Will Kamala Harris be the first apolitical U.S. presidential candidate?

[alani123]

We've had a week of Kamala Harris campaigning for president and all her talking and campaign points are apolitical.

A collaboration with a millennial British singer Charli XCX, light hearted memes for not knowing how to properly use phrasal verbs such as saying "you fell out of a coconut tree" instead of using the common "fell out of the sky" phrase... Clips that she enjoys to have a laugh, ads about her being a prosecutor in the past...

I don't get it. Are Democrats stupid or something? Do they think only gen Zers are watching TV and internet clips? Can't they realize that trying to act cool was the exact reason they faced a downfall against Trump with Hillary Clinton in 2016?

If Democrats wanted to come out with popular policies against Trump's ideology they could have just clung to their voting base of working class Americans, doubled down on Biden's promise to limit incarceration for non-violent crimes, end student loans and adopt some policies already proposed by strong factions in their party, such as limiting foreign influence campaigns, stopping ammunition donations to Israel, Promoting a ceasefire in the Ukraine... But no! Instead they choose to differentiate their campaign for the presidency from Trump's on minuscule things such as VIBES and having a better sense of humor.

Instead of talking about politics, they just choose to attack Trump, Vance, Project 2025, calling them names and their politics bad. Why not just talk about some better politics if you're so superior? propose some better solutions maybe? As things stand, we just get a taste that they pretend to be better by painting their opponent as the worse. Is this what would get Americans off their couch to vote? I doubt it.

What do you think about this?

[mindrust]

Are Democrats stupid or something?

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

[DeathAngel]

Are Democrats stupid or something?

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

Agree with this & fully agree that it’s an attempt by the liberal left media to manipulate swing voters. Hopefully Trump wins by a landslide, that’s best for crypto & the US in general.

[alani123]

Are Democrats stupid or something?

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

It's funny, it was headline news that Kamala Harris seemed to have a very narrow margin ahead of trump in a couple of polls, but nobody batted an eye that Trump had a much wider margin winning against her in every other poll where the two are head to head. NYT/Forbes/WSJ polls all showed Trump leading by up to 3 percentage points, while the two polls that showed Harris leading, it was only 1 percentage point.

Apparently this isn't newsworthy enough to make it into the headlines and central news shows... Maybe a tiny an improvement from Biden but where would it go from there? Probably as more of the hypocrisy comes out, people are going to be sick of Harris just as they became sick of Biden.

[legiteum]

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Instead they choose to differentiate their campaign for the presidency from Trump's on minuscule things such as VIBES and having a better sense of humor.

The Harris campaign is a lot bigger than the dozen or so TikTok videos you seemed to have watched.

This election is about one thing: do Americans want abortion to be illegal in the USA... or not?

If you want abortion to be criminalized across the USA, then you vote for Trump.

If you want abortion to stay legal like is has been, vote for Harris.

This is a massive, massive change to the American lifestyle and a policy that will directly or indirectly affect almost every American.

Personalities don't matter. Bitcoin doesn't matter. Things that actually changes peoples lives matters.

[alani123]

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Instead they choose to differentiate their campaign for the presidency from Trump's on minuscule things such as VIBES and having a better sense of humor.

The Harris campaign is a lot bigger than the dozen or so TikTok videos you seemed to have watched.

This election is about one thing: do Americans want abortion to be illegal in the USA... or not?

If you want abortion to be criminalized across the USA, then you vote for Trump.

If you want abortion to stay legal like is has been, vote for Harris.

This is a massive, massive change to the American lifestyle and a policy that will directly or indirectly affect almost every American.

Personalities don't matter. Bitcoin doesn't matter. Things that actually changes peoples lives matters.

Many people in the US are fond of free and uninterrupted abortion access for all women. Sure. But how is Ms Harris going to achieve this? Let's not forget that the supreme court ended the right to abortion under Biden's administration. If it was possible to strengthen abortion access why didn't Kamala do it under Biden's administration? It's funny actually, she still has time to do it if possible as she's still the ruling vice president.

And besides, there's also many class-based issues that Kamala Harris should address if she wants to win over the working class. I'm yet to see any talking points for these issues from her.

[legiteum]

Many people in the US are fond of free and uninterrupted abortion access for all women. Sure. But how is Ms Harris going to achieve this? Let's not forget that the supreme court ended the right to abortion under Biden's administration. If it was possible to strengthen abortion access why didn't Kamala do it under Biden's administration? It's funny actually, she still has time to do it if possible as she's still the ruling vice president.

Maybe you should do a little more research about the USA before weighing in on US politics , but...

Abortion in the United States is legal in most states today, as it has been in the modern era.

Biden/Harris cannot secure this right for all states because there is a Republican majority in the US House of Representatives. They have indeed introduced several bills, and Republicans have made sure they were all voted down. Republicans are dedicated to reversing existing US law and making abortion illegal, so obviously they are not going to help Democrats do the opposite.

What Biden/Harris did do is defend against the frivolous lawsuits Republicans have initiated to make the abortion pill and other abortion procedures illegal, and Biden/Harris have prevented things like politicians trying to track and publicly shame women who have or have had abortions by defending privacy laws.

Trump, if elected, won't defend against any of those lawsuits, obviously, which means that abortion could be defacto criminalized in the USA in a matter of weeks after he is elected, and Congress will not have had any say in this.

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And besides, there's also many class-based issues that Kamala Harris should address if she wants to win over the working class. I'm yet to see any talking points for these issues from her.

Again, you'll need to spend more than a few minutes on TikTok in order to make a judgement about the Harris policy platform. Biden, and now Harris, talk constantly about issues very important to the working class, the most important non-abortion issue being healthcare, wherein they vow to protect Obamacare, which Republicans vow to repeal. Working class people in the US are ruined by healthcare costs, and only Democrats are offering solutions to bring those costs down.

Perhaps you should listen to any standard Harris stump speech at one of her rallies? She covers all of these things every day, many times a day...

[alani123]

Biden/Harris cannot secure this right for all states because there is a Republican majority in the US House of Representatives.

You're not making much sense here. Biden had 2 years as president with both the house and senate under a Democratic majority and still failed to introduce any executive orders making abortion a right. It's easy to blame everyone else, but this one is 100% on their administration.

Biden, and now Harris, talk constantly about issues very important to the working class, the most important non-abortion issue being healthcare, wherein they vow to protect Obamacare, which Republicans vow to repeal. Working class people in the US are ruined by healthcare costs, and only Democrats are offering solutions to bring those costs down.

ORLY? Because reality says otherwise. Yes, they talk about many things, but Harris is already tried and tested. She has failed to deliver to all promises she made that would actually make the lives of Americans better.

The above is just one of the many broken promises Biden/Harris completely failed to deliver on.
Early on their campaign for the Democratic candidacy they would do everything to stifle Bernie. They would counter him saying they also had plans for education and would go as far as to cancel all student loans.
Well, years later seems like Biden/Harris bowed to corporate interests too hard and only delivered on this promise on a very lackluster manner.

Americans were though Bernie fighting for an expansive public health and medicare system, and Biden just stepped right in with his cronies, including Harris, to completely block that plan.

The Biden administration is also responsible for stalling the right to organize act which they failed to pass even under democratic majority from congress... Union busting happened at record pace under the Biden administration with Starbucks and Amazon being able to stall successful union organization by dragging it through the court system for years.

Moreover, Biden/Harris completely failed to deliver on environmental promises. Biden completely broke all his anti-fracking and green energy promises, and in spite of that utility costs under their administration skyrocketed.

Same for promises on peace, Under Biden and Harris we had a record amount of babies killed by U.S. weapons. The amount of baby deaths Kamala Harris is responsible as vice president is only rivaled by agent orange and the atomic bombs.

If anything, Biden and Harris are terrible leftists. No wonder people are starting to have a disdain for liberals. They've completely forgotten what class means. They don't know what peace means, and they'll sell the environment out for a few corporate bucks.

[legiteum]

Biden/Harris cannot secure this right for all states because there is a Republican majority in the US House of Representatives.

You're not making much sense here. Biden had 2 years as president with both the house and senate under a Democratic majority and still failed to introduce any executive orders making abortion a right. It's easy to blame everyone else, but this one is 100% on their administration.

Executive orders are something the president does, not Congress. And executive orders are very limited, e.g. what to defend and not defend.

The Dobbs decision was not ruled upon until after Republicans had a majority in the House.

ORLY? Because reality says otherwise. Yes, they talk about many things, but Harris is already tried and tested. She has failed to deliver to all promises she made that would actually make the lives of Americans better.

Harris has been the vice-president of the United States, not the president. In the US, the vice-president does not have any direct legislative powers, or veto power.

I don't know what specific promises you are talking about, so I can't comment on what may have been broken or not.

They would counter him saying they also had plans for education and would go as far as to cancel all student loans.
Well, years later seems like Biden/Harris bowed to corporate interests too hard and only delivered on this promise on a very lackluster manner.

Biden launched a major student loan relief program, but the Republican-controlled Supreme Court blocked this programs.

Again, I don't know where you are getting your news..........

Moreover, Biden/Harris completely failed to deliver on environmental promises. Biden completely broke all his anti-fracking and green energy promises, and in spite of that utility costs under their administration skyrocketed.

Certainly fracking is one area where Democrats have shifted. Fracking isn't fully "green", but is a cleaner form of energy that's more practical than others. But a broken promise to environmentalists? Sure.

I have no idea about what you mean about, "utility costs under their administration skyrocketed". Do you have numbers for this? And make sure you find data that takes into account the post-pandemic chaos of the market as well.

If anything, Biden and Harris are terrible leftists.

Correct. You can't believe what you watch on Fox News. Biden and Harris are centrist mainstream US politicians. The mainstream of the USA is not leftist (which is why Republicans desperately want to paint them that way).

[Hispo]

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Instead of talking about politics, they just choose to attack Trump, Vance, Project 2025, calling them names and their politics bad. Why not just talk about some better politics if you're so superior? propose some better solutions maybe? As things stand, we just get a taste that they pretend to be better by painting their opponent as the worse. Is this what would get Americans off their couch to vote? I doubt it.

What do you think about this?

It is part of the long standing process through which American politics has devolved to a new state of disarray, in this new state (I would dare to say it started when Trump got into politics) actual policies and proposals to improve the way of life of Americans started to lose steam as a way to win elections, demagogy became the new norm, that is how Trump ultimately ended up winning back in 2016. Democrats are not stupid and realize there are some new rules in the game of politics, so whether they like it or not, they have to dance at the tune of what actually catches the attention of the most of the population of the country. Sadly, an important percentage of the people there does not seem to care and watch an hour long rally with some guy talking about economics, policies and ways to improve the country, all of it devolved and it is something which stayed back in the mid 2000s and in the 2010s, before Trump take over politics.
Today it seems more likely to see members of the senate and the house of representatives to discuss actual politics then candidates to the presidency of the USA, but that is only my personal perception, though.

[alani123]

Correct. You can't believe what you watch on Fox News. Biden and Harris are centrist mainstream US politicians. The mainstream of the USA is not leftist (which is why Republicans desperately want to paint them that way).

Thanks for confirming what I'm saying in the OP then friend.
Harris is a "politician" that runs on a nonexistent political platform. Biden already was a stretch but got votes against Trump as the lesser of two evils. Kamala having absolutely no political direction, just as when she was a prosecutor where she just "gave it all away" to the right wing... Is a real worrying situation to have this as a choice for working class Americans. Don't forget how many Democratic candidates had to cling together to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination.

There's a very seizable portion of Americans that ARE actually left wing. And that's why Biden/Harris in this presidential election appear to lose in every poll that includes other candidates as well. People are so sick of their warmongering, outright infant murder in the middle east and no good neoliberal economic policies that third party suddenly seems like a valid choice for Americans.

[legiteum]

Correct. You can't believe what you watch on Fox News. Biden and Harris are centrist mainstream US politicians. The mainstream of the USA is not leftist (which is why Republicans desperately want to paint them that way).

Thanks for confirming what I'm saying in the OP then friend.
Harris is a "politician" that runs on a nonexistent political platform.

Again, it's only non-existent if you don't actually watch any sort of US media.

Americans will vote in November:

• If you want abortion to be criminalized in the USA, and for the US federal government to start tracking pregnant women, then vote for Trump.
• If you want abortion to stay legal, then vote for Harris.

There is nothing "apolitical" about this decision.

It doesn't sound like you have any reason to care since you live outside of the USA, so this is a very strange topic for you to start...

[alani123]

Correct. You can't believe what you watch on Fox News. Biden and Harris are centrist mainstream US politicians. The mainstream of the USA is not leftist (which is why Republicans desperately want to paint them that way).

Thanks for confirming what I'm saying in the OP then friend.
Harris is a "politician" that runs on a nonexistent political platform.

Americans will vote in November:

• If you want abortion to be criminalized in the USA, and for the US federal government to start tracking pregnant women, then vote for Trump.
• If you want abortion to stay legal, then vote for Harris.

There is nothing "apolitical" about this decision.

It doesn't sound like you have any reason to care since you live outside of the USA, so this is a very strange topic for you to start...

I respect the struggle but you've been completely unable to name how Kamala will protect abortion when Biden was unable to do so as president (still) with 2 years as a congress majority by his party.
What's the plan here? Pack the court? Make an executive order? (Which as you said will get stuck in the house)

Dunno friend, but even as a single issue to vote on, it doesn't seem like there's that much of a plan to bring abortion rights into reality.
Sadly for you though, there's more issues people will be looking into to determine their vote and Biden/Harris are lackluster at best on most.

[legiteum]

I respect the struggle but you've been completely unable to name how Kamala will protect abortion when Biden was unable to do so as president (still) with 2 years as a congress majority by his party.
What's the plan here? Pack the court? Make an executive order? (Which as you said will get stuck in the house)

Dunno friend, but even as a single issue to vote on, it doesn't seem like there's that much of a plan to bring abortion rights into reality.

Sadly for you though, there's more issues people will be looking into to determine their vote and Biden/Harris are lackluster at best on most.

Again, you have absolutely no clue about how the US political system works, yet you keep commenting here. You are embarrassing yourself . The Supreme Court does not need to change in order for Harris to defend against abortion laws.

Harris will defend a woman's right to choose in the same way Biden has, even with a Republican majority in the House. Trump will criminalized abortion in his first week in office. If you actually lived here in the USA, you would be alarmed by that.

Maybe if you comment about political issues in your own country, you will have better luck making a coherent argument...

[BADecker]

I respect the struggle but you've been completely unable to name how Kamala will protect abortion when Biden was unable to do so as president (still) with 2 years as a congress majority by his party.
What's the plan here? Pack the court? Make an executive order? (Which as you said will get stuck in the house)

Dunno friend, but even as a single issue to vote on, it doesn't seem like there's that much of a plan to bring abortion rights into reality.

Sadly for you though, there's more issues people will be looking into to determine their vote and Biden/Harris are lackluster at best on most.

Again, you have absolutely no clue about how the US political system works, yet you keep commenting here. You are embarrassing yourself . The Supreme Court does not need to change in order for Harris to defend against abortion laws.

Harris will defend a woman's right to choose in the same way Biden has, even with a Republican majority in the House. Trump will criminalized abortion in his first week in office. If you actually lived here in the USA, you would be alarmed by that.

Maybe if you comment about political issues in your own country, you will have better luck making a coherent argument...

Yeah. That's what's wrong with Harris. Defend the right to break trust contracts, and to perform murder executions by common people of 'babies'.

[paxmao]

Are Democrats stupid or something?

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

However they are ok believing that Trump won the last elections - a shady and dangerous allegation with no proof whatsoever.

[mpoletiek]

Again, it's only non-existent if you don't actually watch any sort of US media.

Americans will vote in November:

• If you want abortion to be criminalized in the USA, and for the US federal government to start tracking pregnant women, then vote for Trump.
• If you want abortion to stay legal, then vote for Harris.

There is nothing "apolitical" about this decision.

It doesn't sound like you have any reason to care since you live outside of the USA, so this is a very strange topic for you to start...

This is hilarious. A bright future depends on a lot more than abortion lol

[legiteum]

Again, it's only non-existent if you don't actually watch any sort of US media.

Americans will vote in November:

• If you want abortion to be criminalized in the USA, and for the US federal government to start tracking pregnant women, then vote for Trump.
• If you want abortion to stay legal, then vote for Harris.

There is nothing "apolitical" about this decision.

It doesn't sound like you have any reason to care since you live outside of the USA, so this is a very strange topic for you to start...

This is hilarious. A bright future depends on a lot more than abortion lol

Yes, if abortion is legal, like it has been in the US for the last half century, then there will be other things to worry about.

Most of the posters here are from outside of the US and don't care if Americans are made to suffer, as long as the price of Bitcoin goes up. I don't think Trump will make the price of Bitcoin go up--and he could very well make it crash--but being from another country means you don't care about the things that US voters care about.

[OgNasty]

I don’t know how true it is that she is apolitical. She was literally rated the most liberal voting senator there is from an independent group. Democrats have a way of finding their most far left people they can find and then thrusting them into the Presidency to inflict maximum damage on the country and spite the right. Nothing new here.

[coolcoinz]

Are Democrats stupid or something?

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

They were obviously lying because when the media screamed about her leading in the polls she wasn't even an official democratic candidate.

Now more credible sources say she's a point or two behind Trump, but that's also bad because this means so many people chose to vote for that communist.
Imagine that, you're in a country that fought communism on all continents. That went into a long cold war against a communist country and fought in the WW2 against socialist Germany.
Now you have all those people vote for a communist president, against all the values their parents and grandparents fought for.
It's crazy.