Bitcointalk Quotes

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I need to find a way for users to humbly select their own posts. It'll speed up the process.

All a matter of incentives.  

Hmm.  I'm not sure every member would suggest their own posts humbly at all.  In fact, it could quickly turn into a spam fest on your end if you've got to approve them all--and if you aren't approving them, we'll probably end up seeing a bunch of meaningless, low-value quotes by members with egos far bigger than their forum contributions.

Know what I mean?  Aside from that I still like the site very much!

I generated 5 blocks today on my Pentium processor.

Oh man, to have been aware of, and involved in, bitcoin way back then.  If only I had a private time machine...

[LoyceV]

The site works on Tor now. Nice

I generated 5 blocks today on my Pentium processor.

Oh man, to have been aware of, and involved in, bitcoin way back then.

I feel your pain of "what if". But I also know I would probably have ended up like this:

I actually measured the energy usage with a Kill-A-Watt with and without mining a few months after that post, and I was getting 160 BTC/kWh. Because the cost of mining 1 BTC was less than a tenth of what 1 BTC was actually priced at at the time, I thought that BTC was substantially overpriced, and so I also have the honor of selling BTC at the lowest prices ever recorded, $0.003/BTC.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Testing VIP status: https://mempool.space/testnet4/tx/7915aa3643266aeb102dca43841b797bf35a01d4e7de16b31a66f21f12497899

Ha-ha, thanks for the tBTC!  

Which program did you use to convert the mainnet Segwit to testnet4 Segwit? It should be fairly easy, but I'm not aware of any, so it must have been done manually. First time another person constructs my own address.  

Oh man, to have been aware of, and involved in, bitcoin way back then.  If only I had a private time machine...

I can tell the same thing for 2015, which is when you registered. And someone else will say the same thing about me in a few years from now. We should never forget to appreciate what we have in life.

[ercewubam]

Which program did you use to convert the mainnet Segwit to testnet4 Segwit?

Bitcoin Core. By the way: you don't need to "convert" anything, you can instead create a transaction, sending coins to the mainnet address, and then sign that transaction under testnet. Also, if you want to move those coins, then again: you can create a transaction under testnet, and sign it from your mainnet node. In this way, no conversions are needed.

Another benefit of doing that, is testing offline signing, which is a good habit in general.

Edit: Let's make it a double:

Code:

createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"1e5c0c5c2e71f2adb7804d4a1f9e2d4d22e500bde8330573e11774be9871e05d","vout":0}]' '[{"bc1qmx0qn8rak9zpftl27ryr5en6ffsvhex37kuta0":50.00000000}]' 0 true
02000000015de07198be7417e1730533e8bd00e5224d2d9e1f4a4d80b7adf2712e5c0c5c1e0000000000fdffffff0100f2052a01000000160014d99e099c7db14414afeaf0c83a667a4a60cbe4d100000000

And then, if you did that from your mainnet node, and you have well-formed transaction, then you can sign it under testnet:

Code:

signrawtransactionwithwallet "02000000015de07198be7417e1730533e8bd00e5224d2d9e1f4a4d80b7adf2712e5c0c5c1e0000000000fdffffff0100f2052a01000000160014d99e099c7db14414afeaf0c83a667a4a60cbe4d100000000" '[{"txid":"1e5c0c5c2e71f2adb7804d4a1f9e2d4d22e500bde8330573e11774be9871e05d","vout":0,"scriptPubKey":"0014bf333b43b2416a9cde98666f169e0e7c111f509d","amount":50.00001559}]'
{
  "hex": "020000000001015de07198be7417e1730533e8bd00e5224d2d9e1f4a4d80b7adf2712e5c0c5c1e0000000000fdffffff0100f2052a01000000160014d99e099c7db14414afeaf0c83a667a4a60cbe4d1024730440220514d1e998eb8c9681918dce33649eef5da838c8f70631c75b92175ebbd3c7afc022045a9ff34384c9dcc1584975d7476c0634105e5533103c08cb2f09e54ba9b1c33012103acfb93083094546a7f7dccf231f506bed26711e06e7806427ec68dd3a12940e300000000",
  "complete": true
}

Then, all that is left, is to just send this transaction, using any tool: your own node, some block explorer, whatever:

Code:

$ ./bitcoin-cli -testnet4 sendrawtransaction 020000000001015de07198be7417e1730533e8bd00e5224d2d9e1f4a4d80b7adf2712e5c0c5c1e0000000000fdffffff0100f2052a01000000160014d99e099c7db14414afeaf0c83a667a4a60cbe4d1024730440220514d1e998eb8c9681918dce33649eef5da838c8f70631c75b92175ebbd3c7afc022045a9ff34384c9dcc1584975d7476c0634105e5533103c08cb2f09e54ba9b1c33012103acfb93083094546a7f7dccf231f506bed26711e06e7806427ec68dd3a12940e300000000
912dc40022b3d3316382479cda05253233718fbccf1bbcf2d30562610726b119

[BlackHatCoiner]

Bitcoin Core is such a cool software. LoyceV, sent you a testnet bitcoin, in case you ever need one: f54ec488b37dbd0dc948572fb866f870fbf82a0c7e3813c3d4c61d7dfd442946.

[ercewubam]

Bitcoin Core is such a cool software.

It indeed is. Also note, that testnet4 is still in its infancy. So, you can get your transaction confirmed even for free, as long as there is enough space in blocks. You can check your peers, maybe some of them accept free transactions?

Code:

$ ./bitcoin-cli -testnet4 getpeerinfo | grep minfeefilter
"minfeefilter": 0.00000000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00000000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,
"minfeefilter": 0.00001000,

So, if you spot a node with "minfeefilter" set to zero (or anything lower than 0.00001000), then you can try to send a cheaper (or free) transaction, and there is a chance, that you are connected to some CPU miner, who will confirm it for free.

For example, for testnet4, I have these settings:

Code:

mintxfee=0.00000001
minrelaytxfee=0.00000000
blockmintxfee=0.00000000
dustrelayfee=0.00000000
mempoolexpiry=35000
acceptnonstdtxn=1
maxtxfee=1000000.00000000
mempoolfullrbf=1

Edit:

LoyceV, sent you a testnet bitcoin, in case you ever need one

Let's see, if you can correctly sweep coinbase transaction: https://mempool.space/testnet4/tx/296c14acfc4aa71a53d1d2e0fda8c3702aaeab20fa7fea78c185a4fd4972bddc

Because a lot of people cannot do that, for some reason. Maybe they use "getreceivedbyaddress" or something.

[LoyceV]

Bitcoin Core is such a cool software. LoyceV, sent you a testnet bitcoin, in case you ever need one: f54ec488b37dbd0dc948572fb866f870fbf82a0c7e3813c3d4c61d7dfd442946.

Lol. It's kinda cool, having some testnet4 coins could come in handy some day. Is that the address in my profile? I don't really want to search all my existing addresses, but if that's the one, I'll keep it separately

Edit:

LoyceV, sent you a testnet bitcoin, in case you ever need one

Let's see, if you can correctly sweep coinbase transaction: https://mempool.space/testnet4/tx/296c14acfc4aa71a53d1d2e0fda8c3702aaeab20fa7fea78c185a4fd4972bddc

Because a lot of people cannot do that, for some reason. Maybe they use "getreceivedbyaddress" or something.

So you mined testnet4 to BlackHatCoiner's Bitcoin address? Lol
Isn't spending them as easy as importing the private key in Bitcoin Core (on testnet4 of course)?

[ercewubam]

So you mined testnet4 to BlackHatCoiner's Bitcoin address?

Check closer, who is the owner of this address: https://mempool.space/testnet4/address/tb1qy65a0ltkaxpuwc22gx2zjehac8gpgppawrmpud

Isn't spending them as easy as importing the private key in Bitcoin Core (on testnet4 of course)?

It is, but:
1. Some parties, like exchanges, often don't process them correctly, and don't associate those coins with your account.
2. You have to wait for coinbase maturity (100 blocks).

[LoyceV]

So you mined testnet4 to BlackHatCoiner's Bitcoin address?

Check closer, who is the owner of this address: https://mempool.space/testnet4/address/tb1qy65a0ltkaxpuwc22gx2zjehac8gpgppawrmpud

I assume it's me. Update: I moved the testnet4 coins today. Thanks, that was a learning experience

Isn't spending them as easy as importing the private key in Bitcoin Core (on testnet4 of course)?

It is, but:
1. Some parties, like exchanges, often don't process them correctly, and don't associate those coins with your account.
2. You have to wait for coinbase maturity (100 blocks).

I was hoping getting testnet4 working would be easier by now, but I'm still stuck on boost errors. I guess I'll just wait until testnet4 is enabled by default. For now, I've labeled the address as "testnet4"

[BlackHatCoiner]

You can check your peers, maybe some of them accept free transactions?

I get the exact same result as you do, but nodes reject my 0 sat/vb transaction:

Code:

createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"d9251a6f083848d190664c721b5ee3a1690c09b02afcefe08fe7fce4977f18c7","vout":0}]' '[{"tb1qv9m80m7y7zt8u30qwdwajcmlzv3jvg4mey7zju":8.98999859}]' 0 true
0200000001c7187f97e4fce78fe0effc2ab0090c69a1e35e1b724c6690d14838086f1a25d90000000000fdffffff0133a6953500000000160014617677efc4f0967e45e0735dd9637f13232622bb00000000

signrawtransactionwithwallet "0200000001c7187f97e4fce78fe0effc2ab0090c69a1e35e1b724c6690d14838086f1a25d90000000000fdffffff0133a6953500000000160014617677efc4f0967e45e0735dd9637f13232622bb00000000" '[{"txid":"d9251a6f083848d190664c721b5ee3a1690c09b02afcefe08fe7fce4977f18c7","vout":0,"scriptPubKey":"0014617677efc4f0967e45e0735dd9637f13232622bb","amount":8.98999859}]'
{
  "hex": "02000000000101c7187f97e4fce78fe0effc2ab0090c69a1e35e1b724c6690d14838086f1a25d90000000000fdffffff0133a6953500000000160014617677efc4f0967e45e0735dd9637f13232622bb0247304402202544c93845d2a565817c00c76987fdee4b9ac0019374f2185db2188bfe0a4a97022020458c57f7e54521236b137b24a9363305adb3a30fc521bdf06dfa801a16992e012103d3216bfc75eb4a7d9327398adf31b863bb3efcab932d2968d459d64df8333bcc00000000",
  "complete": true
}

sendrawtransaction 02000000000101c7187f97e4fce78fe0effc2ab0090c69a1e35e1b724c6690d14838086f1a25d90000000000fdffffff0133a6953500000000160014617677efc4f0967e45e0735dd9637f13232622bb0247304402202544c93845d2a565817c00c76987fdee4b9ac0019374f2185db2188bfe0a4a97022020458c57f7e54521236b137b24a9363305adb3a30fc521bdf06dfa801a16992e012103d3216bfc75eb4a7d9327398adf31b863bb3efcab932d2968d459d64df8333bcc00000000
min relay fee not met, 0 < 110 (code -26)

Lol. It's kinda cool, having some testnet4 coins could come in handy some day. Is that the address in my profile?

Yep, it's the bech32 one, sitting on your profile page.

I was hoping getting testnet4 working would be easier by now, but I'm still stuck on boost errors. I guess I'll just wait until testnet4 is enabled by default. For now, I've labeled the address as "testnet4"

I was facing some problems too when I tried to do this manually, but all it needed was just to fetch the clone properly. Did you fetch it as written in here?

[LoyceV]

Did you fetch it as written in here?

Yep. I could spin up a spare laptop, install a standard Ubuntu version, and try again, but it's easier to just wait for testnet3 to be shredded and replaced by the new version by default Maybe when I have more time

[garlonicon]

but nodes reject my 0 sat/vb transaction

Other nodes won't accept it, if your own node will reject it. You have to configure your node first, to accept those transactions locally.

but I'm still stuck on boost errors

What about GitHub pipelines? For example, I am trying to build my changes there: https://github.com/garlonicon/bitcoin/actions/runs/10558037449

I guess, if it will be successful, then you could simply download binaries from there. Because if things are built on GitHub, then you can see, that I didn't touch them at all, and you can read all code changes in a pull request to see, if they are correct or not.

Also note, that because I changed those things globally, I don't recommend using those binaries to run a mainnet node (because then, it may try to produce blocks with 20 minute delay, for no reason).

[DubemIfedigbo001]

These are some golden words, but they are casually presented, could you add some CSS to the page to beautify it, increase the font size a bit and use a better font for its presentation, also add a few quotes to the view at once so we can read more than one in a page and introduce pagination to see more of it when desired. Also could you introduce a select button with names of those who have the quotes so we can select which person's quotes to read at a time.

If you strictly want it to be one read a time
Better still, you can fetch the quotes and save it on an array as soon as the page loads, then manage the Random display from the array, so the page does not need to refresh before the user gets another random quote, it can improve the experience and desire of the reader to consume more of your contents.

You could avoid repetition of the same quote by removing it from the array, then randomly display others until the array is empty, also use  an indicator to tell the user how many quotes they have read, and how many more to go. kind of keeps the user engaged.

Nice work though

[BlackHatCoiner]

Other nodes won't accept it, if your own node will reject it. You have to configure your node first, to accept those transactions locally.

I just opened Bitcoin Core after the last time I posted. Transaction is confirmed, even though I checked it hadn't reached mempool.space's node, at the time I sent it. Isn't that strange? My node's configuration is default, probably rejecting anything lower than 1 sat/vb. I have no configuration file, and start Core with ./bitcoin-qt --testnet4. The only reasonable explanation is that some of you broadcasted it for me.

[Asuspawer09]

Great idea! Probably highlighting the main quote on the link, putting it in the center, then having some kind of list of quotes that you have a store option where you could select or pick one, just having the option of being able to send other quotes to one another.

I'll update it as I find more interesting posts. You can open the link to check if I've selected posts of yours, but you'll have to refresh and read new quotes manually to find them!

Is there a way to update this and add it to a PC homescreen for example? This way the random quotes change every 10 or so seconds.

Is there also a way to see the full list of quotes and choose the one you want to read at a time?

I like that idea, having some kind of random quotes for every 5minutes or something like that  would love to have that as well, just reading some random quotes would be great!

[vjudeu]

even though I checked it hadn't reached mempool.space's node, at the time I sent it

It won't reach mempool.space, because they enforce 1 sat/vB limit. It will appear there only after getting a single confirmation.

My node's configuration is default, probably rejecting anything lower than 1 sat/vb.

Not only that. If you use default configuration, then you may also not support full-RBF.

The only reasonable explanation is that some of you broadcasted it for me.

Yes, testnet CPU-miners are reading this forum. However, if you want to send more such transactions, it is better to change your bitcoin.conf, for example similarly to how ercewubam wrote above.

[bitmover]

Interesting website .

I would add the date (or at least the year) with the quote.

I thought I would see some statistics like merits,  year of posts and maybe board inside the statistics page. This could be improved

And a dark mode would certainly be nice to see

[Perfectbaby]

Hey @BlackHatCoiner at first I want to appreciate you for the time spent working on this set-up post. I clicked on it and it looks cool, but I would also want to suggest that instead of someone to keep refreshing the page before seeing the next post why not hyperlinked the users listed on the statistics.

For example; theymos has about 10 post when you click on the message all theymos post should be able to display, so should it be applicable to those with 1 message as well since there is no next option or select menus. However, it would look more finner if you include menu to enable people selected on their favorite post after having mistakenly refresh it.

Just imagine we have about 100-1,000 post how would someone be able to come back to post number 1 or post number 10. With menu it will be very helpful and easy to surf.

Thank you for the efforts.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Update

- You can view all quotes of a user from statistics page, as requested.

I chose to add these two posts into the database, as I find them particularly profound in days like these.

Since this is an open source project, would it be acceptable for individuals to take initiative amongst themselves to develop a kind of committee to put forth effort into deciding upon how to officially represent Bitcoins with a particular symbol or should we instead rely on Satoshi Nakamoto as authority over determining this type of establishment within Bitcoin?

One thing I've seen over and over with open source projects is their tendency to fork, often to the detriment of everyone involved. Saying that there will never be a major disagreement over the system seems naive.

I guess my real question is, how do we all decide what is the correct bitcoin program? Is it and will it always be whatever Satoshi posts on bitcoin.org? How is that different than just trusting the Federal Reserve? (In Satoshi We Trust)

We are all Satoshi.

[l99l]

Interesting website .

I would add the date (or at least the year) with the quote.

I thought I would see some statistics like merits,  year of posts and maybe board inside the statistics page. This could be improved

And a dark mode would certainly be nice to see

It would be really great if there was a dark mode.
When I opened the site, I was met with a white light explosion, but I really liked the quote I saw.
The quote I read was about pizza. 

Well thought out on beautiful work.