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Man that was one confusing method to compare eth and fiat, and I reckon it probably isn't even that accurate (can't judge, don't know jack about how fiat changes, if it does even change). Anyhow, highly doubt ETH would surpass Bitcoin, both in price and influence. Plus, with the release of the ETF people were expecting it to go up. But it didn't, even went down afaik. Well I reckon people still see it as a profit since it's still green past that 6 month mark last I checked, but again pretty sure that shows how ETH can in no way, at least with what it's shown so far, exceed Bitcoin and its influence.
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July 26, 2024, 06:08:08 PM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
I agree with the idea that ETH has a bigger potential, bitcoin isn't really doing anything all that great. We need to make sure that we are dealing with something that is taking a bit of a time, and shouldn't really be all that crazy. I think it needs to be something that will take a while, it is not going to be all that easy, we can't make that work. I mean ETH is not near those levels yet, we are talking about something that may take a while, and because of that I honestly think that we are going to face something that is not going to be easy at all. We should consider how things could change with time, and for that to mean something we need to consider how it could grow bigger, and faster.
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i don't think Ethereum will catch up with Bitcoin especially in terms of price, popularity and security. It will not happen, at least in many years to come. While Ethereum has performed wonderfully well as an altcoin, Bitcoin have a strong edge over Ethereum. Apart from being the pioneer cryptocurrency, Bitcoin has gained massive trust over the years. It dominates the crypto space by 55.41% percentage in comparison to Ethereum which has 16.3% percentage. Clearly, Bitcoin is the king of crypto.
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July 27, 2024, 06:04:15 AM |
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i don't think Ethereum will catch up with Bitcoin especially in terms of price, popularity and security. It will not happen, at least in many years to come. While Ethereum has performed wonderfully well as an altcoin, Bitcoin have a strong edge over Ethereum. Apart from being the pioneer cryptocurrency, Bitcoin has gained massive trust over the years. It dominates the crypto space by 55.41% percentage in comparison to Ethereum which has 16.3% percentage. Clearly, Bitcoin is the king of crypto.
true, the dominance is too high with bitcoin, honestly I don't see ETH overtaking BTC market cap anytime soon, even with all things ETH offered people will still stick to BTC because its the first ever crypto. moreover with the presence of BTC L2 maybe ETH will have smaller market share in the future once BTC L2 and ordinals becomes even more popular. but ETH is also dominating in the category of blockchain with smart contract capability, far surpassing the other, so ETH is winning on different category in which excludes BTC. so BTC is king of crypto while ETH is king of smart contract blockchain ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FLX9xH9X9%2Fuitr.png&t=665&c=yyFremYtERlbdA)
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July 27, 2024, 06:29:38 AM |
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chart above speaks a lot ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . ETH will not overtake BTC now and in the future, because BTC is being invested heavily by institutional investors and ETH rarely invested by the same institutions so you know that ETH depends on retailer more which has tendency of panic selling ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . BTC will never get overtaken by any coin in existence.
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July 27, 2024, 04:43:35 PM |
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No I don’t think Ethereum will ever catch up with Bitcoin if what you mean is be a higher $ price or surpass adoption. Bitcoin is the King of crypto & always will be, it’s better in every way. It has a much lower supply with a fixed cap of 21 million, compared to Ethereum where the supply is almost endless. Bitcoin is proof of work compared with proof of stake with Eth. Transaction/Gas are much higher with Ethereum. I don’t see Eth catching up with Bitcoin in any way.
100% correct, the most basic thing is that Ethereum (ETH) loses in terms of age, then scarcity, apart from that they also lose in terms of adoption. Q: But Bitcoin (BTC) doesn't have what advanced blockchains like smart-contracts have? A: With recent developments like Ordinal, isn't it already part of advanced blockchains? although the Bitcoin community doesn't like this. As time goes by, the supply of Ethereum (ETH) will increase, because the supply is unlimited. So what other basis can Ethereum (ETH) surpass Bitcoin (BTC) someday? none at all!
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July 27, 2024, 08:43:53 PM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
All I have seen from your post are just conspiracy theory that are baseless because I don't understand why you need to compare Bitcoin that has 21 million maximum circulating supply and ethereum that has 5 times the circulating supply of Bitcoin. How can you compare Ether that just recently change to proof of stake and it's now even more centralized that is difficult to make their transactions faster, I see no reason why Ether was even created. If Ethereum was to grow today, there is no way Bitcoin wouldn't move. Beside, Bitcoin grow before any other coins follow and Bitcoin will have give big space that it will be impossible for ethereum to cover that space. Some of these things like decentralization and security is the reason why Bitcoin is that too good in value, Ethereum lack these things and that's why they don't get respected it like Bitcoin.
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July 27, 2024, 09:04:50 PM |
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
Yo shouldn’t try to compare them through percentage wise because they’ll not be moving in the same percentage when the bull run arrives. Everyone will be on their upward trajectory movement and won’t have anything in common rather then mining in the same direction. A move in bitcoin always affects all other cryptocurrencies, mostly those established ones that won’t face exit in the market anytime soon in the future. Now OP, your topic is asking if Ethereum can catch up with bitcoin or not, but the truth of the matter is that, Ethereum cannot beat the reach again, it’ll just have his own line of action along side bitcoin but catching up with it is not something imaginable at all, because it won’t even get to that. They’re built on different consensus and technology, so I don’t think the other can overlap the first.
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chart above speaks a lot ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . ETH will not overtake BTC now and in the future, because BTC is being invested heavily by institutional investors and ETH rarely invested by the same institutions so you know that ETH depends on retailer more which has tendency of panic selling ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . BTC will never get overtaken by any coin in existence. While I do agree that ETH will not take over BTC, and I do agree that BTC will never be taken over, my reasoning isn't the whales. Because if whales are investing heavily into btc right now and that seems like a reason, in a year or two maybe something will happen and they will invest into ETH instead of BTC? How could we ever know that will never happen? It may happen and because of that I believe that we are going to end up with something that could get us ETH going higher. I think the main reason is because everyone has already invested very heavily into bitcoin to keep it not going lower than anything else, for that to happen we need more than the market average drop, and bitcoin will not have that. Think about it, if all goes 10% down, btc needs to go down 30% and this has to happen a few times, I doubt that will ever happen let alone a few times. So it is not whales buying btc, it's nobody willing to sell btc more than they are willing to sell other stuff. That's true because it's also not in the market, meaning that it can't be just reverse because people felt like it, it would require a huge shift of funds around, and if that ever happens we can see that before it even happens and be ready.
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July 28, 2024, 06:25:01 AM |
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100% correct, the most basic thing is that Ethereum (ETH) loses in terms of age, then scarcity, apart from that they also lose in terms of adoption.
Q: But Bitcoin (BTC) doesn't have what advanced blockchains like smart-contracts have? A: With recent developments like Ordinal, isn't it already part of advanced blockchains? although the Bitcoin community doesn't like this.
As time goes by, the supply of Ethereum (ETH) will increase, because the supply is unlimited. So what other basis can Ethereum (ETH) surpass Bitcoin (BTC) someday? none at all!
+1 on this, ETH has become quite weak coin honestly that I think solana might get the chance to overtake it maybe next bullrun, even weaker compared to BTC. seeing recent price action where BTC pumps from $62k all the way to $69k and ETH just climbed from $2080 to $2200 is sad really. also, agreed with the ordinal that allows BTC to have functionality similar to ETH and also BTC already has many L2 that allows smart contract and liquid restaking protocol, BTC didn't lose out to ETH in term of functionality at all.
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July 28, 2024, 08:29:49 AM |
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In terms of supply, Ethereum has unlimited supply. In terms of security, Ethereum has inferior security compared to Bitcoin. In terms of popularity, Bitcoin is known more than Ethereum. In terms of price stability, Bitcoin is more stable, and Ethereum gained and lost almost 42% of its value in 3 months.
You shouldn't believe anyone who claims any crypto coin will surpass Bitcoin or even catch up to it in any field, whether it's an altcoin, meme coin, or shitcoin. The only coin that has surpassed Bitcoin is Monero, and only in security.
So no, I don't think Ethereum will ever catch up to Bitcoin.
Nobody knows what will happen in the far future whether Ethereum can level up with Bitcoin, but as of what is on ground and what we can speculate about their future, Bitcoin will always be ahead. In terms of security and popularity like you mentioned, Bitcoin is way ahead of Ethereum, also it's supply is finite and any experienced person in the crypto space should know this fact. The rate of popularity and adoption that Bitcoin is gathering around the world is geometrical, no other cryptocurrency is nearing it, so it'll be next to impossible for Ethereum or any other crypto to compete with Bitcoin.
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No I do not think this is going to happen. Bitcoin will be the always number 1 coin jut because it was the first of them all.
It has a big marketcap of $1.37 Trillion. And the marketcap of Eth is only $405 Billion. I do think there is going to be alot of hodlers for Eth but it will be behind Bitcoin.
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July 29, 2024, 07:08:43 AM |
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No I do not think this is going to happen. Bitcoin will be the always number 1 coin jut because it was the first of them all.
It has a big marketcap of $1.37 Trillion. And the marketcap of Eth is only $405 Billion. I do think there is going to be alot of hodlers for Eth but it will be behind Bitcoin.
Agreed. ETH will be the golden standard of an altcoin, however, BTC will be there waiting at the №1 place.
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July 29, 2024, 04:58:42 PM |
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ETH has become quite weak coin honestly that I think solana might get the chance to overtake it maybe next bullrun, even weaker compared to BTC. seeing recent price action where BTC pumps from $62k all the way to $69k and ETH just climbed from $2080 to $2200 is sad really.
also, agreed with the ordinal that allows BTC to have functionality similar to ETH and also BTC already has many L2 that allows smart contract and liquid restaking protocol, BTC didn't lose out to ETH in term of functionality at all.
In terms of network fundamentals, Solana (SOL) is stronger than Ethereum (ETH), although a while ago there was a congestion or hacking incident on the Solana network, I think it's only a matter of time until Solana completely overtakes Ethereum's MC ranking. What I mean is, how can Ethereum beat Bitcoin, when in terms of technology alone Ethereum has lost to Solana. So, it's just pure bullshit for people to say Ethereum will beat or catch up to Bitcoin.
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July 29, 2024, 06:13:09 PM |
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No I do not think this is going to happen. Bitcoin will be the always number 1 coin jut because it was the first of them all.
It has a big marketcap of $1.37 Trillion. And the marketcap of Eth is only $405 Billion. I do think there is going to be alot of hodlers for Eth but it will be behind Bitcoin.
Agreed. ETH will be the golden standard of an altcoin, however, BTC will be there waiting at the №1 place. Until whenever it will not overtake BTC in my opinion, that's for sure, it's not something that ETH can possibly reach, even with its innovations and with its ecosystem, but there is more trust in bitcoin because no one controls it and with its nature it is much more decentralized than ETH. ETH has become quite weak coin honestly that I think solana might get the chance to overtake it maybe next bullrun, even weaker compared to BTC. seeing recent price action where BTC pumps from $62k all the way to $69k and ETH just climbed from $2080 to $2200 is sad really.
also, agreed with the ordinal that allows BTC to have functionality similar to ETH and also BTC already has many L2 that allows smart contract and liquid restaking protocol, BTC didn't lose out to ETH in term of functionality at all.
In terms of network fundamentals, Solana (SOL) is stronger than Ethereum (ETH), although a while ago there was a congestion or hacking incident on the Solana network, I think it's only a matter of time until Solana completely overtakes Ethereum's MC ranking. What I mean is, how can Ethereum beat Bitcoin, when in terms of technology alone Ethereum has lost to Solana. So, it's just pure bullshit for people to say Ethereum will beat or catch up to Bitcoin. yes if we involve Solana in the discussion and compare with Ethereum of course Solana is much better, and today it is more widely used, and yes some congestion problems on the solana network just need to be fixed and fixed that I think ETH will be overtaken by SOL rather than ETH catching up with BTC, even though ETH is considered a bluechip in the crypto market but indeed the technology has begun to be disrupted by much better competitors.
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If bitcoin experiences its much-anticipated bull run, then ether will go up with it and very likely catch up to bitcoin in percentage terms and possibly keep going, as happened during the last crypto bull run in 2021. An ether investor who is “all in” would also advise that ether will displace bitcoin in the future, and if bitcoin reaches over $100,000, that could mean $25,000 per token for ether.
I couldn’t comprehend your statement and I don’t know what percentage increase you are talking about but all I can tell you for free is that if you are dreaming you should stop because there will Be no way for Etherium to come close to Bitcoin in value not to even talk of catching up Bitcoin in price and everything according to your topic. Altcoins including Ethereium depends on Bitcoin price to move, therefore, they can have some good percentage increase in price for some time, but they can never come close to bitcoin in value.
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In terms of network fundamentals, Solana (SOL) is stronger than Ethereum (ETH), although a while ago there was a congestion or hacking incident on the Solana network, I think it's only a matter of time until Solana completely overtakes Ethereum's MC ranking. What I mean is, how can Ethereum beat Bitcoin, when in terms of technology alone Ethereum has lost to Solana. So, it's just pure bullshit for people to say Ethereum will beat or catch up to Bitcoin.
the network congestion thing will probably get solved, i heard there's already solution for it and currently on testing in solana. couldn't agree more with your last statement, ethereum is stagnating in term of technology, too much depending on its L2 and rollups to solve scalability while the main blockchain just stays the same. ETH need to speed up the blockchain and solve scalability issue in the main blockchain if it wants to retain its position as the number 2 biggest crypto, otherwise solana will be a big contender that will slowly taking market cap of ETH little by little.
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July 30, 2024, 02:47:44 AM |
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We have seen Bitcoin become a reserve currency for major companies and even some nations like El Salvador continue to accumulate it. U.S. politicians are campaigning on the idea of creating a strategic Bitcoin reserve. If they were campaigning on creating an Ethereum reserve they would not be taken very seriously. It would also be ridiculous to think of Tesla holding over half a billion dollars of Ethereum on their balance sheet, like they do with Bitcoin.
Because of the constant changes in monetary policy, Ethereum is not a great store of value. Ethereum was supposed to revolutionize finance but instead it recreated something similar to fiat. Exploits and rugpulls are also a major issue that has persisted through the years because there is no easy way to make decentralized finance secure.
Ethereum still has wide enough support that it will continue to exist and its value will go up over time, but there are some big enough downsides that will prevent it from overtaking Bitcoin.
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July 30, 2024, 05:45:24 AM |
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In terms of network fundamentals, Solana (SOL) is stronger than Ethereum (ETH), although a while ago there was a congestion or hacking incident on the Solana network, I think it's only a matter of time until Solana completely overtakes Ethereum's MC ranking. What I mean is, how can Ethereum beat Bitcoin, when in terms of technology alone Ethereum has lost to Solana. So, it's just pure bullshit for people to say Ethereum will beat or catch up to Bitcoin.
the network congestion thing will probably get solved, i heard there's already solution for it and currently on testing in solana. couldn't agree more with your last statement, ethereum is stagnating in term of technology, too much depending on its L2 and rollups to solve scalability while the main blockchain just stays the same. ETH need to speed up the blockchain and solve scalability issue in the main blockchain if it wants to retain its position as the number 2 biggest crypto, otherwise solana will be a big contender that will slowly taking market cap of ETH little by little. Yeah, ETH should go with a blast if it wants to stay in the place it is now, I hope for the main chain to bring something new to the table, like better terms for solo staking, minimizing quarantine box for reducing the harm from the builders, etc. But from the looks of things and from articles from Vitalik Buterin, there are new things coming ahead, so I hope for the better.
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July 30, 2024, 03:14:39 PM |
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yes if we involve Solana in the discussion and compare with Ethereum of course Solana is much better, and today it is more widely used, and yes some congestion problems on the solana network just need to be fixed and fixed that I think ETH will be overtaken by SOL rather than ETH catching up with BTC, even though ETH is considered a bluechip in the crypto market but indeed the technology has begun to be disrupted by much better competitors.
True, currently Solana (SOL) has about $83B and Ethereum (ETH) has almost $400B, although almost 5x multiples, but it makes more sense that Solana will catch up to Ethereum than Ethereum chasing Bitcoin (BTC) which has a lower multiplier from the MC side.
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