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August 09, 2024, 06:29:03 PM
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To be fair dollar DID fall, it didn't collapse but it is not even half of what it used to worth, the only trouble is that all other nations followed and did the same thing or even worse, so the fall of dollar did not get any interest. If other nations stayed a bit stronger when USD was falling, then this would have been a bigger issue and a news, but because it wasn't, the issue did not get any worse at all.

I believe that we are going to face a lot of people with a lot of questions on why the yare not buying the same things for same money, that is due to inflation and everyone is complaining about that inflation over at USA, so they should realize that USD already collapsed like crazy and it is not worth anything anymore.

The only thing that is keeping the dollar strong right now is the fact that no other currency did alright during this period, all of them crashed and every government made big mistakes as well. So that is why we are left with a "strong" looking USD for the time being.

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August 09, 2024, 08:03:17 PM
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The only thing that is keeping the dollar strong right now is the fact that no other currency did alright during this period, all of them crashed and every government made big mistakes as well.

There is the Euro.
Still not much love lost there.

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August 09, 2024, 10:59:00 PM
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To be fair dollar DID fall, it didn't collapse but it is not even half of what it used to worth, the only trouble is that all other nations followed and did the same thing or even worse, so the fall of dollar did not get any interest. If other nations stayed a bit stronger when USD was falling, then this would have been a bigger issue and a news, but because it wasn't, the issue did not get any worse at all.

I believe that we are going to face a lot of people with a lot of questions on why the yare not buying the same things for same money, that is due to inflation and everyone is complaining about that inflation over at USA, so they should realize that USD already collapsed like crazy and it is not worth anything anymore.

The only thing that is keeping the dollar strong right now is the fact that no other currency did alright during this period, all of them crashed and every government made big mistakes as well. So that is why we are left with a "strong" looking USD for the time being.
You have a good point. If we analyze the current status of dollar carefully, we will find out that it's not as valuable as it had before, not actually in terms of price, but more on the worth and demand that people are giving to dollar. A lot would say that it's deteriorating already and it's slowly replaced by digital currency which gains high demand these days.

However, seeing bitcoin to completely collapse in the market might not be happening soon but may probably take some time. But if US will find some alternative to replace dollar, I'm sure they will let go of dollar and raise their alternative currency in exchange of dollar.

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August 10, 2024, 12:43:06 AM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.
Most of these videos about the fall of the dollar are conspiracy theories that have little merit. Over the years the dollar has kept losing its value but it is still the most popular currency in the world. The majority of international trade transactions are done using the dollar. These predictions about the fall of the dollar have been around for a long time, and to date, the dollar has not been replaced by another currency in the global market.

The speculation that BRICS nations will come up with their currency contributed to the prediction of the imminent fall of the dollar, but we have not yet seen the currency. The US has the biggest economy, and it also has a stable political system, so the dollar will continue to be the primary reserve currency until a stronger currency emerges.
The rumors are not but fallacies. It is important we approach such things we a clear eye so that we won't get misguided. This is not the first time the dollar has depreciated yet the reserve currency still remains unchallenged compared to other currencies. Without that we should understand that there are reasons why there has been an instability in the value of dollar, and they are caused by geopolitical factors, and advancements in technologies. After its up and down the dollar at the end still finds a way to maintain a balance.

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August 10, 2024, 01:38:30 PM
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The rumors are not but fallacies. It is important we approach such things we a clear eye so that we won't get misguided. T

Most rumors are started by people holding a grudge against the US.
Greencard, blocked accounts, confiscated funds, you just name one.
These rumors are not from people having a reputation to lose if proven wrong.

That is the part where social media sets in.
You watch a YouTube speaker and dig into him often you find the reason why he made the video.  
People without websites you should discard immediately. Mass websites as some people do better work than others you find their domains a re protected and such.

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August 11, 2024, 10:43:56 PM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.
The dollar has been collapsing as far as I remember and its demise has been foretold for decades, and while it is true that too much of it has been printed recently and the US government has too much debt, many other countries are in the same situation or even in a worse one, so the collapse of the US dollar seems to still be very far away, so if I were you I would concentrate on other things as I do not expect the dollar to collapse during the next decade.
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August 11, 2024, 11:29:56 PM
Last edit: August 12, 2024, 02:38:44 PM by STT
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There is the Euro.
Still not much love lost there.
Euro is also due to crash.  Reason being they followed the prompt to copy the actions of the Federal reserve and take on large amounts of QE style debt.  Little of this makes sense or is especially legal when you consider some of the poorest people are paying to bail out some of the richest people who own the failing companies issuing this debt.

If there is a negative outcome for the Yen with its 30 year old QE programs, if FED failed USA with its endless QE then its also true Euro will be cursed with this debt till it fails.   What began with one of the strongest banks in the world, west Germany for years has issued premium debt due to good governance has now switched to bail outs for Greece and corruption across Europe, the worst debt was bought to back Euro.

This all was done on purpose, Euro would have risen strongly vs dollar long ago otherwise.   Its part of what makes the working wage so weak now and 2 people can barely pay the household bills in many families its a struggle even while full time employed.

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August 12, 2024, 03:05:21 PM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.
The dollar has been collapsing as far as I remember and its demise has been foretold for decades, and while it is true that too much of it has been printed recently and the US government has too much debt, many other countries are in the same situation or even in a worse one, so the collapse of the US dollar seems to still be very far away, so if I were you I would concentrate on other things as I do not expect the dollar to collapse during the next decade.

People underestimate the people working from within the United States government and the Federal Reserve, as they were dumb people who cannot do anything right and each action they take only pushes the USD closer to its demise, though that is not completely what is going on.
The federal reserve know and it is aware there are some for of the United States seeking to undermine the perceived value of their correctly around the world and perhaps even replaced by some BRICS issued Fiat of some sort. The Fed is not stupid enough to allow all of it happen. While people are already talking on the future downfall of the USA dollar as a reserve currency around the world, the USA is secretly planing the counter offensive so they won't lose the hegemony of the Dollar.

My country used to be one of the most anti-USD in the hemisphere and ironically (after going through some economical crisis) the government itself and the people had not had other option but to adopt the USD for the daily life expenses and refuge for local inflation.

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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.
While there's enough stuff to go around to suppose that the dollar is collapsing, I think it's a little too early to say that it is collapsing and we are due for a recession, it's hanging by a thread don't get me wrong, but it's still pretty much hanging in there.

I don't think you'll like it when the dollar does collapse. With the way things are looking shit's gonna go down the sewer if the dollar does collapse, a lot of countries are reliant upon the international bank, which is actively funded in dollars, if that shit devalues, problems will ensue, not to mention efforts that countries opposing the US might make to try and annex US territories cause what can they do now when their own market's crashing?

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Quite a lot of people believe that a state is like a small timer business.
A state is a layered creation which has quite some time to grow.
Especially in the states, where the government has developed a symbiotic relationship with the economy.

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While I do agree that nothing will last forever, just because China is big, doesn't make them a formidable competition, because they are usually not good at it neither. Remember, that's a communist dictatorship, so fighting against a liberal capitalist nation would not be easy for them at all. One mistake from the ruler, and they are done and shitty, which did happen very recently with real estate issue, they spent insane amount of money on real estate to build the nation from ground up, but forgot that nobody has money to buy all that many houses, which caused them to have a ton of bankrupted hug companies.

Not that USA is great, I am not here to defend what USA is doing, I am not here to defend USD neither, any proper nation that is managed well would pass USD, that's not my point. I am just saying China is no better than USA when it comes to stupidity, they are equally stupid, but the problem with the world is that we have too many stupid people ruling every nation, when you look at presidents and dictators of many nations, you see that they are so bad that it looks as if they are intentionally ruining the nation, it would require wilful ignorance to be this bad and yet they are still doing it.
This is very true, I do agree that other nations are having trouble as well, the whole world is in trouble right now and poor people are becoming homeless and starving, while middle class is becoming poor. The main evil here is not the nations against each other, it's the leaders and the rich companies and corruption.

There is a good saying, I don't remember which nation it was for, but I will just use examples, the leaders of nation X and Y have more in common with each other than their citizens, and the citizens of nation X and Y have more in common with each other than their leaders. That is the most important thing you can read today and that is why I believe that we are going to have a ton of trouble if we think that our leaders have our best interest in our heart, and that is why I believe that we are going to make bad decisions if we end up with this. I think we need to consider the situation changing, so we need to consider that its leaders that are rich, and making our life worse.

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Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.
The US Dollar will not collapse... at least not in my lifetime. The US Dollar has been the world's reserved currency for more than a century already, and right now, it's still far from collapsing.

Although the Chinese government and the whole BRICS are doing what they can to detach themselves in using the US Dollar, more than 80% of the total countries are still using it, and this amount is still way higher compared to the other currencies combined. The videos that you're watching are either anti-dollar (which is a weird term coming from me), or... I don't know they maybe just creating the video for the sake of content only. Right now, what the BRICS are doing has little to no effect towards the USD, and although I expect them to continue for the next years and decades, it will take time. De-dollarization is taking place already, but in a slow pace.

Will we see the Dollar collapsing? There might be a time in the future that it will collapse, but I don't know when it will happen. One thing's for sure though, it will not happen in my lifetime, or even in my generation.

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August 17, 2024, 09:50:51 AM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.


Dollar collapse? I can't necessarily believe that but yes I know nothing is permanent and in as much as change is a constant thing, definitely yes the US dollars can as well  fall on a lower rate which will be favourable to the markets and other sector too.

cause from the look of things I think the US dollars has a very high dominance over other currencies in the World today which makes them as a Hero,but having it collapse anytime soon will be helpful cause it will lead to productivity in other currencies like fiat currencies too.But like I said it's really unimaginable that  there would be an insurgency of dollar collapse.

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August 17, 2024, 10:38:29 AM
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Quite a lot of people believe that a state is like a small timer business.
A state is a layered creation which has quite some time to grow.
Especially in the states, where the government has developed a symbiotic relationship with the economy.
What can be developed and can be an income will continue to be done by each country because the economic relationship that can benefit both parties is not a small enough business because a small business is just a business that does not have a large enough income. Now almost all countries are struggling to keep their own currency valuable and not dependent on other currencies, so there will be many unique possibilities that can occur in the world economy in the future. And everyone must be ready for any changes that may occur.

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The US Dollar will not collapse... at least not in my lifetime. The US Dollar has been the world's reserved currency for more than a century already, and right now, it's still far from collapsing.

Although the Chinese government and the whole BRICS are doing what they can to detach themselves in using the US Dollar, more than 80% of the total countries are still using it, and this amount is still way higher compared to the other currencies combined. The videos that you're watching are either anti-dollar (which is a weird term coming from me), or... I don't know they maybe just creating the video for the sake of content only. Right now, what the BRICS are doing has little to no effect towards the USD, and although I expect them to continue for the next years and decades, it will take time. De-dollarization is taking place already, but in a slow pace.

Will we see the Dollar collapsing? There might be a time in the future that it will collapse, but I don't know when it will happen. One thing's for sure though, it will not happen in my lifetime, or even in my generation.

If you look at the history of the world economy, it becomes clear that no state could dominate forever, there was always a moment when the player changed, I think that this trend will play out in the future, but if the dollar collapses, then I think it will happen last, and first all other national currencies will experience an even greater fall than the dollar, so if it makes sense to keep savings in fiat currency, then only in dollars, and perhaps a little in euros, but they will lose to bitcoin, due to inflation.

If there is a negative outcome for the Yen with its 30 year old QE programs, if FED failed USA with its endless QE then its also true Euro will be cursed with this debt till it fails.   What began with one of the strongest banks in the world, west Germany for years has issued premium debt due to good governance has now switched to bail outs for Greece and corruption across Europe, the worst debt was bought to back Euro.

This all was done on purpose, Euro would have risen strongly vs dollar long ago otherwise.   Its part of what makes the working wage so weak now and 2 people can barely pay the household bills in many families its a struggle even while full time employed.

Don't think that I am a conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but I see it as a coordinated action to keep the population at a certain level, when their income will be just enough to provide for basic needs.

Governments do not want the population to become wealthy, it is easier to control them, and if the population is in debt in large enough numbers, then it is even better, because they live in liabilities. I also thought that the euro should be stronger than the dollar, but this is not allowed to happen, and perhaps it will not change in the future, or the difference will be too insignificant.

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August 17, 2024, 06:58:23 PM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.

I was born in the time of the USSR Smiley
Since my childhood before the collapse of this anti-human education I heard “the dollar is worthless, the collapse of the dollar is inevitable, tomorrow the dollar will collapse,...” and so on mental perversions Smiley

The USSR collapsed, the Warsaw Pact alliance collapsed. The economies of countries that set the destruction of the dollar as the goal of their lives, and at the cost of the lives of their citizens, are collapsing. But... The dollar, with all the nuances continues to live and is considered a demanded currency. By the way, all totalitarian rulers “fighting the USA” keep their savings in the dollar Smiley
This is from practice.
Now a question from theory - have you calculated what will happen to the world economy in the “collapse of the dollar” ?  Do you really dream about it ?  Honestly ?

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August 17, 2024, 07:08:05 PM
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I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts...

There are good, beautiful, and smart things on YouTube, how did you end up watching some "self-proclaimed" expert out of all that?

I would like to see the dollar collapse, as well as all other fiat currencies. They are all the same, centralized schemes of politicians, bankers, and already too many rich individuals. This world, and we together with it, will not see better days as long as their rule lasts. These people are not interested in people and nature, they only care about more profit and how to become even richer.

Never a dirtier and more polluted world, never more poor and hungry people, wars everywhere... but they keep talking about how everything is fine and how it will get even better. We are being fucked in the brain, but it's obvious that most people aren't even aware of it.

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August 17, 2024, 07:39:09 PM
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When dollar collapse ?
I keep seeing on Youtube and from experts the dooms day for USA and dollar ?
Actually dollar collapse means weak dollar and its not bad thing it means lower rates of fed so it's good for economic boost.
But i ask when the dollar colllapse lol? They keep telling us how bad is the dollar and so much doom and gloom.
So are we really see dollar collapse ? And when ? 
It's grazy how much everybody talking about end of usa and dollar...it sounds funny also.

Dollar collapse? I can't necessarily believe that but yes I know nothing is permanent and in as much as change is a constant thing, definitely yes the US dollars can as well  fall on a lower rate which will be favourable to the markets and other sector too.

cause from the look of things I think the US dollars has a very high dominance over other currencies in the World today which makes them as a Hero,but having it collapse anytime soon will be helpful cause it will lead to productivity in other currencies like fiat currencies too.But like I said it's really unimaginable that  there would be an insurgency of dollar collapse.

If you look at the history of everything that reaches the peak of its glory will inevitably collapse too, as before the Poundsterling or others such as the VOC and or the Otoman dynasty and others who once ruled the world they experienced a decline, just as you revealed that nothing is forever in this world, there must be a point of destruction, and as we believe the world is rotating and taking turns.

So with the Dollar or the US which is a superpower in this world, influencing most of the world with its dollar, and surely they will also lose their throne, and I also quite believe that when such things happen there is always a rebellion or a big war to replace power.

It sounds like a conspiracy but history always repeats itself.
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August 17, 2024, 09:15:23 PM
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I would like to see the dollar collapse, as well as all other fiat currencies.

As if crypto is clean as baby's behind.
It won't happen, a quite large % or crypto lover hate FIAT, forgetting that Crypto without FIAT would not even exist.
Bitcoin was created to enable value transfers from P to P. Not to replace FIAT.   

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August 17, 2024, 09:49:20 PM
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Dollar is a fiat to a country so if dollar collapsed, it will affect the citizens of that country and internationally, it will affect many businesses but those countries that are forced to accept dollar for exchange purpose will be liberated. And free trade might be implemented in the African continent. And African countries will be free from the neo-colonialism.
I only know that, dollar was down in the 20s and not now. As we speak dollar is the number one strongest currency in the world.

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