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July 30, 2024, 01:07:43 AM
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A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.
He really is stupid for having such thoughts. Money matters in gambling. Even if I'm a fan of that team, I'd rather bet on the other side if I see that my favorite team clearly doesn't stand a chance. If I ever bet on my favorite team, it's not because they are my favorite, it's because I want the high odds. One shouldn't do sports betting if they're just going to base their pick on favoritism.
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July 30, 2024, 02:47:50 AM
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I'm also on the same side as you OP, winnings over supporting the team because you don't easily turn down some free money. It's always better to go for the winning bet unless the team i'm supporting is the best in the league so I don't have to bet against them. Also, it doesn't pay to be a diehard fan and that other friend sounds unreasonable when his friend is just taking advantage of the situation to earn some money.

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July 30, 2024, 04:37:50 AM
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When it comes to sports betting we have to give up our emotions completely because if we hold on to our emotions we will lose our money. We may have our favorite club but if a strong opponent plays against our favorite club then we have to leave our club and bet in favor of that strong team as it will be more likely to win. If the club loses, I may feel bad for a while, but later on, if the club wins again, we will rejoice. We understand that it would be foolish for us to bet in favor of our club knowing that a strong team will be playing against us. It may be our favorite club but we must understand that the money that will be lost from our pocket for gambling but the club will not give us. If it is too difficult for us to bet against our favorite club then at least we should refrain from betting on that match so that at least one match bet money is protected.

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July 30, 2024, 04:57:29 AM
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Haha, I also experienced the same thing where having team that really like, but on the other hand are also gambler who likes sports betting, of course this is something that might be considered disloyal to the team are for favorite.
But basically, being fan of football team and also being gambler, have to be able to really have good attitude, we have to be able to consider everything more accurately so that we don't get disappointed and on the other hand don't lose the bet.
Moreover, our favorite team will not play every day and this is why there is always another team that we choose in the betting options in every match when our favorite team does not play.

In cases like this when someone says bad things about what I do then it is not something that needs to be thought about, the most important thing is that we really make one team the favorite to win the title and can still take advantage of all the opportunities in betting.
I sure that if they are gambler who really likes sports betting then they will also be sure to do the same thing by taking advantage of all the matches to be able to take opportunities and profits.

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July 30, 2024, 06:14:40 AM
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I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?
My club will earn money from every game, and from every stage in a competition that they get to. For the UCL finals, the team that finishes second will still earn a considerable amount of money finishing second, so they are not completely loosing. It is somehow a win win. Also, since my club has won the UCL before, and not just once, it doesn't matter if they loose this time. A person who supports a club that has never won the champions league and may never win it if they miss their chance after getting to that stage in the competition may choose the club to win and them loose the bet.

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July 30, 2024, 06:39:08 AM
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Club loyalty is no bad a position to take for any gambler but if we are to analyze things this way where when the club loses a match the players are still paid their wages despite the loss of the game meanwhile for the gambler you lose your bet you get nothing because it's a lost bet. And it's for this reason, I'll will choose winning my bet over loyalty for club, maybe my loyalty to my club should be firm in times of banter between rival club fans but not deliberately betting on them when it's obvious in a game they are gonna lose especially when they are having a bad season.
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July 30, 2024, 06:43:32 AM
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I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?
if you're a regular visitor to betting shops you will observe that this is a trend that happens when clubs like Manchester United are playing against Manchester City or Chelsea is playing against arsenal. Most Chelsea fans would choose to stake in favour of thier club not because by the teams standard they can win arsenal but just to pump up thier ego that they really believe in the said club. For me, that's what being a sports man entails, you don't only support your club when it's obvious they can win certain matches, you support them at times when they are playing against a tougher opponent and even though they might not directly witness the effect of your support, thier is this joy you feel even though they loose the match that you've still supported them.

We've had countless experiences iny area when we're watching match and arguments will spring up and they will ask you question like, Did you even play that your club will win? its at that point they will know if you're a true supporter of your club. People sometimes just play such bet just to boast thier  ego but in the long run it's always best to moderate it. If you're playing a single game in a slip, you can choose to look at club loyalty but when you've got multiple games on your slip, it's best you really more on your analysis and not just your emotions.

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July 30, 2024, 06:56:19 AM
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I kinda like the winning bets,  thus would not be biased to any loyalty when the name of the game is the potential  extra potential money in my pockets. Every once in a while my loyalty resulted in empty pockets, thus  I have found that it is hard to be loyal to anything beyond them, though I always gamble, fate will judge me.

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July 30, 2024, 07:03:17 AM
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From this situation i just remember about Drake and we have been discuss about this because at that time his country Canada was fight against Argentina at Copa America and we all know from whole conditions Argentina is much better than Canada but he still insist to bets for Canada although he know the possibilities to lost his money is quite high and it just happend that Canada lost and Drake also lost huge of money and some people considers he is risky taker but some of people too considers this is nationalism because although he know Canada will lost but he didn't betting against his country

Everybody know when people starting to do sport betting because they want earn money so sometimes we should be ruled out about being fanatic fans because if there is any chances to earn money from our favourite teams then as a gamblers we should be bets against our favourite teams but for me personally i am football fans and i do have my favourite team and i am not a fanatic fans but so far i never bets against my favourite team because if i win from them i don't feel comfortable

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July 30, 2024, 07:29:46 AM
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I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?
And that's the wise thing to do.

I am also loyal to one of the teams in a different league and there are times my emotions will get the better of me because of being a hardcore fan of that certain team. But, I learned my lesson after losing a lot of money on that series. We cannot stick to one even though it is obvious that they are going to lose the game. The odds are already in favor of the opposing team which means we have to think straight about our next decision. If a handicap is available, take it, sometimes it does help to win a bet, that way you are still supporting your team while having a chance to also win the bet.

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July 30, 2024, 07:46:47 AM
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Betting on favorite club to win is not the only option to support. If it is obvious that favorite team or athlete will lose, dont bet, but instead, buy a tshirt with name on it and cheer during the game for example. Actually, I dont understand how loyalty and betting even work together. Clubs or athletes dont organize their own betting casinos. But if someone still feel somehow unfair after betting on opponent and winning, then this person can donate amount won to favorite club or athlete.

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July 30, 2024, 07:47:01 AM
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Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?


No matter what we do it's important to focus on getting payed, I would go with winning the bet instead of following loyalty to my favorite club, at the end of the day if you stake a high amount of money on your favorite club knowing fukly well that their opponent is might give them a tough time only puts you in loss, these players are getting paid whether they win or lose a game, you can't always get moved by loyalty, to me I consider it as being irrational, it's almost like your deliberately throwing your money away

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July 30, 2024, 08:02:58 AM
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Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?
I love and support my club so much and I will argue with anyone who talks down on my club. I will walk under the rain just to go and watch my favorite club play every weekend and week days. But when it comes to placing a bet against them that will make me cash out I will go with the bet and win my money. The club is doing their business and at same time they are also entertaining their fans, so I will also do my business and support them as well. A dime will never enter my pocket if the club wins the Champions league, but I will still use my money to buy the new kits for the new season, so I have to go with the $500 because if the club don't win the Champions league, they made their own money as well.

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July 30, 2024, 08:45:00 AM
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2 different perspective, the first person can be said as non real bettor because he does not care of losing his money as long as his favorite club win the title.
On the other side, the 2nd person can be said as real bettor because the main purpose is exactly to make money from betting.
Real bettor although he is also a fan of a club, will not bet on his favorite club if he thinks that the chance to win is so low.
Logically why we would throw some money away just to bet on our favorite club when we are sure that our favorite club will not win.
This is why when it comes to favorite club, we should not use our emotion only just to prove that we are real fans by betting on them.

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July 30, 2024, 09:11:12 AM
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A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.
The essence of gambling is to hit a win but if one choose to be loyal to his/her club then good for the person. But in gambling it is good when people take away sentiments and understand that gambling is just a game and it doesn't mean for one to too stick to the club he belongs to. When gambling we bet by supporting the team that is more superior in strength to win the weaker club. We all know the strength of our respective club, and if their is a stronger club playing against your own club which you are aware of it, then why not play the game and win some cash. You can still gamble and still be loyal to the club you belong to.

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July 30, 2024, 09:45:16 AM
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This issue has been discussed many times here on the forum. And it still stand as a very important topic of discussion. A lot of people take this fan club thing to a very high extent, which to me is very unnecessary. Yes you can be a fan of a very good club but then not all match will determine their win. So we shouldn't be stupidly blinded by the love for a club and want to loss to them. All these won't even matter to them. When we place bets, our goal is to be on the winning side and not just because we like the club but so we can make profits from their victory. So we shouldn't be so loyal to a club even when they are losing, it makes no sense
Similar topics have been discussed in other threads but the question still remains relevant because it's a hot topic of debate in different gatherings. My take on it is that betting the other team that is playing with the team that you support doesn't mean that you don't support your team anymore or you're not a loyal fan. If some of the key players in the team that you support are not going to play maybe due to injury and you think that the other team has higher chances of winning, I think that it'll make financial sense to bet on the other team to win.

I know that we have die-hard fans that will go ahead to bet on the team that they support to win in a match, even when every probability is indicating that the other team will win. It's their money and they're entitled to do what they want with it, I'll just hope that such fans will bet with the amount that they can afford to loose.

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July 30, 2024, 12:54:35 PM
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I choose winning bet because I don't have favorite team. With choosing any team that have a chance to win makes me can across the border to choose any team without feels bad if I can't support my team. That's a gambling game for me and nothing to lose for me if I do that because I am not a fan for any club. I don't want to lose $500 for my favorite team that doesn't have a chance to wins in the match because that will makes me crazy as that money is too big for me. Nothing wrong with that but if you are a fan of a club, that will makes you feels not right if you choose the opponent club or others.

People wants their favorite club win so they will choose their team and make them win the bet. But they should realizes their team can not always win the match especially if they meet a strong opponent. Although they still have a chance to change the situation, that will not easy because their opponent too strong for them.

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July 30, 2024, 12:54:49 PM
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Betting on favorite club to win is not the only option to support. If it is obvious that favorite team or athlete will lose, dont bet, but instead, buy a tshirt with name on it and cheer during the game for example. Actually, I dont understand how loyalty and betting even work together. Clubs or athletes dont organize their own betting casinos.
This is just it. The club do not have its own betting site. So why should a fan be so foolish of knowing the club he is supporting would lose and still bet on the club. If the person bet against the club and the club lose, not that the club will lose more because the person do not bet on them.

But if someone still feel somehow unfair after betting on opponent and winning, then this person can donate amount won to favorite club or athlete.
It does not make sense and I see it as foolishness because if the club win and the person lose, the club will not give the money lost back to the loser.

I know that we have die-hard fans that will go ahead to bet on the team that they support to win in a match, even when every probability is indicating that the other team will win. It's their money and they're entitled to do what they want with it, I'll just hope that such fans will bet with the amount that they can afford to loose.
That is true. If the bettors can afford to lose the money, he has nothing to worry about. But I can not do that. It would be like I saw the right thing but just decide to go the wrong way.

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July 30, 2024, 01:36:09 PM
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I kinda like the winning bets,  thus would not be biased to any loyalty when the name of the game is the potential  extra potential money in my pockets. Every once in a while my loyalty resulted in empty pockets, thus  I have found that it is hard to be loyal to anything beyond them, though I always gamble, fate will judge me.
Sometimes there are personal reasons someone would wants their team to win but to me when it's obvious that they may likely not win then I  may either not place a bet at all or will have placed on the opposing team.

Though many have use betting against their team as a consolation of at least gaining more while their team disappointingly lose and I prefer this because I rather not take both Loss.

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July 30, 2024, 01:46:30 PM
Last edit: July 30, 2024, 05:01:46 PM by coin-investor
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We must accept the fact that our favorite team can be superior on some teams and inferior on other teams. Even to the point if the other team has injured players, it will still beat your team.

So, if you have a chance to make a profit, then go for it; it's not that you are betraying your team. It's an opportunity for you to make money; as a gambler, that's an opportunity loss for making a profit if you're not going for it.

It's different if you're a gambler and an avid fan. If you are not a gambler, then don't bet and just support and cheer your team.
 

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