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August 12, 2024, 10:16:19 AM Last edit: August 12, 2024, 10:26:42 AM by anarkiboy |
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I am now sure that you have already spammed with similar nonsense with some of your other accounts in the past - but that only means that you are there for a reason to spread FUD - whether it is because someone is paying you for it (unlikely) , even more so that you are very likely to be disappointed because you missed the opportunity to profit on Bitcoin while you were earning some small change trading shares (allegedly).
You better stop making a fool of yourself, because if you're not interested in Bitcoin, who the hell are you doing on this forum?
I don't have any other accounts on this forum, if we take your approach then I can tell you have hundreds of accounts here on forum ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I may have similar opinions to other forum members, I have spend a lot of time reading this forum and I don't earn anything from it aside from information. I'm here on this forum because I like to discuss technologies and I have been heavily invested in Bitcoin in the past when it was still regarded as scam by regular folks like you. What I have wrote may be regarded as FUD, but it's not FUD without backing. I doubt you will understand anything from what I wrote here. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think you should visit /r/Bitcoin, it's the largest echo-chamber of them all. You will love it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Can you at least confront my FUD with facts that say otherwise ? What I have wrote that seem not true to you ? the fact that Bitcoin is a software ? or the fact that it's volatility is higher than 10 years ago ?
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August 12, 2024, 10:28:36 AM |
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~snip~ I'm here on this forum because I like to discuss technologies and I have been heavily invested in Bitcoin in the past when it was still regarded as scam by regular folks like you.
From someone who until now claimed that he only traded stocks for 20 years, you turn into one of the first supporters of Bitcoin, what's next, you will say that you personally had coffee with Hal Finney or maybe Satoshi? I never thought that Bitcoin was a scam, unlike people like you (Buffett Boys) who are just looking for an opportunity to prove themselves to the old man - as if that would mean something. What I have wrote may be regarded as FUD, but it's not FUD without backing.
Backed with what exactly? You have written nothing but your personal beliefs in which you claim that Bitcoin is an outdated technology. I doubt you will understand anything from what I wrote here. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) When there are no more arguments, then you go with ad hominem attacks - implying that I don't understand what you write and calling other forum members idiots is obviously your greatest achievement on this forum.
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anarkiboy
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August 12, 2024, 10:32:59 AM |
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From someone who until now claimed that he only traded stocks for 20 years, you turn into one of the first supporters of Bitcoin, what's next, you will say that you personally had coffee with Hal Finney or maybe Satoshi?
It's nice that you have time to read my other posts, No - I did not had coffee with any of them ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Backed with what exactly? You have written nothing but your personal beliefs in which you claim that Bitcoin is an outdated technology.
Higher volatility can be easily checked on charts ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) and the outdated part Bitcoin users can feel on their own skin with high fees and long transaction times. When there are no more arguments, then you go with ad hominem attacks - implying that I don't understand what you write and calling other forum members idiots is obviously your greatest achievement on this forum.
I knew you will not understand a word, forum achievements ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You're not a very bright person...
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August 12, 2024, 02:29:01 PM |
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~snip~ I knew you will not understand a word, forum achievements ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You're not a very bright person... As I've already written, your greatest achievement is to attack someone on a personal level - and now I'm pretty sure you've posted on this forum before using other accounts. Maybe I'm not (and I'm sure not) the brightest member of this forum, but at least I'm not a lying piece of trash who hides behind an alt account and pretends to be a trader with 20 years of experience, while at the same time acting like a spoiled brat which is still dependent on mom and dad.
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The video is there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxrffRNJNKMIt is for Bitcoin price history from 2010 to 2021, not till today in 2024, in live action. By watching this live price video, we can feel how challenge it was for people who owned and held bitcoin previous years, especially in very earliest years. By watching this, it can help newbies to feel more confident on Bitcoin survival and its strength, to give them own strength to be less panic, and hold their bitcoin. Be strong and keep holding your bitcoin. If you sale off in panic, you will be like many people in the past. This is a good video, giving people the overview of what it was really like, that bitcoin is cyclical, and that whatever you lost, as long as you haven't sold a single satoshi, could still be gained back and made profit from. However, it has to be said that compared to the peeps back in 2010, we're in a bigger pressure considering that we have to uphold this price point as much as we can. We're sitting at 60k from 29k this time last year, and if stuff goes on we're on trend to reach another ATH by next year. We can't get there however without the help of the people, and the people wouldn't help out if they don't see fit. So yeah, we can show them hundreds of vids like this but we need to give the people a reason to invest and keep their investments.
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August 12, 2024, 05:05:45 PM Last edit: August 12, 2024, 05:21:36 PM by anarkiboy |
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As I've already written, your greatest achievement is to attack someone on a personal level - and now I'm pretty sure you've posted on this forum before using other accounts. Maybe I'm not (and I'm sure not) the brightest member of this forum, but at least I'm not a lying piece of trash who hides behind an alt account and pretends to be a trader with 20 years of experience, while at the same time acting like a spoiled brat which is still dependent on mom and dad.
Sorry that I hurt your feelings (sincerely), I think you spend too much time on the forum. Thank you for your comment on my profile, there is so much energy in it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I doubt anyone reads it tho ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 12, 2024, 06:27:09 PM |
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This is a good video, giving people the overview of what it was really like, that bitcoin is cyclical, and that whatever you lost, as long as you haven't sold a single satoshi, could still be gained back and made profit from. However, it has to be said that compared to the peeps back in 2010, we're in a bigger pressure considering that we have to uphold this price point as much as we can. We're sitting at 60k from 29k this time last year, and if stuff goes on we're on trend to reach another ATH by next year. We can't get there however without the help of the people, and the people wouldn't help out if they don't see fit.
So yeah, we can show them hundreds of vids like this but we need to give the people a reason to invest and keep their investments.
Atleast that would serve as a motivation to some new investors that would always want to panic and talk thrash about Bitcoin when there's a dip. Bitcoin is a very good asset for investment and would continue to be the best Cryptocurrency to invest on, if only you understand it. Most of those investors who complain don't learn before coming into Bitcoin, they just want to put in some money and double it, forgetting it's not some money doubling scheme, I believe that first and foremost,what anyone who wants to start up something should do is to learn about that particular thing and once an investor has made proper research about Bitcoin and has known about volatility, then there won't be any reason to complain, new investors need to normalise studying the circle of Bitcoin to avoid unnecessary complains, they must love both the bear and bull season to succeed in Bitcoin investment.
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August 12, 2024, 07:19:48 PM |
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By watching this, it can help newbies to feel more confident on Bitcoin survival and its strength, to give them own strength to be less panic, and hold their bitcoin.
The signs for newbies are all over the place. The problem is: most of them will miss them. Even getting to this post means luck or experience. Will you give it to me on paper, signed that this is a financial advice you're giving ? and that you will refund me if it doesn't rise again ?
Even if he would send that, would it matter? We are only random "anon" people on the internet. People should understand that there are no proper financial advises on the internet.
Historically Bitcoin "always goes up" if you look at the big picture. However, on smaller periods of time it goes down abruptly. Since we are in the ages of no patience, since many newbies think that bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme, they may get burned (typical FOMP buy high and panic sell low). Right now we are supposed to be in a bull run, although lately the price went more down than up. It's expected to go up again - sooner or later. However, even though the math of halving and the history tells it will go up, there's never a certainty. Does this have to be written down over and over again? Some would say "Maybe". But I don't think so.
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August 12, 2024, 07:26:44 PM |
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Even if he would send that, would it matter? We are only random "anon" people on the internet. People should understand that there are no proper financial advises on the internet.
That's the problem, people have no problem saying it will 100% go up to other people who are seeking financial advice because they do it (semi)anonymously. If you are saying other people to invest because it will surely go up, you should take responsibility if it doesn't go up. Otherwise, why write such claims ? just write "maybe" it will go up or 99% it will go up, but you should never say it will do it for sure. They don't care about other people, they only care about their little bags, that's why they get so angry when someone like me points it out that it's not a 100% given that it will go up and I rightfully call them idiots but they deserve to be called so much more than that.
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That's the problem, people have no problem saying it will 100% go up to other people who are seeking financial advice because they do it (semi)anonymously.
If you are saying other people to invest because it will surely go up, you should take responsibility if it doesn't go up. Otherwise, why write such claims ? just write "maybe" it will go up or 99% it will go up, but you should never say it will do it for sure.
You are not correct. There are also known figures (Michael Saylor, Cathie Wood) who say it publicly. So the semi-anon part is no longer a rule. And.. do you expect them to take any responsibility if things go south? I don't. And you know why? It's not only the experience that tells me to do as I think, not as others say, no. It's that I understand that they are biased and what they say you should see as advertising. (Do you believe when you see on TV that detergent X is n times better than "a normal one"? No, but you might still buy it.) Here it's a bitcoin forum. Many will express their trust and expectations. Is that a financial advice? I'd doubt that. I repeat, it's a bitcoin forum. Would you go to a PlayStation convention and ask whether you should buy PS or Xbox? No. So filter everything through your own brain, take your own conclusions and so on. (It's a general advice for everybody). Sometimes I mark my advices with DYOR/NFA type of warnings. But really, it can easily become tiresome to do so. And if you expect everybody do that.. you are expecting too much.
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August 12, 2024, 07:49:21 PM |
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Even if he would send that, would it matter? We are only random "anon" people on the internet. People should understand that there are no proper financial advises on the internet.
That's the problem, people have no problem saying it will 100% go up to other people who are seeking financial advice because they do it (semi)anonymously. If you are saying other people to invest because it will surely go up, you should take responsibility if it doesn't go up. Otherwise, why write such claims ? just write "maybe" it will go up or 99% it will go up, but you should never say it will do it for sure. They don't care about other people, they only care about their little bags, that's why they get so angry when someone like me points it out that it's not a 100% given that it will go up and I rightfully call them idiots but they deserve to be called so much more than that. In claims like this it is quite dubious because it is not that it will not go up but does not know when it will go up, that is always the reason why the claim "will definitely go up" is difficult to believe because anyone cannot know the future about bitcoin, as well as people who are in the past. I am one of the people who claims bitcoin will definitely go up again, but that is my own confidence for myself not for others, here it is only limited to speculation, I will say for readers this is only for me personally but you depend on how you understand it and should do you on research, your decision is your own responsibility because you did it not me, and on the internet it is a wild assumption, so you have no right to demand responsibility from anyone who says it, because even if it is true you are not asked to pay the person who said it. Stand on your own understanding and your own decisions, make people's words only a reference for your analysis and decisions.
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Yup, knew people who quit in 2020. Seemed inexplicable to me, seeing as they'd held in the previous cycles and while I never lived through them, I felt they were far more devastating, given how young markets were.
Can't imagine anyone letting go since the 16k low though, Bitcoin's hardly threatened 30% from ATH, let alone those years of -85% floors.
It depends, I had a talk with someone who has been holding coins since 2012, selling a few now and then, and when I was curious why he said he doesn't feel that he will keep most of it in the next few years told me simply: "I bought some of those coins for $10, I could have sold at 69k in 2021 or I could have sold at 72k in 2024", and I do understand the guy after making 6000x on something you kind of stop caring if it will make you double the money in another 4 years. Even if he had dumped everything at 20k, he would still have made 2000x, which is a return nobody buying now will see anymore. Also the psychological factor, everyone was safely holding $100-$1000, and most wouldn't have cared if it turned to zero, now if you actually have a few million, you start thinking otherwise, even a 50% is still a loss equal to life without worries.
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