the Middle East to help Israel.


Col Doug Macgregor: US Deploys 12 Warships in Middle East - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1mFM8QSGIM

You are making the same mistake as most people.

The U.S. ultimately is subordinate to the UK in its global strategy. Maybe hard to believe but it is still true.

The British have an overwhelming strategic motive to see the state of Israel in its current form gone. They have been clever about creating a Muslim bloc, and the implementation is picking up steam.

The state of Israel will not exist in its current form in 7 months.

My guess is that after a mass slaughter of Israelis Chabad will be given authority over an unarmed zionist state.

That preserves a European outpost in Palestine in such a was as to not threaten growing Muslim unity.

UK strategists have been trying to create a global Muslim bloc to contain China, and have cleverly gotten the Israelis to believe they were behind all the mischief.

[Mariannalik]

Now the tedious waiting has begun, they say the attack will begin any day now. I hope Israel will repel everything as it should and deal a crushing blow to the terrorists!

[PrimeHunter2023]

Now the tedious waiting has begun, they say the attack will begin any day now. I hope Israel will repel everything as it should and deal a crushing blow to the terrorists!

Israel has been walked into a careful trap.

The key right now is Egypt.

A big part of the British strategy has been creating Islamic insurgency in Africa.

If a 'sponteneous' African Islamic uprising can be made to topple Israel then the UK will appear to have success.

Once The Egyptian government 'updates', within a few months, maybe weeks, the onslaught will begin.

There is no safe place in the land of Israel once Egypt shifts.

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[coolcoinz]

A powerful group **cough** chabad **cough** has been assisting the UK and Russia in possibly the only thing those two countries agree on.

Are those the same weirdos who were digging tunnels in Brooklyn? They're sketchy to say the least.

We all know the US will protect Israel forever, because of how big the Jewish community in the US is. These are not normal voters, but people with a lot of money and power.
I just don't see how unorganized Arab countries could defeat that, so this war is going to last for decades. At least that's how I see it. 

[PrimeHunter2023]

A powerful group **cough** chabad **cough** has been assisting the UK and Russia in possibly the only thing those two countries agree on.

Are those the same weirdos who were digging tunnels in Brooklyn? They're sketchy to say the least.

We all know the US will protect Israel forever, because of how big the Jewish community in the US is. These are not normal voters, but people with a lot of money and power.
I just don't see how unorganized Arab countries could defeat that, so this war is going to last for decades. At least that's how I see it.  

Chabadniks are good individuals misguided into believing that a group of decent people can form a decent gang. Gang is gang.

They have a vast amount of political power and cash.

The reason they are suspect here is that back when the Ab Accords were starting a bunch of them made some indiscreet posts from the UAE. Shortly after that somebody tried to clean up their carelessness through posts in Israeli media. The nature of the mistake and what followed made me believe that Chabad leaders were willing participants and not unwitting stooges.

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It isn't a matter of the U.S. protecting Israel.

Since the 1990s the Brits have been building Islamic radical infrastructure under guise of fighting it.

The irony is that both the general public and most Israelis believe Israel or 'neocons' were behind it.

I did not figure it out until Crocus. From the 1990s until Crocus I was convinced it was neocons engineering a lot of mischief.

When the Tsurkov kidnapping first happened I posted many times on social media it was clearly a neocon project.

Not until Crocus did I figure out how brilliant and devious the British were. Then Tsurkov made sense.

There is not really any chance of limiting the upcoming carnage. It has been brilliantly arranged to begin with mass slaughter of Gazans so the public won't object when it happens.

History's main observation in ten or twenty years will simply be that the Israelis never should have given control of their security infrastructure to the brits. Since 1948 til today all of Israel's military and intelligence is nothing more than a franchise of mi6.

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ETA Just to be clear, I have no objection to eliminating the zionist state, even though I'm Jewish. My objection is to the unnecessary carnage and the disgusting benefit the British hope to exract from their mischief.

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[nagaechka]

Now the tedious waiting has begun, they say the attack will begin any day now. I hope Israel will repel everything as it should and deal a crushing blow to the terrorists!

Israel has been walked into a careful trap.

The key right now is Egypt.

A big part of the British strategy has been creating Islamic insurgency in Africa.

If a 'sponteneous' African Islamic uprising can be made to topple Israel then the UK will appear to have success.

Once The Egyptian government 'updates', within a few months, maybe weeks, the onslaught will begin.

There is no safe place in the land of Israel once Egypt shifts.

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This is all guesswork, Israel will be able to defend itself and possibly increase its territory.

[PrimeHunter2023]

This is all guesswork, Israel will be able to defend itself and possibly increase its territory.

It's tragic to watch, from my perspective, but nothing can be done.

The best the state of Israel can hope for is a brief detente, before Egypt changes hands, and then finito.

Smart people should look at how the British walked Israel, neocons, etc, into this trap.

Years ago I lived in a town that was mostly indigenous. We Europeans carefully managed things to perpetuate our power.

Aside from Indigenous and White there were about two or three blacks in the town. No indigenous or blacks in any position of power, no black or indigenous cops, etc.

An idea was hatched.

The town hired a black police chief, recruited from thousands of miles away.

About the same time they hired a white cop who was worse than the worst.

After a while the white cop 'arrested' a Native girl, took her to a remote spot and killed her.

Everybody helped cover it up. Most Natives were too afraid to do anything.

Long story short, "federal" whites came in and pretended to heroically save the day. The murderous cop went to jail and the black chief was disgraced.

In the U.S. variations of this trick are used around the country.

To understand how the British are so gifted at manipulating modern people you have to go back to ww2 and 'agent 488'.


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[PrimeHunter2023]

edit to add

Here is another story to help understand Israeli dimwittedness. It was told to me as a true story but it is probably a fable.

An acquaintance was in the Algerian quarter of Paris. Some guys cornered him and said "Your wallet please...".

He gave them his wallet and said "you guys are number 1, super slick, the bosses".

As they gloated walking away he kept saying "you guys are #1" and he took three throwing knives out and retrieved his wallet.

Jews generally are good at many sciences, but weak in others.

Very similar are Tibetans who have developed incredible rare sciences but given up clever statecraft and are now destroying their sciences so they are not abused.

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eta...no idea how the story ends. He was alcoholic so probably went to a bar.

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