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April 07, 2014, 02:22:21 PM
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Pump and Dump!  Yay!

Looks like it will be a race to the dumpfest.  Everyone is already waiting for Poloniex so they can dump.



I don't see any buy support for the amount of coins that are out.  The IPO holders should be able to make a profit as long as the price doesn't completely tank and buyers show up.
 
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***  0.21021021 BTC  256015.247 LOVE
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April 07, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
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No wallet mac? => shitcoin

No wallet mac means that the coin was created with a coingenerator => shitcoin

It was not created with a coingen.The dev is "loljosh". You can confirm this on PM with him here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249302

Mac wallet will be up very soon.
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April 07, 2014, 02:25:21 PM
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Be careful about sumpool they have lot of complaints about not paying out your coins and not replying to custom emails.Recently one of the coin releases lots of people lost their coins and they banned sunpool

We are not related to sumpool in anyway. Miners can chose their preferred pool.
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April 07, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
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any word time-wise when cryptsy will get it listed today?

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April 07, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
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LOVEcoinproject is a scammer who do not pay my bounty work!
LOVEcoinproject sent me the PM:
this is NOT a scam. there is an escrow for the IPO. if you invest 0.1 btc i can send you .4 btc IPO for the promotion!
let me know!
I agree this offer and sent 0.1btc to the ipo, do the work later,see this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557061.new#new
promotion:http://img1.ph.126.net/DHrGEI7hSP2tnChjWsO0Xg==/3020226500205568291.jpg
http://img2.ph.126.net/mMGeDphVS1X9DxXKHlc5QA==/6599300675749644179.jpg
http://img1.ph.126.net/Oa0X_BK_wls5uN8xhJy-Kg==/1408500783560812420.jpg
I update the ann thread twice,and make lots of promotion for lovecoin,he do not want pay the extra ipo share.

Let you know he is a scammer!


Posting in red and a huge size doesn't make you honest! Anyone can do that.

You have been paid for the bounty and YOU WILL NOT BE PAID ANYTHING EXTRA because you did not do what was asked for. The thread was not updated even once even hours after wallets were released.

Also, we will soon be editing this post and give out names of bounty holders with their consent so that everyone can PM them and confirm if they received their bounties.
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April 07, 2014, 02:29:51 PM
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just look at the premine

1M with a block reward of 142, aka scam

exact same shit with aliencoin

That has not changed. It was the same always. The premine is just 0.7%; which is much lower than most coins here. Sorry you feel 0.70% premine = scam. Its not!
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April 07, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
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How do you send lovecoin to the investors after ipo closed.

It looks like you just tell the investors how to send btc\ppc\doge\ltc to your project. You forgot or i missed it.
 
where is the LOVECOIN client?

After the IPO is closed, the total investment will be declared in the OP. And accordingly it will be declared how many LOVE does each investor get.

When the coin launches the next day and we release the client ,investors PM us with their addresses and we send the LOVE.

If there is any other question, feel free to post here Smiley

Can we please see the details of the IPO distribution and when will the block explorer be available???
No reply yet. I'm starting to think we're going to see the devs dump 3 1/2 million coins pretty soon. No block explorer to check movements of the IPO or Premine!!!!! Tell me I'm wrong....

Please check

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=550452.msg6110576#msg6110576
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=550452.msg6110638#msg6110638

We do not have 3.5 million Smiley
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April 07, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
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How do you send lovecoin to the investors after ipo closed.

It looks like you just tell the investors how to send btc\ppc\doge\ltc to your project. You forgot or i missed it.
 
where is the LOVECOIN client?

After the IPO is closed, the total investment will be declared in the OP. And accordingly it will be declared how many LOVE does each investor get.

When the coin launches the next day and we release the client ,investors PM us with their addresses and we send the LOVE.

If there is any other question, feel free to post here Smiley

Can we please see the details of the IPO distribution and when will the block explorer be available???
No reply yet. I'm starting to think we're going to see the devs dump 3 1/2 million coins pretty soon. No block explorer to check movements of the IPO or Premine!!!!! Tell me I'm wrong....

Personnaly i received my ipo less then one hour after launch

Thanks for the vouch. Block Explorer should be up soon.

Again if anyone can make a block explorer. PLEASE CONTACT US.
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April 07, 2014, 02:34:23 PM
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Smiley The IPO investment is in Escrow's hand.

I have done my Part, Coins have been distributed to those who sent funds in escrow address.

zxm7001 0.1 BTC 121790.2321 LOVE
***  0.21021021 BTC  256015.247 LOVE
BoogieWater 0.25 BTC  304475.5803 LOVE     
Prominence  3 LTC 97432.18571 LOVE



Yes escrow has done his part. Please stop blaming him.
Also just 3 investors are left to receive their investment and we have already PMed them to send their address.
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April 07, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
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Smiley The IPO investment is in Escrow's hand.

I have done my Part, Coins have been distributed to those who sent funds in escrow address.

zxm7001 0.1 BTC 121790.2321 LOVE
***  0.21021021 BTC  256015.247 LOVE
BoogieWater 0.25 BTC  304475.5803 LOVE     
Prominence  3 LTC 97432.18571 LOVE

YES AND I INVESTED 0.1btc OUTSIDE ESCROW AND RECIEVED JUST 10k COINS. STILL WAITING A RESPONSE FROM DEVs AS TO WHY THE MATH SO BAD!!

Sorry about that but we have not received a PM, please send it again.
Every investor has got their IPO funds till now without any issues. If their is any mistake, we will correct it. Don't worry. PM us.
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April 07, 2014, 02:37:19 PM
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WE HOPE WE HAVE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS. If we missed any please repost.
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I am not going to compare NXT with LOVE, but in one aspect they face a similiar challenge:

IPO as a distribution mechanism.

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Original IPO (1 NXT = 2 Satoshi)  
First week (1 NXT = 100 Satoshi)
Second week (1 NXT = 400-2000 Satoshi)
...
distribution Nxt to 73 big stakeholders
(from the blog)

NXT price now:   5950 Satoshi


I don't know how they did it, but they succeeded as as group
of 73 IPO shareholders to not undercut each other, but allow
for a RISING price. By patience, slow, very slow selling, I guess.

Do not sell more than the market can absorb per time.

But how did they coordinate as a group?

Devs & escrow, please consider to send  this and this to all IPO holders!
( Weak hands dangerous for every coin, but weak hands are
sometimes simply not-knowing hands ... and can be educated )


If the whole group ( IPOs + miners + later investors ) understands this, a coin has a chance to thrive.

I find this price creation challenge quite interesting.  
A social experiment in group intelligence.

 Cool


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mining price

give us a barometer what the price range should be
so peeps don't go dump low..Let us all know what the going range is..

qiwoman, here comes your learning. Only multiplication and division, really easy.

Stay with me, slowly reading this. Don't panic.
At the bottom is a really simple three numbers formula.



But let me explain first:


Who can set a the price properly?  Miners! Not IPO investors!

Miners pay thousands of euros for their hardware, and
then up to 200 euros per month per 1000 Watt electricity
(depending on how environmentally clever the country is).  
Miners are the best indicator what is a price for a coin,
because miners RUN AWAY IF THE PRICE IS TOO LOW !!!
And a PoW coin without miners ... is nothing. Not secure.


It's very good that you as an IPO shareholder ask for advise!
If the miners run away from LOVE, that's bad for everyone.

And in a quick dump, not even one IPO holder can earn a lot of money,
so it's better for everyone, if ALL IPO shareholders become conscious,
especially in this IPO. If the miners play out the correct price, everyone can be happy.

(escrow.ms and LOVEcoinproject, why not mail this to all IPO holders?! Weak hands are sometimes simply not-knowing hands ... )



What do miners do? ... their machines participate in
a "block hashing" lottery (but you'll learn that later)

-  interesting for now is only:     What is the miner's reward ? ? ?
Now there is an easy mathematical way to predict
the average outcome of the block hashing lottery:


Imagine difficulty = 11.0   (Wallet ... Help ... Debug ... Console - type: getmininginfo and press enter)
Imagine hashrate = 1.5 Megahash/s (2 - 5 graphics cards or ASICs).
Imagine a price = 6,000 Satoshi per LOVE
Look up the block reward = 143 LOVE per block (wow, cool - that's 1 LOVE per second on average :-) )

The statistics for scrypt hashing (and for other algos) is this

BTC_by_LOVE_per_Day
= price * blockreward * hashrate * 24*60*60 * 2^-32 / difficulty

= price * blockreward * hashrate / 49710.26963  / difficulty
= price * blockreward * hashrate_in_megahashps * 20.12 / difficulty
= 0.00006000 * 143 * 1.5 * 20.12 /  11.0
= 0.0235 BTC per day, earned by mining LOVEcoins. Minus electricity minus hardware costs minus labor costs.

2.35 million Satoshi would be a nice return of one machine actually (it's worth renting a rig at betarigs then). If the price on the market reaches and sustains these 6000 Satoshi per coin (0.00006000 BTC), lots of miners will be attracted, and help to make the transactions of this currency secure.  They will direct their machines to LOVEcoin pools, and help with their expensive hardware to mine more LOVEcoin. But with more miners the block generation will become faster than every 143 seconds - and so the difficulty will have to rise, let's say to 22.0 because there are twice as many miners now. Less coins are earned per MegahashPerSecond hardware, so the miner doubles his hardware, and now points two of his machines ( 2 * 1.5 = 3.0 ) at the LOVEpool

0.0235 BTC_per_day = 0.00006000 * 143 * 3.0 * 20.12 /  22.0

His coins per day are the same, but he had to double the hardware trouble (and electricity), because the difficulty is twice as high now. A rising coin is a good coin ! With rising difficulty often the price is rising, too - because miners are asking for more money then, or even simple HODL them, for a bright future.


Now disaster ... Imagine the price falls to 2525 Satoshi at difficulty 11.0

0.00991 BTC_per_day = 0.00002525 * 143 * 1.5 * 20.12 /  11.0

the same small miner with his one machine now earns less than one million Satoshis per day with his 1.5 MH/s. That's about what multipools are offering right now, and it pays the electricity only in dirty countries with too low energy prices.  Multipools are less work and more reliable than to stay with LOVEcoin - so miners would leave. RUN FOR THE EXIT! Falling hashrate, falling difficulty. In the end falling price, because miners see that they cannot believe in the future of this coin, and instead of HODLING, they dump their coins.  A falling coin is no good coin!


I know I have to come to an end *g*


Let's take something the middle, 0.015 BTC_per_day with our 1.5 megahashps machine,
that is exactly 1 BTC per day per 100 megahashps factory
(such a factory costs as much as a small family house, and uses ~10 family houses of electricity?)

... or exactly 1 mio Satoshi per day per small 1.0 megahashps not too hot bedroom miner.

-->

0.015 = 0.00003823  * 143 * 1.5 * 20.12 /  11.0

or turn the equation around now:

0.015 / 1.5 / 143 / 20.12 * 11.0  = 0.00003823 BTC coinprice
   1/100     / 20.12 / 143 * 11.0  = 0.00003823 BTC coinprice
  1/2012  / 143 * 11.0               = 0.00003823 BTC coinprice
  11.0 / 143  /  2012               = 0.00003823 BTC coinprice


So here is your mining costs rule of thumb calculation:

difficulty / block_reward / 2012 = mining_minimum_price_in_BTC_per_coin

as an example right now (block 224, diff 12.88),
the price should stay well above:
12.88 / 143 / 2012  = 0.00004477 BTC per LOVEcoin



and now we all know how to calculate this for any coin.

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April 07, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
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WE HOPE WE HAVE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS. If we missed any please repost.

i think yes! haters will hate.....dont worry, every coin has a few such ppl!
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April 07, 2014, 02:58:33 PM
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WE HOPE WE HAVE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS. If we missed any please repost.

i think yes! haters will hate.....dont worry, every coin has a few such ppl!

Thanks for the support. Also, you will see their was no investor complaining Wink
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April 07, 2014, 03:03:56 PM
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net hash climbing back up after the explanation........http://love.pool.mn/index.php
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April 07, 2014, 03:09:38 PM
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Got my IPO funds and will hold for a few months. Not sure why people think this is a scam.
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April 07, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
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I also got my IPO and bounties and am very grateful. When DEV has time please send to all the IPO Investors a small guideline on the prices so we don't rush to undersell and undervalue the coin.. Let's coordinate as a group. Smiley
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April 07, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
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Smiley The IPO investment is in Escrow's hand.

I have done my Part, Coins have been distributed to those who sent funds in escrow address.

zxm7001 0.1 BTC 121790.2321 LOVE
***  0.21021021 BTC  256015.247 LOVE
BoogieWater 0.25 BTC  304475.5803 LOVE     
Prominence  3 LTC 97432.18571 LOVE

YES AND I INVESTED 0.1btc OUTSIDE ESCROW AND RECIEVED JUST 10k COINS. STILL WAITING A RESPONSE FROM DEVs AS TO WHY THE MATH SO BAD!!
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Panic over!! Error corrected. Thanks LOVEcoinproject, did have me worried for a bit then!! Got all the Love I expected now.

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April 07, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
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NEW SITE IS UP: lovecoins.co

How do you think it is?
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April 07, 2014, 03:58:29 PM
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MAC wallet is up: https://mega.co.nz/#!45Vx0ZgR!tm-SCWZUwePpluEm33cUHC6cbxv81bBwbGO8WeEt9h4
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