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In crypto, the same metaphor is bitcoin (BTC) against ether (ETH). Since the crypto winter ended, bitcoin has outperformed. crypto over ether because historically it goes further and longer than bitcoin in the near future but until now it has underperformed.
If you wanted to explain it, you might suggest that ether developers are constantly tinkering with the blockchain, regularly injecting their new ideas into the system, which may or may not solve the blockchain problems they want to fix and that tinkering decreases the value of ether because inject uncertainty. A group of geniuses tinkering with the crypto financial system, in some ways exactly what governments do with fiat and the reason why those who hate fiat and love crypto want to get out of fiat. So Ethereum developers acting like a central bank might just hinder its valuation. “Code as law” isn't very convincing when some young, faceless programmer can act like Judge Dredd with your bag of crypto. Bitcoin -1.2%, on the other hand, there is almost no such interference and no system flipping every time some developer thinks something is wrong with it. The idea of decentralization is still strong in bitcoin and changing the system is incredibly difficult and the structure is hardly decentralized. bitcoin marches on, seemingly impenetrable to much human influence.
If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
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July 24, 2024, 07:47:17 AM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
What do you mean as percentage terms? If it is volatile, we can even expect ether to increase more than bitcoin (but I do not think that would b possible as ether has become less volatile like bitcoin). But if referring to catching up with bitcoin, you suppose to talk about marketcap. Ether can not catch up with bitcoin for now in decades. The possibility of another coins to catch up with ether is more than the possibility of ether to catch up with bitcoin.
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July 24, 2024, 07:58:56 AM |
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In terms of supply, Ethereum has unlimited supply. In terms of security, Ethereum has inferior security compared to Bitcoin. In terms of popularity, Bitcoin is known more than Ethereum. In terms of price stability, Bitcoin is more stable, and Ethereum gained and lost almost 42% of its value in 3 months.
You shouldn't believe anyone who claims any crypto coin will surpass Bitcoin or even catch up to it in any field, whether it's an altcoin, meme coin, or shitcoin. The only coin that has surpassed Bitcoin is Monero, and only in security.
So no, I don't think Ethereum will ever catch up to Bitcoin.
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July 24, 2024, 08:51:47 AM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
You also need to be aware that Eth developers has also made an implementation for its token blockchain to the SEC which by speculations it has been approved. So in time ahead, The Eth will not longer lean its markets influence on bitcoin. This means Eth would be an independent crypto and might likely affect its liquidity. To me Eth is a good coin hopeful to compete with bitcoin but I don't see it making dominance over bitcoin.
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July 24, 2024, 10:57:49 AM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
I don't understand though your point of comparison with regards to Ethereum catching up with Bitcoin. You said that if Bitcoin reaches $100k then Ethereum is $25k, so if my math is correct then Bitcoin is way further ahead in terms of price. And maybe you are not yet here, but during 2018, when we are in the early stages of bear market, there are school of thoughts who think that Ethereum can reach or even topple Bitcoin at the top and they aptly called it "The Flippening". I will not spoon feed you, but it's better for you to research on it. In 2017, Bitcoin reaches a record all time high at almost $20k. But when this so called idea of Ethereum toppling Bitcoin, it has reached as low as $3k and so there are Ethereum enthusiast who think that they can do it. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. And I give you a hint, another altcoins also attempted and they called it "The Rippening", and so I guess you know what coins that is.
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No I don’t think Ethereum will ever catch up with Bitcoin if what you mean is be a higher $ price or surpass adoption. Bitcoin is the King of crypto & always will be, it’s better in every way. It has a much lower supply with a fixed cap of 21 million, compared to Ethereum where the supply is almost endless. Bitcoin is proof of work compared with proof of stake with Eth. Transaction/Gas are much higher with Ethereum. I don’t see Eth catching up with Bitcoin in any way.
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In terms of market price I doubt. Indeed there are differences with the rate of increase on these two but I think parallelism is still evident with Bitcoin and Ethereum market price if we would check a wider timeframe. They're just two different chains and tokend as well, so we cannot expect for a totally same price action. In terms of stability, not sure but I observed a better market price stability with Ethereum especially on the recent market crash so I guess it is still as promising as ever. If this is to the idea of whoch coin to invest then I'd suggest choosing both or diversifying your wallet to these two to have better investment performances than just choosing a single coin. No I don’t think Ethereum will ever catch up with Bitcoin if what you mean is be a higher $ price or surpass adoption. Bitcoin is the King of crypto & always will be, it’s better in every way. It has a much lower supply with a fixed cap of 21 million, compared to Ethereum where the supply is almost endless. Bitcoin is proof of work compared with proof of stake with Eth. Transaction/Gas are much higher with Ethereum. I don’t see Eth catching up with Bitcoin in any way.
It wouldn't likely to catch up. Bitcoin has a bigger community to start things with. There are numerous of pumps we saw before and it's been proven that ETH will just remain next to Bitcoin, in all aspects.
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
If bitcoin is $100K and Ethereum is $25K how much is bitcoin capitalized? Isn't it further away than what we saw before or later, therefore it is impossible for Ethereum to catch up with bitcoin it is still too far away. You said as an investor suggesting Ethereum replace bitcoin, how can he do it? Is it because developers have to tinker with the blockchain with other ideas? If that's the goal to catch up with bitcoin then it's impossible.
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If you view the gap by yourself, you will know that ETH will not catch up with BTC in the industry till BTC will disappear from the industry because the teams behind BTC will make sure there is a long gap between BTC and ETH for BTC to have plenty investors than ETH in the industry.
BTC price is still in $66k while ETH price is still in $3k, for you to see and believe that it will be difficult for ETH to catch up with the king among other cryptocurrencies, but ETH will continue to be in second position among other altcoins because their teams are capable of making it continue to top other altcoins in the industry. I guess, 2021 is too far, you can use this year bull run as an example op, when the price of BTC hit $73k this year 2024, ETH price manage to hit $4k which is the result that made many people to believe that BTC will continue to be the top among other altcoins.
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No I don’t think Ethereum will ever catch up with Bitcoin if what you mean is be a higher $ price or surpass adoption. Bitcoin is the King of crypto & always will be, it’s better in every way. It has a much lower supply with a fixed cap of 21 million, compared to Ethereum where the supply is almost endless. Bitcoin is proof of work compared with proof of stake with Eth. Transaction/Gas are much higher with Ethereum. I don’t see Eth catching up with Bitcoin in any way.
Not even ETH as long as bitcoin will remain bitcoin and its feature will no change. I don’t see any coin ahead of bitcoin; in fact, bitcoin has been in existence for a very long time now, and its value has not decreased anywhere. It is always increasing, and the adoption of bitcoin is getting bigger, so I don’t think there will be a coin that can come, and bitcoin, either price or value, is going to be impossible. However, the teams behind BTC are very smart, and they will work end to end to see that the existence of bitcoin impacts more to people positively than any other cryptocurrency, so this will make it no longer disappear in the industry.
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
The main problem with this idea is the fact of where will the liquidity came from. That price level needs huge liquidity to flow on Ethereum without siphoning the liquidity out of other crypto such as Bitcoin. We need billionaires to invest on crypto or at least double the current investment of everyone in crypto right now in able to achieved that target. The current marketcap is still on high level so it’s very hard for altcoins to catchup easily unless Bitcoin dominance will go down and pour toaltcoin like Ethereum.
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No I don’t think Ethereum will ever catch up with Bitcoin if what you mean is be a higher $ price or surpass adoption. Bitcoin is the King of crypto & always will be, it’s better in every way. It has a much lower supply with a fixed cap of 21 million, compared to Ethereum where the supply is almost endless. Bitcoin is proof of work compared with proof of stake with Eth. Transaction/Gas are much higher with Ethereum. I don’t see Eth catching up with Bitcoin in any way.
I don't even know the type of hype that Ethereum will get that it will surpass Bitcoin's price one day. No matter how people may adopt Ethereum, I don't ever think its price will surpass Bitcoin's, because the more people adopt Ethereum, the more people will continue adopting Bitcoin. The current price gap between Bitcoin and Ethereum is very wide. In fact, from my experience in the crypto industry, it is clear to me that Bitcoin is the king coin that controls the price of all other alternative coins. Bitcoin's bullish trend is the pattern all strong alternative coins always follow. So, I think people may even adopt Ethereum more than they will keep adopting Bitcoin.
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Maybe? These type of things are not really known beforehand to be fair, we would love to know it beforehand, but usually we don't and we just see it when that happens. So if the flip ever happens, we will not be knowing it beforehand, some people can make predictions but that ain't really that hard, its just making up a decision. I can also do a heads or tails, and decide based on that, it would be same as people making predictions to be fair, nothing different. In the end, we just have to live and see what happens, but what we can decide is what could happen if that ever becomes real, and I think it will not matter too much if you ask me, not much will change.
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Ethereum will surely be one of the best cryptocurrencies forever, but I don't think it's going to catch up to Bitcoin. It might outperform Bitcoin several times, but Bitcoin is still going to dominate over time. If Ethereum were going to catch up, it should have done that a long time ago.
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In terms of supply, Ethereum has unlimited supply. In terms of security, Ethereum has inferior security compared to Bitcoin. In terms of popularity, Bitcoin is known more than Ethereum. In terms of price stability, Bitcoin is more stable, and Ethereum gained and lost almost 42% of its value in 3 months.
You shouldn't believe anyone who claims any crypto coin will surpass Bitcoin or even catch up to it in any field, whether it's an altcoin, meme coin, or shitcoin. The only coin that has surpassed Bitcoin is Monero, and only in security.
So no, I don't think Ethereum will ever catch up to Bitcoin.
AlphaBoy nailed it perfectly in terms of the way things should be. ETH is still used to launch a universe of projects, some good and many crap, which Bitcoin cannot do. Fortunately, the really high average ETH network fees allows competitors a chance to eventually take over the number two spot.
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In crypto, the same metaphor is bitcoin (BTC) against ether (ETH). Since the crypto winter ended, bitcoin has outperformed. crypto over ether because historically it goes further and longer than bitcoin in the near future but until now it has underperformed.
If you wanted to explain it, you might suggest that ether developers are constantly tinkering with the blockchain, regularly injecting their new ideas into the system, which may or may not solve the blockchain problems they want to fix and that tinkering decreases the value of ether because inject uncertainty. A group of geniuses tinkering with the crypto financial system, in some ways exactly what governments do with fiat and the reason why those who hate fiat and love crypto want to get out of fiat. So Ethereum developers acting like a central bank might just hinder its valuation. “Code as law” isn't very convincing when some young, faceless programmer can act like Judge Dredd with your bag of crypto. Bitcoin -1.2%, on the other hand, there is almost no such interference and no system flipping every time some developer thinks something is wrong with it. The idea of decentralization is still strong in bitcoin and changing the system is incredibly difficult and the structure is hardly decentralized. bitcoin marches on, seemingly impenetrable to much human influence.
If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
What faceless developers are you talking about? Every significant developer who is working for it closely, is more or less a public figure. And the code is public. And what an earth is this central bank vs eth developer comparison? That doesn't make any sense. Eth has nothing to do with fiat or how fiat is being "developed", or "tinkered" with. And world needs projects that are being ambitious and experimental, that's how we get things done. Not by worrying that everything collapses if we do a tiniest change to the code. And people have change to vote down unwanted changes, by not accepting them. But yeah, i can see eth going to 25k easily.
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Ethereum has been performing quite bad though, an outlook to the current small dips that experienced by the crypto market ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FyNtqxjkc%2Foiewqr.png&t=665&c=_Z73C3tvEszYTA) ETH is down more than any other coin, supposedly ETH should be gaining price increase right now considering that ETF inflow of ETH in the first day amounts to hundred millions of dollars ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F28r5Cjpm%2Fieoryu.png&t=665&c=5O_AUfk8LUahJQ) but nah, it dipped worse than other big 5 coin, knowing that ETH has been quite underperforming this bullrun, this is such a disappointment, it seems as if the market shows lack of interest to ETH. so I'm not really sure whether it can really catch up with bitcoin.
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Ethereum has been performing quite bad though, an outlook to the current small dips that experienced by the crypto market ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FyNtqxjkc%2Foiewqr.png&t=665&c=_Z73C3tvEszYTA) ETH is down more than any other coin, supposedly ETH should be gaining price increase right now considering that ETF inflow of ETH in the first day amounts to hundred millions of dollars ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F28r5Cjpm%2Fieoryu.png&t=665&c=5O_AUfk8LUahJQ) but nah, it dipped worse than other big 5 coin, knowing that ETH has been quite underperforming this bullrun, this is such a disappointment, it seems as if the market shows lack of interest to ETH. so I'm not really sure whether it can really catch up with bitcoin. I do think that that dip is for big hands to throw off those who already put their money on futures long on ETH, afterwards, we will see the movement up, thus, whales will rebuy the positions of these people with a better price for themselves.
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July 26, 2024, 10:53:18 AM |
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In crypto, the same metaphor is bitcoin (BTC) against ether (ETH). Since the crypto winter ended, bitcoin has outperformed. crypto over ether because historically it goes further and longer than bitcoin in the near future but until now it has underperformed.
If you wanted to explain it, you might suggest that ether developers are constantly tinkering with the blockchain, regularly injecting their new ideas into the system, which may or may not solve the blockchain problems they want to fix and that tinkering decreases the value of ether because inject uncertainty. A group of geniuses tinkering with the crypto financial system, in some ways exactly what governments do with fiat and the reason why those who hate fiat and love crypto want to get out of fiat. So Ethereum developers acting like a central bank might just hinder its valuation. “Code as law” isn't very convincing when some young, faceless programmer can act like Judge Dredd with your bag of crypto. Bitcoin -1.2%, on the other hand, there is almost no such interference and no system flipping every time some developer thinks something is wrong with it. The idea of decentralization is still strong in bitcoin and changing the system is incredibly difficult and the structure is hardly decentralized. bitcoin marches on, seemingly impenetrable to much human influence.
If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
Why would ETH displace BTC in the future? It doesn't make any sense. First off, Ethereum is an inflationary cryptocurrency. And second, it's centralized and less reliable than Bitcoin. You can't beat the real thing. Without BTC, ETH nor any of the zillions of altcoins on the market would exist today. Besides, BTC has first-mover advantage. I understand many ETH holders are optimistic about Ethereum, but lets get realistic. BTC is the original project that started this craze. ETH is just an altcoin that came after BTC. Those are the facts. Set yourself forward 10-20 years, and ETH will still be the #2 cryptocurrency in market cap. Who cares, right? As long as you're able to make money with ETH, nothing else matters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 26, 2024, 12:11:26 PM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
I've experienced when Ethereum took bitcoin's place. It became the number one cryptocurrency. But that day won't never repeat. I meant it's almost impossible for Ethereum to catch up to Bitcoin. People now see Bitcoin as a good asset to invest in.And even many of them call Bitcoin digital gold. It's impossible for Ethereum to catch up to Bitcoin. We are now moving forward, and things are very different compared to the last bull run of 2021. Altcoins are getting weaker now. When the major coin increased a lot, altcoins stayed in the same place. Again, what's the basis of your calculation? You say Ethereum's price will be 1/4 of Bitcoin at $100k per Bitcoin. I meant, why not use the current price of Bitcoin and Ethereum to forecast their prices? It must be probably once bitcoin hits 100k, then we're probably seeing each ethereum worth around 6k - 7k.
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