Play Chess for Crypto

[Kapteiner]

Escrow service for chess players to play against each other for price money deriving from the 2 players.
Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

Edit: To all the people talking about me being a newbie and shouldn't be trusted:
No disrespect to the forum but there is a life out there and your status on this forum is not a measurement of anyones Integrity. Also if I wanted to scam people then this would not even be top 10 of my best ideas. I love chess. The Commision isnt there to make me rich. I. Doing this because I feel This will develop the game and add another element of fun to it.
Also if I scam 1 game then surely word will get out and it will be the end of my business. It will be stupid.

Telegram: https://t.me/chess4crypto

[programmer3666]

Escrow service for chess players to play against each other for price money deriving from the 2 players.
Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

Telegram: https://t.me/chess4crypto

I will probably lose all my stake in the game because I suck at playing chess. I have tried to learn that game on various occasions but whenever I felt like I was making progress, someone just came up and embarrassingly won me, so I stopped learning.

[AlphaBoy]

I had this idea for months, but I couldn't bring it to life—not in a website, at least, since I am a half-assed coder.

Let me give you a tip: it will be a hell of boredom unless you make some ground rules here and there.

1-Players can agree on the time of playing, but they can't choose more than 1 moment timer for each move.
2-No Control + Z.
3-The game can't last more than 1 hour unless both players agree on that. Some chess pros will torture the enemy by getting 5 queens, even though they can blunder it, and when it's a money-losing situation, declaring defeat won't be fun at all, so put a timer.
4-Take your fees only from the winner and make it 10%, if ended in draw take 5% from each, if you take it directly from the start they won't play.

I hope this can help you, I love chess and might play once you lunched a website

[steve5946]

Escrow service for chess players to play against each other for price money deriving from the 2 players.
Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

Telegram: https://t.me/chess4crypto

You are a newbie and you want to hold people's money as escrow. What prevents you from scaming them?

While your idea is interesting, I suggest people make use of trusted users here as escrow. For instance, Hhampuz, Yahoo62278, and others

[yahoo62278]

Escrow service for chess players to play against each other for price money deriving from the 2 players.
Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

Telegram: https://t.me/chess4crypto

You are a newbie and you want to hold people's money as escrow. What prevents you from scaming them?

While your idea is interesting, I suggest people make use of trusted users here as escrow. For instance, Hhampuz, Yahoo62278, and others

Never trust a newbie on the internet to hold funds IMO. On top of that, he wants a 7.5% fee lol which is more than double what trusted escrows on this forum charge. There are plenty of other known and trusted users here to help those of you who may be interested in this sort of thing.

[memehunter]

Escrow service for chess players to play against each other for price money deriving from the 2 players.
Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

And how do you plan to prevent cheating? Nowadays, with advanced tools so easily available, it is almost impossible to even detect cheating, let alone prevent it.

[Kapteiner]

Good question.

We will be using chess.com who is very good with detecting bots.
Furthermore I will not allow games longer than 10mins a side. It is very hard to cheat when you have a tight time limit.
Another thing I will monitor is their accuracy percentage. Bots have a 97% to 100% accuracy and unless you are a grandmaster, your accuracy percentage SHOULD NOT and CAN Not be 97% +. Im not saying that I will automatically disqualify such a player based on that evidence alone, but I would have a very close eye on that game and might even ask for help from experts to analyze the game.

At the end I cannot guarentee a 100% honest playfield, just like any other sport, activity, institution, government etc. But I can put measurements in place to minimize it to the point of no significance.


Hope I answered your question.

[memehunter]

Good question.
Hope I answered your question.

LOL!  Oh boy! You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. For example: How would you detect if any player cheats in only two or three moves? How much time and resources would it take to analyze such games at scale?
Sooner or later, your PvP platform will become EvE (Engine vs Engine)  , just like every other platform providing such games. This is exactly why no major casino is providing PvP chess. Even chess platforms with the best resources and skills to prevent cheating are not providing PvP chess for money. Even their tournaments do not have attractive prize money, and only high-rating chess players participate (GMs and IMs cannot cheat repeatedly against each other because they are playing under their own names and their reputation is at stake).
You can argue the same for poker, but it is still not fully solved (and luck plays a major role), although online poker is on the decline for precisely this reason.

[ABCbits]

Service you offer is very specific and i'm not sure there are many people who own crypto and play chess. Anyway, you probably want to add some detail (such as supported cryptocurrency and how you handle network TX fee) to make your service looks more convincing.

Good question.

We will be using chess.com who is very good with detecting bots.
Furthermore I will not allow games longer than 10mins a side. It is very hard to cheat when you have a tight time limit.

Are you aware of Stockfish (probably most popular chess engine)? If someone install that on their device, they could switch window/app (between chess.com and stockfish) and able to see good moves from the engine in less than a minute.

[DaveF]

Good question.
Hope I answered your question.

LOL!  Oh boy! You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. For example: How would you detect if any player cheats in only two or three moves? How much time and resources would it take to analyze such games at scale?
Sooner or later, your PvP platform will become EvE (Engine vs Engine)  , just like every other platform providing such games. This is exactly why no major casino is providing PvP chess. Even chess platforms with the best resources and skills to prevent cheating are not providing PvP chess for money. Even their tournaments do not have attractive prize money, and only high-rating chess players participate (GMs and IMs cannot cheat repeatedly against each other because they are playing under their own names and their reputation is at stake).
You can argue the same for poker, but it is still not fully solved (and luck plays a major role), although online poker is on the decline for precisely this reason.

Actually it will always be EvE chess.com and others although they like to brag about how good they are at detecting they are far from perfect, not to mention the ease of programming in a way to make your bot less then perfect. Remember, your bot does not have to be perfect, just better then the bot it's playing against.

Big game companies spend BILLIONS and still can't get all the bots off their online games. Chess.com has 100 million a year in revenue and thinks they can do better.

-Dave

[SFR10]

Player 1 and Player 2 will arrange a match and stipulate the rules as well as each players contribution. The winner takes all less 7.5% Commision.

Considering that you're probably not going to deal with a large player base, you might want to add incentives for losers to come back and play again ^{[e.g. it can be some kind of reward based on the number of games, but it might require having a dedicated platform to track stuff easily]}.

Edit: To all the people talking about me being a newbie and shouldn't be trusted:
No disrespect to the forum but there is a life out there and your status on this forum is not a measurement of anyones Integrity.

Both sides have valid points... An alternative route would be a multisig setup, but it complicates the whole process.

[Vod]

This idea is dead on arrival.

#1) Why are you needed?
#2) Why do you get a commission?

There are already many chess games like this out there that run automatically 24/7.  It's easier for them to add crypto that you to surpass their platforms,

[Kapteiner]

Look I offer a service which some might be interested in. We've had 7 Games already and 4 people participated.

I'm not building a massive brand. And I'm not doing this to make a fortune or even to make a living. It's a sideline project for me.

I am not needed, you are right. But if 2 guys wanna play for money then at least I am a reputable option to consider.

[memehunter]

Look I offer a service which some might be interested in. We've had 7 Games already and 4 people participated.

Post links to games (which you claim to have conducted successfully) and payments.

I am a reputable option to consider.

[Vod]

Look I offer a service which some might be interested in. We've had 7 Games already and 4 people participated.

Post links to games (which you claim to have conducted successfully) and payments.

I agree.  If you make a claim, you need to back it up, or we will not trust anything you say. 

[Z-tight]

I'm not building a massive brand. And I'm not doing this to make a fortune or even to make a living. It's a sideline project for me.

You are charging as high as 7.5 commission, that is a lot in my honest opinion, especially since you are just trying to start this up, why will one want to pay a commission that high to use your service?

I am not needed, you are right. But if 2 guys wanna play for money then at least I am a reputable option to consider.

Why do you think you are a reputable option?

Look I offer a service which some might be interested in. We've had 7 Games already and 4 people participated.

A perfect way to start is by proving this.

[NotATether]

Good question.

We will be using chess.com who is very good with detecting bots.
Furthermore I will not allow games longer than 10mins a side. It is very hard to cheat when you have a tight time limit.

Chess.com only detects bots some time after the game ends though - int's not instantaneous. Besides, bots like Stockfish can easily play a 10-minute game. Not very hard when you're feeding the information into stockfish by mirroring the other player's moves on another board.

The asymmetrical nature of chess inevitably favors the high ELO players to get all the rewards though, it's not a luck-based game.

[Vod]

Trust is not shown in PD.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2661776

I left him negative trust four years ago, and he has just come back.

OP:  If you can prove what we ask, I'll forgive your mistake from four years ago, and remove the bad words on your trust. 

[examplens]

This idea is dead on arrival.

#1) Why are you needed?
#2) Why do you get a commission?

There are already many chess games like this out there that run automatically 24/7.  It's easier for them to add crypto that you to surpass their platforms,

There are also proven escrow platforms with significantly lower fees, such as Zenland, https://zen.land/ and inviting an agent who will control the regularity, is certainly a much better solution than using an unknown person via telegram

[ditec_wrogn]

Hey there,

Just wanted to drop in and say that the idea of an escrow service for chess players is pretty cool! It could definitely add some excitement to the game. However, I think it's essential to have clear terms and conditions and a secure way to handle the funds.