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July 23, 2024, 04:19:08 PM
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.

Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.

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July 23, 2024, 05:13:15 PM
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
That's how most persons understands about the concept "gambling for fun", as frequently used among gamblers but it transcend just beyond when we are caught up in a winning streaks that it should then be regarded as fun. Tue fun aspect of gambling is what I think to be subjective of the individual and the condition for gambling.

If you're gambling out of poverty and want to make money from gambling, it's only going to feel as fun only when you're in grossed profit otherwise it's not fun anymore.

When you gambling to kill time, for distractions and drain boredom as the end aim, then it's going to be fun for both in a win or loss results, your interest is your getting your optimum entertainment.

And so it goes on and on... The question should be, what exactly are you gambling for?

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July 23, 2024, 05:24:12 PM
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Winning can also make one addicted to gamble because you will always want to keep playing so that you can continue winning and that is what greed do cause. A lot of gamblers will not stop gambling when they are winning and even if they stop, they would want to continue tomorrow.

The important thing is that you should gamble moderate and don't overdo it either winning or losing because that is when it can make you get addicted if you overdo it.

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July 23, 2024, 05:25:58 PM
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"When you're winning it's fun but when you're losing it's addictive right?" - well, why, winnings are also addictive and you want to win more and more.

That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
Yes exactly. As long as you win at gambling, you will be admired and called lucky, but as soon as you start losing money over and over again, you will be labeled as a gambling addict. Although, of course, even the lucky ones, who often win, suffer from no less gambling addiction than their less fortunate ones.

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July 23, 2024, 05:39:28 PM
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At the time you get a great victory, you will feel the pleasure. And when you feel that pleasure, you will forget all the things you should avoid.
I mean, when you get a win you'll definitely keep playing in the hope of wanting to continue your fun to get a bigger win. Without you realizing, you have experienced an early addiction that will spend your initial victory after it loses all that money and becomes very angry wanting to pursue such a defeat. And when you pursue that defeat, that's when you're already entering the early zone of gambling addiction.

Remember, addiction isn't just about winning or losing, it's all about how you can control yourself.

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July 23, 2024, 06:27:27 PM
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.

Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.
the thing with addiction is that if you gather ten addict together and ask them to be sincere with what they feel is the root cause of thier gambling addiction, the responses they will all give wouldn't be the same. Some became addicted because there was once upon a time they where regular at winning and felt they could get back to those time and continued gambling till it becomes addiction, others saw people winning and wanted to also win like those people and the end product led them to becoming addicted to the act of gambling.

If you're not a regular winer who stops winning at a point and continued gambling with the hope of winning again,
 And ended up becoming an addict, you wouldn't know that wining could cause one to become addicted and the reverse is what is obtainable for those regular losers. Winning is indeed rewarding and it's part of what is called the fun of gambling. If I continue winning and continue gambling even above what I can afford to lose and still win at that point, no one will see me as an addict and I guess that's the angle the OP is making reference to.

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July 23, 2024, 08:13:34 PM
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Op your analogy not clear for me and if I even understand your comparation, I will disagree with you by comparing academic result to gambling. Gambling addiction in most time comes from losing and not even winning. Gambling addiction comes from irresponsible gambling and gambling without plan causes addiction. It is the lazy youths in most times found in gambling addiction because they can't work hard to pay their bills. So are you telling me that students who made good results are lazy and weak vessels.

The comparation is not really good. I also disagree with your topic. Winning is not addictive. And addiction can be winning and losing. Both can lead to addiction.

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When a gambler continues to win gambling, he finds a kind of joy in gambling and he wants to win more. It is very natural that a gambler must have a kind of greed working inside him if he wins gambling and he will want to find himself repeatedly in gambling.
A gambler never expects him to win a bet on gambling but if he loses his gambling, he takes gambling as a challenge instead of enjoying himself, and he repeatedly wants to bet on gambling to recover the money given in the past. In this way he repeatedly takes gambling as a challenge and at some point accepts gambling so much that he can never abandon it.

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July 23, 2024, 08:20:08 PM
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
What would be the feeling other than fun when you are actually experiencing winning results, the whole concept of the fun aspect I think is basically tied up to the fact that the gambler should always note the fact even when he is losing he should know that it's not a personal affair and shouldn't go all out trying to win back because that's where the whole disaster starts from.

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What I understand about addiction, it's something that you do often and even if you are losing you are still gambling, and you are not doing it for entertainment either. If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

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July 23, 2024, 08:50:52 PM
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What I understand about addiction, it's something that you do often and even if you are losing you are still gambling, and you are not doing it for entertainment either. If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
That is because we all have our own biases. If a friend of ours have been winning his bets continuously, we'd see the winning side and be happy for him and the classification of being an addicted gambler isn't there. But if that friend of ours have been losing all the period of time and gets nothing, we'd tell him that he's a gambler and should stop. I think winning plays a big part when we call someone an expert or an addicted gambler. But it's true, the actual definition of it is that the person keeps on engaging on it.

So, whether we win or lose but if we've been engaging and gambling for so long and there's the urge that our days won't be completed without doing it. Then congratulations, that's just one of the many signs that addiction is already on you.

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Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.

Some people will still end up being addicted to gambling whether they lose or they win. While losing and winning can be some of the factors that bring people gambling close to being addicted or not, it is not just the only reasons. The frequency of gambling and the environment where people gambling have greatly affected their gambling livestyles thereby making them addicts. In all honesty, moderating your behavior towards playing gambling games is the best way to check.your self from the danger of addiction not necessarily due to the winning or losing.

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Being addicted to whatever is not actually when you are winning or losing. There's this saying that says, whatever takes more of your time, and appears to control you, should put a stop before it occupies your mental reasoning and social lifestyle which will result in you not taking proper care of yourself.

Someone can be winning and having fun in other areas of their life but the habit they may be exhibiting will not be encouraging for others to walk upon as being a better human being. Too much of everything they say is not good for everyone, there should be limits to certain things.

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July 23, 2024, 09:09:12 PM
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The perception of gambling indeed hinges on results, and that's where I concur. When one is on a winning streak, gambling metamorphoses into frivolous fun: a benign activity with no strings attached, despite the frequency or amount wagered. Luck blinds people to the downside; they defiantly cast their gaze only upon the triumphs.

But addiction issues only arise after a person starts losing and still continues to gamble despite the losing streaks; it is at this point that people start viewing gambling as a negative phenomenon and seek solutions or remedies. If the same person later wins back the money, then they are not considered addicts but rather fortunate or skilled gamblers.

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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.


First, the definition of “gambling addict” does not take into account whether the person always wins or always loses. If the gambler practices gambling extensively on a daily basis and at the same time makes profits, he can still be considered an addict, since he will continue playing even if he is losing. The evidence for this is that he cannot be prevented from doing so on the pretext that he has made profits that enable him to stop playing except in the event of an opportunity. Few. This is in theory.

Secondly, who believes that there are those who constantly win at gambling, especially addicts who practice their addiction on an intense daily basis? This may be possible in theory, but it is completely far from reality.

Addiction is a psychological disease that affects a person's cognitive abilities and prevents him from distinguishing facts, forcing him to give up part or all of his responsibilities. The matter cannot be dealt with on the basis of profit and loss ratios.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
Nope, that's not the definition of gambling or gambling addiction. One who gambles a lot and gives most of his/her time at gambling is an addict. If that same person somehow not gambles then he/she will not get Dopamine that's released during the gambling and that person somehow needs gambling to satisfy his addiction urges.

In community when someone turns as a gambling addict then almost everyone around him/her can feel the negative energy of addiction on his/her life. In gambling no one wins all the time, even those who are professional at sports betting often face some losses, and the ones who are addicted to gambling become happy when they continuously win many bets but as soon as they lose some bets then they somehow lose their emotional control and end up doing wrong things.

Those who're severely addicted to gambling often end up losing everything they won and still gamble to recover the losses and win more money. They won't get satisfied even if they get money from somewhere else because those addicts will again gamble with that money and the same cycle of winning and losing takes place again and again. That's why most professional gamblers suggest to learn gambling responsibility to be safe from severe addiction.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

Every gambler, has a different definition I guess. In fact, we don't have a definitive definition of this. In gambling or betting, there is no other word for the exciting moment, namely getting a win, especially if you reach the maximum win. for example, playing slots or parlay in football. It cannot be denied that the feeling of joy arises when we achieve victory, I am quite sure that most bettors agree. 

However, if you refer to the title of this thread, I think the answer is very subjective depending on the habits of each gambler. The reason is, whether when you win, the feeling of continuing to carry out the gambling or betting session will always occur to every gambler. In fact, not all gamblers withdraw their winnings and continue the betting session. there are those who double their winnings, quite a few end up losing. especially if we lose, our emotions will be involved and it often occurs to us to make a deposit again. in this context we can say it is addictive, there are also those who are able to control themselves, and end their gambling session.
Whether you are an addict or non-addict depends on how you treat your own gambling, if you do this activity excessively, there could be indications of being an addict. or, someone is not aware that they have become an addict. and the only one who can measure what we do is ourselves, but with awareness. Awareness and understanding are important, at least to help us not get too carried away by excessive emotions whether we win or lose. if we refer to that fun thing when winning, then I can't tolerate it. However, there are actually other things that make betting or gambling fun, tense and adrenaline-increasing entertainment, regardless of whether you win or lose in the end.


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July 23, 2024, 09:49:34 PM
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

You can have fun and still be losing but you would not be concerned because all you want to do is to enjoy yourself. While having fun and losing, you have to use a capital that is not too much for you to lose. Gambling is a fun activity that you can engage in with or without friends to socialize without putting all your hopes on winning for you to make money. If you are gambling without depending on the results for you to make money then you are having fun and funs does not only have to be when you are winning but it will be better you are having fun and winning than to be having fun and losing. At some point it will occur to you that you are not making good financial decisions by always losing when you are gambling and would want to stop if you still have control over your decisions and not addicted to gambling.

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July 23, 2024, 09:54:59 PM
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
The key on here is being responsible and sensible on the things that you are doing. Doesnt matter if you are doing real life situations or dealing up with gambling on which it would really be just that the same.
On the moment that you do find yourself being that impulsive or making actions on which arent supposed to be done then its one of the indications that you are already addicted to it. Dealing up with gambling doesnt
automatically means that you are an addicted person on which we know that on the time or moment that you do find yourself having that kind of moderation and control then you are really just that fine.

Losing is part of the game even on real life situations on which every decisions would really be having its corresponding effects whether positive or negative. This is why its important that you do make
yourself at least wary about those probabilities that could really happen along the way. Every steps taken should really be assessed out whether its good or bad.
Addiction is on the moment that you do lost up control and other considerations on which you must done.

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July 23, 2024, 10:03:21 PM
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Nobody has understand gambling in such, I have not seen someone who says that when you're wining gambling is called funs and when you're losing is called addicted, I will say that it's your own way of understanding gambling, because I know quite well that gambling has to do with opportunity, so it's obvious that gambling is entertainment it's neither when you gamble above a reasonable doubt is when it's called addiction, wining gambling is not called fun, from my perspective it's called opportunity as I see so many persons address wining in gambling.

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