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October 05, 2024, 01:03:25 PM
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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet. Normally, the prediction was perfect but the outcome of the game was just unexpected. The skill game like poker also depends on luck, because you can not be very certain about the outcome. One can get disappointed in gambling on the game they attached all their hope to.
There is always a belief in sport betting that when you go for games with lower odds, the chances of you winning are always very high compared to when you place a bet on higher odds, which is what I believe the man did in that place, but the result did not just happen the way it was predicted that day, but other days it has been working for them. I have someone who is also good at doing that on a daily basis, but he focusses specifically on live matches.
I don't think this is a belief but that is actually how it is and the same criteria the bookies use in setting the odds. The lower the odd of the game, the higher the chances of success of the game and vice versa. There may be exception like in the case of the underdogs winning the game like we had it in recent champions league matches where both Real Madrid and Bayern Munic lost their respective matches to their opponents even when people though it would require a miracle for them to lose. However, the probability of delivering for smaller odds is higher and the outcome of such matches often goes as predicted.

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October 05, 2024, 01:15:50 PM
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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet. Normally, the prediction was perfect but the outcome of the game was just unexpected. The skill game like poker also depends on luck, because you can not be very certain about the outcome. One can get disappointed in gambling on the game they attached all their hope to.
There is always a belief in sport betting that when you go for games with lower odds, the chances of you winning are always very high compared to when you place a bet on higher odds, which is what I believe the man did in that place, but the result did not just happen the way it was predicted that day, but other days it has been working for them. I have someone who is also good at doing that on a daily basis, but he focusses specifically on live matches.

Some person thinks that small odds can have a high chance of winning but it only happen in some matches. Some small odds can even mess up your bet just like it did for the person I described above. While gambling, do not just put 100% hope into any bet because you don't know the outcome yet.

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October 05, 2024, 03:20:07 PM
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There is a chance that the nature of the game has something to do with the gender that plays in that game most. There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.
You are actually right about this. Women generally just love to have fun the easy way. Luck based games involves no stress in playing and the fact that it gives instant results is another thing that makes it addictive not just to women, but to some male gamblers also. Although there are Women who can actually do well with skills based gambling games, the percentage of these Women are too small compared to the other ones who prefer luck based casino games.

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.
When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment.

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October 05, 2024, 03:24:30 PM
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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet. Normally, the prediction was perfect but the outcome of the game was just unexpected. The skill game like poker also depends on luck, because you can not be very certain about the outcome. One can get disappointed in gambling on the game they attached all their hope to.
There is always a belief in sport betting that when you go for games with lower odds, the chances of you winning are always very high compared to when you place a bet on higher odds, which is what I believe the man did in that place, but the result did not just happen the way it was predicted that day, but other days it has been working for them. I have someone who is also good at doing that on a daily basis, but he focusses specifically on live matches.

Some person thinks that small odds can have a high chance of winning but it only happen in some matches. Some small odds can even mess up your bet just like it did for the person I described above. While gambling, do not just put 100% hope into any bet because you don't know the outcome yet.
If bettors would really be just simply sticking with favorites then tons of bettors will get rich or having simply with easy life. We do know that its really that total random since there would really be factors that could affect total outcome. This is where people do really become that too desperate in sticking into favorites on which we know that we cant be able to make out that assurance.  Skill based or luck ones then it will really be something that differ into your preference. Outcomes and results will really be just that depending on which winning will be basing up but actually it could really be that always matter on how you do enjoy the game.
Winning isnt something that guaranteed but what matter the most is on how you would really be able to enjoy things and dont mind much about winning.

Choices will really up to you, outcomes and results is something that random and thats why its really important that you shouldnt be that making yourself that being desperate on trying to push up
on being a winner. So it will really be basing up into your interest on this case.


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October 05, 2024, 03:36:33 PM
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When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment


Controlling emotions not easy as it may seems , aslong one has already started gambling the chances of he or she getting overwhelmed by their emotions is high , because no one enjoys losing money , yeah when one emotions is off he or she will only endup increasing or multiplying that losses in the end that's why no matter how hard it may seems one should always do so in controlling their emotions, by having a good self-control.

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October 05, 2024, 03:51:16 PM
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It's true that there are many women who don't analyze and think too much so they don't get drunk with searches. Since gambling is a game of chance, girls treat gambling as a game of chance and place bets. They think it means risky gambling so they place the bet just for fun. But not everyone is the same, so there are women who want to know and research about gambling. They gamble like me because of the addiction to make money and get rich. Moreover it will be up to each person to choose gambling based on skill or luck because if they don't want to feel hard on gambling then they will gamble based on luck.

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October 05, 2024, 04:07:06 PM
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When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment


Controlling emotions not easy as it may seems , aslong one has already started gambling the chances of he or she getting overwhelmed by their emotions is high , because no one enjoys losing money , yeah when one emotions is off he or she will only endup increasing or multiplying that losses in the end that's why no matter how hard it may seems one should always do so in controlling their emotions, by having a good self-control.

When betting, anyone will get emotional if what they bet loses, and I agree with you, it is not an easy thing to control emotions and often we see those who lose in betting will be emotional and if they can't control it, of course, they will suffer even greater losses.
If someone bets on a luck-based game when they are emotional they will certainly continue their bets as long as they still have funds that they can use and in terms of skill games of course they will no longer make the right decisions and this will of course make them lose again in betting, to be able to control emotions I think we must be able to accept everything that we experience while betting and not to let The game dominates us so that we continue to play until we don't have any money left.
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October 05, 2024, 04:14:32 PM
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When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment


Controlling emotions not easy as it may seems , aslong one has already started gambling the chances of he or she getting overwhelmed by their emotions is high , because no one enjoys losing money , yeah when one emotions is off he or she will only endup increasing or multiplying that losses in the end that's why no matter how hard it may seems one should always do so in controlling their emotions, by having a good self-control.

When betting, anyone will get emotional if what they bet loses, and I agree with you, it is not an easy thing to control emotions and often we see those who lose in betting will be emotional and if they can't control it, of course, they will suffer even greater losses.
If someone bets on a luck-based game when they are emotional they will certainly continue their bets as long as they still have funds that they can use and in terms of skill games of course they will no longer make the right decisions and this will of course make them lose again in betting, to be able to control emotions I think we must be able to accept everything that we experience while betting and not to let The game dominates us so that we continue to play until we don't have any money left.
No matter how one can control their emotions, they will always feel depressed if they lose, and the worse is they will be more depressed when they lose big money.
However, I think that it is only those that won't be depressed even if they lose big money are the ones that can gamble for fun. Most Times because we still have money in our hands is also one of the reasons that we continue games, recently I bet on virtual games and I was losing but because I still have some leftover money on my bet account I still continue gambling. Sometimes the reason for that is probably because we are not yet satisfied. Although, if we deposit a decent amount on our bet account and the money still remains when we are not satisfied we should continue gambling mostly if we are gambling for fun.

 
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October 05, 2024, 07:07:58 PM
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Luck-based gambling, like slot games, takes little time to finish. You might spend so much money within a few minutes and wouldn't recognize it unless you are conscious. As you said, sports bets take more time to analyse and predict.

Football games take approximately an hour and thirty minutes, which is time for waiting for the outcome. But in slots in seconds, the results are out. Thus, I accept that gamblers might end up spending more on luck-based games than the other. But some gamblers spend so much on sports games, so my conclusion is not sacrosanct.

Gambling is a complex combination of luck and skill. In games like roulette and slots, luck is the dominant factor, with the outcome largely based on randomness. In games like poker and blackjack, skill plays a greater role, with players able to make strategic decisions that affect their chances of winning. However, even in these games, the element of luck cannot be completely ignored, as a single unexpected card can change the course of the game. So, it can be said that gambling is a game that requires a combination of luck and skill, with the importance of each varying from game to game.

 
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I think gender cannot be used as a benchmark for someone's interests, or what I mean is that although overall those involved in gambling, especially sports games, are men, it does not mean that women cannot learn various skills and engage in sports betting, a person's choices and preferences cannot be measured by gender, sometimes women can be smarter in learning than men, so this is still abstract, in the sense that the male gambler population is certainly larger, but there are always some of them who are women and it does not mean that women always prefer types of games that depend on luck over skill-based bets.
And another thing about which type of game has the potential to be faster and spend more money, of course it is a type of game of luck regardless of your gender.

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October 05, 2024, 08:17:18 PM
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Gambling is largely assumed to be based on luck and that’s because, even in the skill based games, there are times when the outcome ignores all the odds against it for produce a result that is most unbelievable in the knowledge of the game. Still, it would be having to deny what is right before your face to say that, gambling haven’t got skill in them. Most sportbet based forms to gambling have got a great deal of skill about them. You wouldn’t find yourself betting against a top tier team to lose against certain teams in the lower divisions. It almost feels as though, you’re ready to throw that money away even though, it’s always the idea we are asked to approach gambling with.
When it comes to casino games, certain games have been known to be associated with skill, the poker face, that’s a skill. Have that and you’ve got certain edge about the game.

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October 05, 2024, 08:32:32 PM
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When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment


Controlling emotions not easy as it may seems , aslong one has already started gambling the chances of he or she getting overwhelmed by their emotions is high , because no one enjoys losing money , yeah when one emotions is off he or she will only endup increasing or multiplying that losses in the end that's why no matter how hard it may seems one should always do so in controlling their emotions, by having a good self-control.
Yea it may not be easy, but it is actually achievable. It is adviceable that every gambler has a budget. Such that, even if they win or lose and their emotions wants to come to play, tempting them to play even more, they already have a budget and won't spend more than they have in that budget. An indisciplined gambler might not be able to stick to his budgets, but at the end his finances suffers.

I have been in that position before where I allowed my emotions push me to gamble more than I should.  Now I know I am a better gambler because I know when to stop gambling and the right amounts I should spend on gambling from my budget. From my own experience, I am convinced anyone can control his emotions if he is determined to.

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It doesn't matter whether you play with skill or just with luck because after all, gambling itself is a game of luck. Indeed, when you have experience in gambling at least it will make you have skills but still, for you to be able to win in gambling it will still require luck. So, for me personally it doesn't matter how big or how high you feel you have skills in gambling in the many choices of games available, because the main factor in gambling is luck, not skill and also not experience. But indeed, at least having knowledge will still be good, but if you need to win in gambling of course all those elements must be owned to be able to support gamblers to have good results compared to those who rely on only one factor.

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October 05, 2024, 10:14:01 PM
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I think gender cannot be used as a benchmark for someone's interests, or what I mean is that although overall those involved in gambling, especially sports games, are men, it does not mean that women cannot learn various skills and engage in sports betting, a person's choices and preferences cannot be measured by gender, sometimes women can be smarter in learning than men, so this is still abstract, in the sense that the male gambler population is certainly larger, but there are always some of them who are women and it does not mean that women always prefer types of games that depend on luck over skill-based bets.

What I think is that women do not like stressed therefore they will prefer to go for game that are luck based than skilled based. Alot of woman that I know that are gambling are not playing sport games, they prefer to play casinos games therefore I can agree that the OP is making sense with his assumption. I know that there are some woman that like sport betting and they use to be  usually so good at it but majority are not into sport betting. Naturally women do not like sport, they do not even watch their follow woman playing sports but prefer to watch men. Sport betting is a game that men love because they are naturally drawn to sport as they start supporting their favourite club from childhood but women support clubs that are winning at that particular time, I know not all women do this but a majority of them are guilty.

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It doesn't matter whether you play with skill or just with luck because after all, gambling itself is a game of luck. Indeed, when you have experience in gambling at least it will make you have skills but still, for you to be able to win in gambling it will still require luck. So, for me personally it doesn't matter how big or how high you feel you have skills in gambling in the many choices of games available, because the main factor in gambling is luck, not skill and also not experience. But indeed, at least having knowledge will still be good, but if you need to win in gambling of course all those elements must be owned to be able to support gamblers to have good results compared to those who rely on only one factor.
I agree with what you said, it is not wrong when we gamble with the skills we have, whether it is skills in treatment or thinking skills, but still to be able to win luck is a factor that will determine it, now if we continue to force ourselves by trying as hard as possible to gamble with the skills we have there will be no victory that can be achieved if we ourselves do not have luck so we must also be aware of the luck that will determine it.
There is an increased chance of winning when we gamble with the skills we have but on the other hand not all games also require skills to play them because there are games that are indeed very purely dependent on luck and some do require us to have skills, if basically the game we like does not require skills then it is better not to overdo it, gamble reasonably by waiting for luck to give a chance to win.

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Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?


I will agree with your observations here that luck based games can make a gambler spend more money because while playing, one would feel they are almost at the brink of winning a game and they would feel they should try maybe luck would shine on them and they begin to play again and again. I have had this experience and it is just natural that such keeps repeating itself often and often. But one thing gamblers should know is that when it comes to playing of games, be it a skilled game or not, there must always be a winner and a loser and as such, should always have it in mind to gamble for fun.

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October 06, 2024, 02:39:32 PM
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I think gender cannot be used as a benchmark for someone's interests, or what I mean is that although overall those involved in gambling, especially sports games, are men, it does not mean that women cannot learn various skills and engage in sports betting, a person's choices and preferences cannot be measured by gender, sometimes women can be smarter in learning than men, so this is still abstract, in the sense that the male gambler population is certainly larger, but there are always some of them who are women and it does not mean that women always prefer types of games that depend on luck over skill-based bets.

What I think is that women do not like stressed therefore they will prefer to go for game that are luck based than skilled based. Alot of woman that I know that are gambling are not playing sport games, they prefer to play casinos games therefore I can agree that the OP is making sense with his assumption. I know that there are some woman that like sport betting and they use to be  usually so good at it but majority are not into sport betting. Naturally women do not like sport, they do not even watch their follow woman playing sports but prefer to watch men. Sport betting is a game that men love because they are naturally drawn to sport as they start supporting their favourite club from childhood but women support clubs that are winning at that particular time, I know not all women do this but a majority of them are guilty.

Above I said that gender cannot be used as a benchmark to know someone's preferences and choices and I think of course that's right, as I said that there are always some women who like to bet on sports and there are always some men who prefer casino games, or vice versa, it's abstract as I said, but in general yes of course I can also say that most women prefer casino games, I don't know the exact reason whether it's because they don't want to stress about learning various skills in sports or not, but I think there seems to be another reason that makes more sense. On the other hand I don't think you can say anything in too much detail without providing evidence, because this is still speculation between perspectives.

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Although you are actually right about drake and his huge gambling habit, but we are different people and our souce if income differs. he has other means of income where he has hope to gamble that much otherwise he would have reduced his level of staking. Afterall I can't compare myself to him. The $1k insanity I am emphasizing on, is that it is better to stake on a reasonable odd like 1.5,  2,  2.5 or 3odd to multiply his wager by any of the reasonable multiplier, than risking to nothing. For example if he devide $1k by two, it will be $500 each. Let say $500 *1.1odd =550 or 500*1.3=650. although it's a matter of choice and I can't really blame him %100 because $50 or $150 profit is a reasonable money if could have won. But if was me I would divide $1k in to 10 places or 5 places with 3odd in each stake with $100 of which if 3 tickets where lucky to have entered I would be able to recover my initial spending.

I understand everything you've said, even if I had that $1k to spend on sport betting, I would not just spend it on a single bet but would rather split the money into ten place, reason because I know that if I stake the whole money in one bet, my success is not guarantee. I understand that drake is a big fish in the industry and before any gambler can stake such huge amounts in a single bet and low odds, they already have more money than that.

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October 06, 2024, 03:30:16 PM
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Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?


I will agree with your observations here that luck based games can make a gambler spend more money because while playing, one would feel they are almost at the brink of winning a game and they would feel they should try maybe luck would shine on them and they begin to play again and again. I have had this experience and it is just natural that such keeps repeating itself often and often. But one thing gamblers should know is that when it comes to playing of games, be it a skilled game or not, there must always be a winner and a loser and as such, should always have it in mind to gamble for fun.

Yes, it makes sense because with skill based games for example cards, if you don't get the right set of cards you know that you are about to lose.
Hence you don't increase your betting amount but the opposite is for luck based games.
With each bet you think that you are about to win and you increase the bet amount but eventually you lose.

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October 06, 2024, 04:19:16 PM
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Yes, it makes sense because with skill based games for example cards, if you don't get the right set of cards you know that you are about to lose.
Hence you don't increase your betting amount but the opposite is for luck based games.
With each bet you think that you are about to win and you increase the bet amount but eventually you lose.
In luck based games, luck certainly plays a very important role, almost 100% of it is really because of luck. However, for skill based gambling, the influence of luck is in line with the gamblers' abilities in that realm.


Source: skill + or vs luck??

It is undeniable that luck still exists and continues to be influential anywhere. However, we must also remember that when it comes to skill based games, it is better for us to also have skills, not just based on luck. so that the combination of skill + luck can optimize the chances of winning

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