Club loyalty or winning bet?

[Fiatless]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

[Yatsan]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Well, that's subjective and your friend who will choose to support his club rather than making profit might be happier in such way and we cannot blame him not call him stupid for doing so; we are doing everything for our own reasons. If choosing the profit will be better on your end then that's fine and should also be with the other way around. This is a matter of being a fan and being a gambler; if you're more of a gambler then it's normal for you to favor what will give you profit than to be firm with your bias or fanatic. On my end, I would also choose profit but I still do understand those who won't.

We have our own reasons; some are gambling to make profit but there's a few who are here for their entertainment and that includes accepting loss for the sake of enjoying your bet. Imagine how great his feelings would be if his team would win. He'd for sure feel good of himself and that's priceless to some people which makes it valid, subjectively.

[Hatchy]

This issue has been discussed many times here on the forum. And it still stand as a very important topic of discussion. A lot of people take this fan club thing to a very high extent, which to me is very unnecessary. Yes you can be a fan of a very good club but then not all match will determine their win. So we shouldn't be stupidly blinded by the love for a club and want to loss to them. All these won't even matter to them. When we place bets, our goal is to be on the winning side and not just because we like the club but so we can make profits from their victory. So we shouldn't be so loyal to a club even when they are losing, it makes no sense

[Hispo]

Besides entertainment, betting on sport is also a venture to seek to pocket some money,  depending on whom one asks, that is something positive or negative, but keeping that part aside... I think it is more logical for us as bettor to give priority to profits, rather than just focusing on whether we personally like or not the team we are betting against.
Though, I would perfectly understand in the case someone would not dare to bet against their beloved national team and decided not to bet at all, instead.
Betting and gambling have both much to do with the way we control our feelings, and this specific escenario we are talking about is a good example of when we are supposed to have self-control and take a choice.

[rachael9385]

This issue has been discussed many times here on the forum. And it still stand as a very important topic of discussion. A lot of people take this fan club thing to a very high extent, which to me is very unnecessary. Yes you can be a fan of a very good club but then not all match will determine their win. So we shouldn't be stupidly blinded by the love for a club and want to loss to them. All these won't even matter to them. When we place bets, our goal is to be on the winning side and not just because we like the club but so we can make profits from their victory. So we shouldn't be so loyal to a club even when they are losing, it makes no sense

Actually it's true because some of these set of gamblers that don't care how much they are risking on the team they support is becoming weird. However it's important to know when to gamble or not because when one gamble because of the kind of love he/she has for the club it makes it worse because to decide when to bet on them or not. Because it's the club they supports they won't check their performance they will just bet because they believed that the club will perform well. But it's important for them to know that game is not like that, most on tournaments, every club wants to win and if you are underestimating the opposite club on any tournament it might not end well for them because the other teams also want to win and take the trophy. So am only trying to say that it's not too good to decide on a game based on the kind of love you have for them.

[Juse14]

Sports betting isn't just about loyalty. It's also about the money. For some people, winning a bet is everything; financially and personally. While loyalty means a lot, it's also logical to mind the financial aspect of your betting. And everyone is entitled to their own priorities and what drives them to place bets. But realizing that betting does involve real money is one step closer to responsible gambling. Loyalty to a favorite club can indeed drive us emotionally, but we also have to weigh our betting decisions financially. Placing those wagers with a clear mind and being wise will help keep that balance between emotional support and healthy financial management.

[darkangel11]

I try not to bet against my teams, especially the national team, but if I had to make the bet, knowing that the team is weak and will probably lose, I'd bet against them.
It's stupid to sacrifice money to later brag that you are a real fan who will bet even against all odds. Why would you lose money on purpose to prove how tough and dedicated you are?
The way I see it, if yo feel bad about betting against your team, don't do it. If you don't, do it, it's just a bet, your team will not care. The players get a lot of money for that match even if they lose. 

[Lanatsa]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Just let those people do bet according into their emotion and not really that wanting to take up some consideration on picking up on which one does have that higher chance of winning.There's no way that we could really be able to make them getting convinced that they should really be having that another approach on which it would really be that understandable that you would really be needing up to stick into those bets
on which it would really be that likely to win up the game. It would really be just that too impossible that you wont really be able to recognize specially into those highly favorite on which you would really be that assuming that they are likely to win but since you are really that a die hard fan with the other team then you would really be choosing it up instead.

Well, its not really that on someones business on where you would really be placing up your bets since its your money afterall but we do know that when it comes to odds of winning then highly favorite
would really be able to win up. Even on just basing with your own analysis and approach then high chances that you would really be losing up a certain bet. But somehow minding up about possible or potential
comebacks or upsets then this is where you would be also making up money on going bets against favorites.

[Antotena]

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

When to see fans breaking TV, valuable things from their home and other useful things, it's not because of their loyalty for the club that is making them angry, some of them are high risk gamblers that think they know too much about their clubs and when they bet money on their club and the club do the opposite of what they don't expect, they go loose and act like a crazy clown but I don't blame, too much risk is what makes them behave in that manner.

Loving club is one thing and winning money is another different thing entirely, you can't be supporting your club when the are playing nonsense and you know very well the right thing to do. If you think the are going to lose and you are sure about that, don't ever make mistake of thinking because you emotionally think they will win or believe in them, you decided to change mind, your money will burn and you will win nothing.

[stadus]

The main reason why sports bettors fail is due to loyalty to their team. We cannot be biased and just trust our team because it will not work in the long run. Bookmakers see that and believe that the majority of bettors bet with their heart and not with their mind, which is why they set up a line that could easily attract them. In fact, that line is just a trap, resulting in more losing experiences than winning. If we can't analyze with our mind while betting, we should just stop it and simply watch the game, enjoying rooting for our team without risking money.

[BABY SHOES]

Some fans are always fanatical about their favorite team and they are even willing to spend money for anything that is important for the favorite team to win the champions league title, but it is too ridiculous for me to lose $500 because for me it is big, I will bet on any winning team even against the current with the opposing team not the favorite team.

Is your friend a Real Madrid or Manchester City fan? If he bets on his favorite team winning the championship is still very possible because these two teams are still likely to win the title.

[boyptc]

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Me too, I'd choose to win than to see the club or team that I really like win. If it is about our bets, we have to secure ourselves first.

We don't need to be a diehard fans for us to be called a fan. The club will still earn even if they lose to a game. But us, we'd lose money when they lose and we don't have salary after that.

Loyalty is within the hearts but when money is talking and you're betting with or against them, yourself and your bet is what you should prioritize.

[Davidvictorson]

Everyone is free to do what makes them happy. As for the die had fun if he feels that betting against his club would make him on happy day he shouldn't bet and he shouldn't discourage the next person from betting because loyalty differs from one person to another. If there are no financial rewards attached to be a fan of a football club as we can see, then I see no reason why I shouldn't bet against them when the chance is of me winning money is high. I may be passionate about a club but I draw the line when money is involved. Even some employees of the club with bet against them.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League.

My dear, these clubs are making their money real good and wouldn't gamble with any opportunity to make more money for themselves and the team members as a whole are living large. I would never gamble any opportunity to make my own money because of assumed loyalty. I would regret it for a long time if I ever tried that bullshit. Yes, that guy that would gladly loose the bet is not Loyal but very stupid 

The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

The only loyalty I show my favorite club is buying their most recent jerseys and putting it on to viewing centers, watching their every match and following up every detail about the club and its activities. When it has come to giving me losses in my bets, it's not loyalty anymore.

[South Park]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

To me this is an easy question, when gambling you should have only one purpose and that is to win your bet, if you think you have better chances picking a different team than the one you root for or you even bet against them, I do not see anything wrong with that and that does not make you less of a fan on my eyes, however it is clear that for those that plan to support their favorite team no matter what, such an attitude may not sit well with them, but let them think whatever they want, as you will be the one with more money on your pocket at the end.

[_act_]

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

I am not even a fan of any club because I saw no reason of being a fan of any club. If I am a fan of a club and someone  asked me that I should take my club to win but that I would lose $500, or the club that I am supporting or that I am fan of should lose and I would win $500. I will choose to win $500. I can not afford to lose because of the club to win as the club can not afford to lose for me to win. The club does not care about me and I do not care if it comes to money.

[Spaceman1000$]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Ordinarily I cannot question people for the choices they make, I try as much as possible to respect it, even though I see that, it doesn't make much sense. As for me, haven been a gambler all this years, I'm only loyal to my gamble as long as it pays me, that includes betting against my favourite team to lose, especially in a situation where I know that they don't stand a chance to win, this is gambling and money is involved, emotions has little role to play.

A passionate football fan, might find it difficult to wrestle through the murky waters of gambling as he/she will be too emotional to take strong and decisive decisions when predicting because he/she will find it difficult to place a bet against the team his supporting, forgetting that gambling goes beyond you being fan.

[wheelz1200]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

I just don't bet against or on the teams that I like most of the time (except for the knicks) but either way I don't bet against them.  Just can't do it.  I bet for entertainment and I watch my sports team for entertainment.  One would cancel out the other no matter the price so I figure what's the point.  I know people that do and just see them so conflicted when I watch the game with them lol.

[Cantsay]

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

I agree with the second friend who pointed out that the first one was being stupid for wanting to lose a bet that’s up to $500 just because he’s a fan of the team playing.

There are games which after analyzing I discovered that there’s a slight chance of my prediction being correct because of the strength of both teams, I usually just favour whichever team has a player that I like and the amount I use for such bets are usually little amount so that I won’t regret going for my favorite player.

Between Portugal and Spain I did the same thing but used a tiny amount from my bankroll, it became more like a fun game for me trying to see if my favorite player (Ronaldo) would actually be able to win and make me keep my bankroll untouched or make me lose the amount I bet - if it was a bigger amount I definitely would have gone for the best team even if my team or favorite player was involved.

[bitbollo]

this question has been asked and discussed many many times. Of course I completely don't care of my "favorite team" if they can win or achieve a loss since I want make money with my bet. Of course Best of option would be have both event (winning bet ... by favorite team) but this is not always possible and gamblers must be aware of that...