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July 26, 2024, 03:00:01 PM
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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
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July 26, 2024, 03:26:02 PM
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I don’t know if I believe in impending doom if they don’t lower rates in 5-10 days but it’s clear they must start this year. I think I read it’s highly likely they begin cutting in September. Anything before that would be great though.

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July 26, 2024, 04:37:23 PM
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How do you get the information or data that if the Fed doesn't reduce interest rates the world will collapse? Coming up with a source or a more detailed analysis would help us understand your position. The Fed's target is to reduce interest rates when inflation rates is 2% target or below but the rate is about 2.7%. But the decline in the US job market might force the Fed to reduce the interest rate maybe two times this year. But I am not sure that this reduction won't happen in the July meeting.

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July 26, 2024, 05:17:47 PM
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We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.

Call me in 10 days!

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You have nothing, and honestly, only ou get tired of those?
How many accounts, how many topics, how many of everything are you going to post just in the end to look like a fool and a broken record that spouts nonsense? Don't you think it's time to move on? Do something worthwhile with your time even if it seems you have like an infinite supply of free time.

How do you get the information or data that if the Fed doesn't reduce interest rates the world will collapse?

Mushrooms, alcohol, heat, boredom, mental problems, plenty of sources for even the weirdest scenarios.

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July 26, 2024, 05:20:39 PM
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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info

Who are they and where is the link to the source on this?

We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.

Are you part of those that have made this discussion and are ready to put effect on its implementation, because over many years now, we have been hearing a lot of warnings and signals about this and that, yet nothing has happened and the world has not ended.

The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.

This is not possible, they know how to maneuver their way through, this is not the first time the interest rate is rising or falling.


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July 26, 2024, 05:24:18 PM
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The Fed is no joke at all. They play a part in maintaining the financial machine in perfect functioning order. But the belief that without them we are doomed? Pure theatrics. We are a strong species having gone through worse. This is only a change of market; it is not the end. Panic does not get us anywhere

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July 26, 2024, 08:24:13 PM
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The US crumbles and goes default and a few countries go with it.
But its not the end of the world.

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The US crumbles and goes default and a few countries go with it.
But its not the end of the world.
And it can never be the end of the world; the only implication won't be far from what the world is already facing (economic hardship).
 
There is no doubt that a low interest rate can bring about great opportunity in solving some of the economic crises, but it can never be as harsh as when the OP is predicting that everything will end in the coming days. If not, he or she is just being delusional.

 
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And it can never be the end of the world; the only implication won't be far from what the world is already facing (economic hardship).
 
There is no doubt that a low interest rate can bring about great opportunity in solving some of the economic crises, but it can never be as harsh as when the OP is predicting that everything will end in the coming days. If not, he or she is just being delusional.

Reducing interest rates is not necessarily a great opportunity to solve some economic crises, it all depends. Just like the current situation, inflation has not shown signs of cooling down significantly and inflation is still not under control, reducing interest rates now will not be good for the economy. It will cause even greater inflation if the Fed suddenly cuts interest rates and that is why they still have no intention of cutting interest rates even though many people complain about keeping interest rates at high levels for a long time.

Interest rates that are too high or too low both have advantages and disadvantages and depending on the economic situation, the Fed will offer the most appropriate interest rate to keep the economy in the best state.

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July 27, 2024, 06:10:03 AM
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However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

couldn't agree more with this statement, it's hedge against inflation, the big guys like black rock seems to think the same way too, so i guess i will also just try to accumulate.

with the uncertain economic situation right now, seems like accumulation of gold, lands, crypto or whatever it is that could help us fight against inflation becomes multiple fold more interesting than ever before.
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The world won’t end. Some companies will go bankrupt, many people will lose their jobs and life will go on. The FED shouldn’t lower the rates because these zombie corporations didn’t deserve to exist in the first place. If they lower the rates in September, and it looks like they will, then nothing will get fixed. We will have the same inflation problem back in our hands.

The fix, the solution, the medication should give us pain. It is the only way to recover from this state of sickness.

Too many mistakes happened in the past and to rewind the process, many people will have to suffer. There is no easy way out. Don’t worry though the FED can’t afford to fix the real problem. Nobody can.

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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
LOL this is like those shitty mainstream medias that use "reliable sources that wanted to remain unnamed" and then say whatever they want Cheesy

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We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
Usually when you want to make weird predictions like this, you should extend the period to something far longer than 10 days so that people don't remember what you said by then Wink

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The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
No, it is only funding the US regime's adventures while exporting that inflation to stupid countries that willingly buy it from FED.

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In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
The economic hardship, inflation and recession are getting worse but things won't "collapse" anytime soon. Specially since the world is dedollarizing and the more they do it the less they'll be affected by the US economic collapse.

Quote
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.
Only stupidest people who have no understanding of the cryptocurrency world think a centralized shitcoin controlled by a shady company called "stablecoin" is a reliable thing.



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We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
You think highly of yourself to give them that clockdown.

However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.
I might agree with you on that but for crypto not with stablecoins. But it is obvious that you're in a bitcoin forum and a world's renown crypto forum for which whoever has cryptocurrencies on hold are the smartest one mainly bitcoin. And that is because we prefer to invest into crypto, bitcoin or if we've got other investments, we've got more of it because this is how we're making money here and we're avoiding the direct hit from fiat that's being caused by the feds.

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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
LOL this is like those shitty mainstream medias that use "reliable sources that wanted to remain unnamed" and then say whatever they want Cheesy

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We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
Usually when you want to make weird predictions like this, you should extend the period to something far longer than 10 days so that people don't remember what you said by then Wink

Quote
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
No, it is only funding the US regime's adventures while exporting that inflation to stupid countries that willingly buy it from FED.

Quote
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
The economic hardship, inflation and recession are getting worse but things won't "collapse" anytime soon. Specially since the world is dedollarizing and the more they do it the less they'll be affected by the US economic collapse.

Quote
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.
Only stupidest people who have no understanding of the cryptocurrency world think a centralized shitcoin controlled by a shady company called "stablecoin" is a reliable thing.



I'll see you again in 10 days...


I talked with top experts they told we might not have 10 days Even USA moneymarkets are empty of money all ready
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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

well the adjustment is due July 31. So your 5-10day part is right.

My guess is no cut and we crash.

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This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

well the adjustment is due July 31. So your 5-10day part is right.

My guess is no cut and we crash.

Yes you are right they don't cut but in 2 months they will
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World is about collapse If fed don't lower rates

Even if the Fed doesn't cut interest rates this year, it could never cause the world economy to collapse . It might be more difficult if they were determined to keep interest rates high for a long time, but causing a collapse would be unlikely because that wouldn't be in the Fed's interest either.
Have you ever thought that if the Fed let the world economy collapse, how would that benefit them ? They gain nothing by letting the economy collapse.

Don't try to teach them what to do and what should be done to help the economy because they are the creators of this game and we are just their puppets.

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World is about collapse If fed don't lower rates

Even if the Fed doesn't cut interest rates this year, it could never cause the world economy to collapse . It might be more difficult if they were determined to keep interest rates high for a long time, but causing a collapse would be unlikely because that wouldn't be in the Fed's interest either.
Have you ever thought that if the Fed let the world economy collapse, how would that benefit them ? They gain nothing by letting the economy collapse.

Don't try to teach them what to do and what should be done to help the economy because they are the creators of this game and we are just their puppets.

they have a vested interest in crashing this. world wide economy is very much like musical chairs. 🪑 there is a lot of wealth and there are chairs and there are people. if you do not play the music every one will stay put in a chair and the wealth won’t flow from sector to sector . the fed is the music 🎶 and raising and lowering rates forces wealth to shift around.

We all know
real estate = a wealth sector
precious metal = a wealth sector
stocks = a wealth sector
bonds = a wealth sector
arts+ collectibles = a wealth sector
cash+ cds = a wealth sector
insurance + annuities = a wealth sector.


high rates mean bonds whale 🐳 high rates are good for insurance and annuities.

In the USA boomers are aging out and becoming demented with dementia.

And boomers hold about six trillion in private Long term care policies and annuities.

The 10 biggest companies running those accounts have five to six trillion in assets which by usa law need to be in bonds.
in late 2021 and early 2022 every one of those ten companies was facing possible bankruptcy due to  extended time of low bond interest rates. the only way to save them was to raise fed rates or kill all the demented boomers collecting from their policies .

Well they did kill lots of people in nursing homes in 2020 2021 and 2022 but the pandemic kill rate was not enough for a bailout thus rates got jacked up 🆙. I know all this as I am caring for my bro in law he has two policies one at Genworth  one at John Hancock.  These companies ratings have risen with the rates.

https://ratings.ambest.com/DisclosurePDF.aspx?AMBNum=6681 john hancock is now A+ and aa- long term

https://ratings.ambest.com/DisclosurePDF.aspx?AMBNum=59780 genworth is now B+ long term

both have picked way up due to high rates

all these companies would like the high rates.  but of course real estate wants low. crypto want low stock market wants low.


if the feds can crash things if will stop inflation for a few years. they can lower rates and the cycle repeats.

if the feds lowers rates and prevents a crash inflation will not stagger and its a fail.

I figure they crash it all one more time. So I look for flat rates July 31 and maybe a cut in sept.

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World is about collapse If fed don't lower rates

Even if the Fed doesn't cut interest rates this year, it could never cause the world economy to collapse . It might be more difficult if they were determined to keep interest rates high for a long time, but causing a collapse would be unlikely because that wouldn't be in the Fed's interest either.
Have you ever thought that if the Fed let the world economy collapse, how would that benefit them ? They gain nothing by letting the economy collapse.

Don't try to teach them what to do and what should be done to help the economy because they are the creators of this game and we are just their puppets.

they have a vested interest in crashing this. world wide economy is very much like musical chairs. 🪑 there is a lot of wealth and there are chairs and there are people. if you do not play the music every one will stay put in a chair and the wealth won’t flow from sector to sector . the fed is the music 🎶 and raising and lowering rates forces wealth to shift around.

We all know
real estate = a wealth sector
precious metal = a wealth sector
stocks = a wealth sector
bonds = a wealth sector
arts+ collectibles = a wealth sector
cash+ cds = a wealth sector
insurance + annuities = a wealth sector.


high rates mean bonds whale 🐳 high rates are good for insurance and annuities.

In the USA boomers are aging out and becoming demented with dementia.

And boomers hold about six trillion in private Long term care policies and annuities.

The 10 biggest companies running those accounts have five to six trillion in assets which by usa law need to be in bonds.
in late 2021 and early 2022 every one of those ten companies was facing possible bankruptcy due to  extended time of low bond interest rates. the only way to save them was to raise fed rates or kill all the demented boomers collecting from their policies .

Well they did kill lots of people in nursing homes in 2020 2021 and 2022 but the pandemic kill rate was not enough for a bailout thus rates got jacked up 🆙. I know all this as I am caring for my bro in law he has two policies one at Genworth  one at John Hancock.  These companies ratings have risen with the rates.

https://ratings.ambest.com/DisclosurePDF.aspx?AMBNum=6681 john hancock is now A+ and aa- long term

https://ratings.ambest.com/DisclosurePDF.aspx?AMBNum=59780 genworth is now B+ long term

both have picked way up due to high rates

all these companies would like the high rates.  but of course real estate wants low. crypto want low stock market wants low.


if the feds can crash things if will stop inflation for a few years. they can lower rates and the cycle repeats.

if the feds lowers rates and prevents a crash inflation will not stagger and its a fail.

I figure they crash it all one more time. So I look for flat rates July 31 and maybe a cut in sept.


My top experts agree with you i see you got good info
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July 28, 2024, 01:05:38 PM
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I figure they crash it all one more time. So I look for flat rates July 31 and maybe a cut in sept.

According to the most recent meeting, Chairman Jerome Powell also confirmed there will be at least one interest rate cut this year , and the Fed will have two more meetings this year: in September and December. Therefore, more than 90% predict an interest rate cut will fall in September this year when it has not happened in July . It is not difficult to predict.
But if you look at Q2 GDP which was 2.8% and it was double the 1.4% of Q1 and we need to know that GDP has increased, we cannot ask inflation not to increase . Therefore, whether the Fed will reduce interest rates in September or not is still uncertain . They can continue not to lower interest rates if the indexes do not meet their expectations .


source: bloomberg finance

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