Question to the crystal ball.

[Mr.right85]

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

Perhaps you didn’t give it a good rub else, you would have seen the wobbling and sparky tornado cloud spiral roll am seeing to tell you that, you’ve just got to cover the crystal ball with a black cloth to just rest it after the mixer displacement.
It needs to cool it’s mystical realm of brightly, roygbiv colored and misty atmosphere. We would have a better shot at it in a few years, for now, we still and signature spaces may persist.

[bbc.reporter]

If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

These people will get a hard time using the forum or even criticize how the site looks like (due to  the old-looking design of this forum knowing these same people have different view of the future) and operates despite how technology grows on the past few years, this is in relation of UX and modern web design.

Hehehehehe it will not only be the old design of the forum or their difficulty of using the forum. This will certainly be because there are many low quality posts and spamming. A newbie who will read the gambling subforum for advice will certainly be confused because much of the people are posting gibberish and kicking the deadhorse repeatedly.

The horse had 100 heart attacks and dead already. Everyone should stop kicking him be to become alive again hehehehe.

[Poker Player]

Hehehehehe it will not only be the old design of the forum or their difficulty of using the forum. This will certainly be because there are many low quality posts and spamming.

Regardless of what Musk and others can do, in the past there was a lot of alts and spamming and this was a site that attracted quite a few advertisers. I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

[DaveF]

I have said it many times over the years, signature campaigns are nothing new to internet forums.

Going back to pre Y2K days I had a paid signature on a motorcycle forum.
And this was before PayPal was even a thing for online payments. We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.

Then PayPal came and it all went nuts for a while.

-Dave

Because of that, I think signature campaigns are going to stay around for a long time. Pay rates may drop, or requirements may change.  But, since they have been around for decades across various forums I don't see them going away.

-Dave

[JollyGood]

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

That is the inevitable fact. Maybe one day signature campaigns will not have any useful impact on advertising and that could lead to businesses completely abandoning the forum. As for storing BTC, that sounds very reasonable because even though it is being earned today by posting, one day it could be worth a phenomenal amount when comparing to major international fiat currencies.

I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

In the near future one of the things that might happen if a balance between declining forum traffic and increasing traffic elsewhere is to be found, is signature campaigns remaining ongoing but payouts significantly reduced. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

[Oshosondy]

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban. I guess most of them on this forum are here to earn money. It is more like this forum is taking their time just like something is motivating them to earn more money just like the job someone is doing.

[Apocollapse]

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban. I guess most of them on this forum are here to earn money. It is more like this forum is taking their time just like something is motivating them to earn more money just like the job someone is doing.

It always been like that.

When they don't earn anything from this forum, they will reduce their activity. Not only limited to signature space, but avatar space, personal text space, or title like moderators do count.

Moment of the truth is waiting until their campaign ends and there are no signature campaign that suit on them.

Only few users are here not for money, some of them are in Bitcoin Discussion and WO thread.

[TheUltraElite]

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban.

I think I have mentioned this previously in other threads, but I will repeat it once more so that it makes sense.

When I was booted from my previous campaign there was a ~1m period when I was out of any campaigns and no new campaign had opened their doors yet. In that times I took the initiative of visiting my local board and getting it active once again. Because of posting constraints I often posted in smaller numbers there but since then I had time and no constraints it was easier.

People should remain active even if their previous campaign stops, coming to the forum only for participating in campaigns looks bad.

[NotATether]

I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

In the near future one of the things that might happen if a balance between declining forum traffic and increasing traffic elsewhere is to be found, is signature campaigns remaining ongoing but payouts significantly reduced. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

Companies pay users based on the amount of people they think will see the signature that the users wear. That's why during a bull run when there are so many users coming over here looking at Bitcoin Discussion, rates naturally get higher. And of course there was a perpetual demand for mixers, which for a long time had their largest user base here, so the high rates they paid come from that.

[Pmalek]

Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion. Since then, we have seen a constant decline in payrates. It wasn't long ago when the best forum members could earn $200 a week from their signature space. Those times are gone. The best campaigns now pay $90 to $100 a week. We are already seeing drops to the $70 to $50 zone, and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

[TheUltraElite]

Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion

But there is nothing we can do about it - right?

So better to follow suit and continue to take part in the discussions like we have done in the past. We might see new campaigns come up and eventually the rate of new posts will go up. The forum might be going through a phase affected by the type of campaigns being run and the users currently active.

No big news in crypto at present means lesser new registrations of legit users.

[Apocollapse]

Now look, the traffic is slowly increasing started from July 23 till now.

There was a new campaign opened in July 25 which is Dgbet, and other new campaigns like Stead.Defi in August 1, The Change Ltd in August 9, Cryptomus and Godex in August 12, then Weiss in August 13.

Since both Stead.Defi and Dgbet will likely end in the next week, while Godex and Cryptomus not yet started, I expect the traffic will relatively same since two new campaigns will replace two ended campaigns.

[Pmalek]

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It's also worth to note that July and August is the time people go on their summer holidays. Forum members may be away from their homes and also taking a break from posting on Bitcointalk. As they return to their usual routines, we might see the traffic recover somewhat, but it's not going to get back up to what we had 6 months ago or at this time last year.

[Z-tight]

and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

If that happens then the forum traffic is going to take a very big hit, i know some people like to say the forum isn't just about signature campaigns, which i agree, but the truth is that the signature campaigns contribute a lot to the traffic in the forum and also pushes many users to get better at their post.

Since both Stead.Defi and Dgbet will likely end in the next week, while Godex and Cryptomus not yet started, I expect the traffic will relatively same since two new campaigns will replace two ended campaigns.

We'll see what happens with that, there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

[hugeblack]

Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion. Since then, we have seen a constant decline in payrates. It wasn't long ago when the best forum members could earn $200 a week from their signature space. Those times are gone. The best campaigns now pay $90 to $100 a week. We are already seeing drops to the $70 to $50 zone, and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

I don't think we will go below $50 or $30 in the worst case especially with gambling campaigns.
The new trend might be exchanges as in the past ICOs were dominant and then mixers so the forum is renewed periodically otherwise its value would have decreased since 2015 when the best members stopped posting. You can read posts by DannyHamilton and how the forum has become a bad place since 2014.

The difficulty will be if you have a problem with gambling signatures, here your chances will be very limited.

[robelneo]

... there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

I'm sure there will be more campaigns. The campaign managers and their staff never stopped working to introduce Bitcointalk as the best place to advertise their businesses. Hats off to Royse777, Icopress, Hhampuz, and all the other managers who keep this business going.

I'm sure it's not easy because so many businesses or projects still do not know how Bitcointalk works and are not aware of its potential as a platform for building their brand.

[NotATether]

... there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

I'm sure there will be more campaigns. The campaign managers and their staff never stopped working to introduce Bitcointalk as the best place to advertise their businesses. Hats off to Royse777, Icopress, Hhampuz, and all the other managers who keep this business going.

I'm sure it's not easy because so many businesses or projects still do not know how Bitcointalk works and are not aware of its potential as a platform for building their brand.

Even now there are so many campaigns that are being launched, no need to wait for some time soon.

Naturally the new services that come here would like to make use of the extra advertising space that is available when people fall out of a signature, so in a way the situation with there being enough campaigns and not enough of them just repeats itself on an endless cycle.

[betswift]

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

Yep, people can only hope that they will continue them, but that's all right, as long as there are other reputable campaigns going.

[DaveF]

Just as a side comment a local Harley dealer who knows that since I got my last bike I have been spending a lot of time in some LiveWire forums asked me if I was interested in having a post tag (their name for signatures)  for their dealer.

Offered $1 a post or $1.5 in store credit a post totaled monthly. A pittance compared to here BUT LiveWire(the brand not the dealer) have barely been selling 1000 bikes a year so it's a real small market.

-Dave