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August 22, 2024, 05:46:40 PM
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I consider this normal simply based on the laws of operation of any business.  Including in the gambling industry.  This law clearly tells us that minimizing expenses and maximizing income is what any normal, sane businessman does, and this is obvious and correct.  So, any businessman will reduce expenses that, to some extent, can be considered not entirely necessary or that can simply not be spent.
I beg to disagree with you about this law you quoted my friend, no law states you should minimize cost thereby abandoning your statutory responsibility for standard service to your client/customer. You are only bringing this out of the company's consideration for productivity which will be selfish if they lag in their required responsible service.
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But I also disagree with you simply for the reason that the issues of the need or absence of KYC in casinos, which are fully operational in the legal sphere of regulation by laws or rules from local regulators, allow them to be interpreted with some deviations.  And if a business sees that a permissible deviation from the rule of law, which is not a violation of the law, will reduce its costs, then obviously it will take advantage of it.  The example discussed in this topic of a casino refusing to accept documents may very well be such a case.  I would call this situation in legal regulation “permissible deviation of the rule of law.”  A similar situation occurs in almost all areas of legal regulation.

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August 23, 2024, 09:54:45 AM
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Basic verifications may take a few minutes to verify through an automated system but some people get the fake verifications get approved though this system. If at any time the casino randomly checks the verifications or they need to investigate any gamblers and by chance, if they find doubt in the KYC verification, it may get the account terminated or block the casino. I think that automated KYC procedures casino aren't reliable and some sites may not a strong check system in place to distinguish between real and fake documents.
This verification of a thing is not so burdensome as some people take it and as the automated verification could verify the fake documents at times, so is the manual verification. This can only mean that no means of verification is perfect, not even in the airports, some passports and visas are not actually from the right authorities but would still be passed by them. If a well-equipped and sophisticated point of entry could be deceived that much, casinos should not prove to be the hero, many fake documents would pass their radar undetected. Even the government knows this, but what the government is required of them is to do their part and leave the rest, they can't be perfect.
Automated verification is enough easy to cheat. i saw services that sell peoples` data with id and some other documents. When someone knows what is checked(for example compare name/surname in the account information and in the id) - it would be easy to use some kind of such services. And such account will be KYCed - it wilnn`t has any restrictions for withdraw. Only manual KYC, may be with required videocall.

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August 23, 2024, 12:33:22 PM
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Automated verification is enough easy to cheat. i saw services that sell peoples` data with id and some other documents. When someone knows what is checked(for example compare name/surname in the account information and in the id) - it would be easy to use some kind of such services. And such account will be KYCed - it wilnn`t has any restrictions for withdraw. Only manual KYC, may be with required videocall.

Automated verification usually ask of selfie holding the ID use for KYC that makes it very hard to cheat by someone who bought only ID to use in KYC. There are some user providing full KYC services including the selfie however this kind of cheat can’t be avoided even by manual verification since it fully satisfies KYC procedure.

I really prefer automatic verification process because it’s quick and easy to be approved compared to manual KYC that usually take some time to be approved due to the volume they are handling for manual verification.

I think most casino use automated verification to speed up the process. I’m not sure whether FJ use it too since they refuse to do pre KYC.

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August 23, 2024, 02:46:45 PM
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I take long breaks of days without betting, because this requires time to analyze the performance of the clubs. I personally don't let emotions affect my betting decisions, this makes the probability of chasing losses drop considerably.

It is a very good strategy, I consider that each person has their style to play, to pose and that is very valid, in itself what is sought is to have the best strategy that can be adapted to the personality of each person, I personally do not make sports bets every day, I only realize that I have a very good chance of winning, and I think that for me that is only better, whether I win or not, because I also realize that it was what I took into consideration to make a particular bet, Always the most important thing before any bet, whether you win or lose, know why it happened and learn.

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August 23, 2024, 07:28:01 PM
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Automated verification is enough easy to cheat. i saw services that sell peoples` data with id and some other documents. When someone knows what is checked(for example compare name/surname in the account information and in the id) - it would be easy to use some kind of such services. And such account will be KYCed - it wilnn`t has any restrictions for withdraw. Only manual KYC, may be with required videocall.

It seems that you haven't done automated verification for a long time. Systems have evolved and improved a lot from what they were and it has become more difficult to cheat them. Personally, I completed automated verification a week ago on my trading platform and I was surprised by the speed and perfection of the procedures without any need for manual intervention. All the program did was match my selfie photo with the photo on my passport and it did not take more than a few seconds to finish and get a fully activated account. Some casinos may still rely on manual verification and this is somewhat understandable since human evaluation is more accurate in cases of manipulation and therefore automated verification is not enough, in addition to the fact that manual verification takes time, especially if the user intends to make withdrawals, meaning that he can bet part or all of the withdrawal amount while waiting for the manual verification procedures to be completed.

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August 23, 2024, 08:31:55 PM
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It is a very good strategy, I consider that each person has their style to play, to pose and that is very valid, in itself what is sought is to have the best strategy that can be adapted to the personality of each person, I personally do not make sports bets every day, I only realize that I have a very good chance of winning, and I think that for me that is only better, whether I win or not, because I also realize that it was what I took into consideration to make a particular bet, Always the most important thing before any bet, whether you win or lose, know why it happened and learn.

Yes, when I don't have good expectations about both teams it's better not to bet at that moment, I always select matches to bet on that I have more affinity with as well, in addition to checking whether the teams are in good shape or not.

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