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August 15, 2024, 04:42:02 AM
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Well.. actually I am glad that they blocked DuckDuckGo. This particular search engine is associated with a great number of spyware/adware/spamware factories. A lot of the spyware trojans automatically install DuckDuckGo in your browser and then change it to the default engine. The reason given is wrong, but I fully agree with the action taken by the Indonesian government. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.

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August 15, 2024, 05:02:16 AM
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. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.

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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Are you saying that the search engine isn't allowing you to search anything that's gambling related? Are you from Indonesia or are you using Indonesia VPN? Because this is the only way you can be affected, other countries should be allow or else the search engine will be behind others maybe forever because porn and gambling searches are insane now, this drives insane traffics online.

I don't use duckduckgo search, maybe twice in my life time because we have google and other search engine, even Bing is better, as for the Indonesia country, I am sure that google search engine isn't block in that region, there are people that watch porn and gamble in Indonesia till today, it's just a secret, something that's been done behind closed doors.
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August 15, 2024, 06:30:59 AM
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. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.

This is the same mistake that a lot of countries in Asia seems to be doing. These bans and prohibitions doesn't benefit anyone. On one side, they make the government lose revenue. Gambling has existed for thousands of years and a government ban won't solve anything. Gamblers will always find a way to get their stuff going. And on the other hand, a ban will force gamblers to depend on shady actors, away from government supervision. This will increase the chances of players getting conned.   

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September 21, 2024, 02:17:09 PM
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. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.

This is the same mistake that a lot of countries in Asia seems to be doing. These bans and prohibitions doesn't benefit anyone. On one side, they make the government lose revenue. Gambling has existed for thousands of years and a government ban won't solve anything. Gamblers will always find a way to get their stuff going. And on the other hand, a ban will force gamblers to depend on shady actors, away from government supervision. This will increase the chances of players getting conned.   
For those governments who do have decided on banning out gambling into their country or vicinity then they dont really care on whatever revenue related kind of thing that they will really be that into.
They dont care too much about taxes and other econonomical aspect as long they could ban gambling just because they do really care about their citizens condition when it comes to possible gambling addiction
or the rise of numbers into those people who are really that affected by it. I could say that it would really be that a good gesture or actions made out by the government because it does really shows up that kind of concern and being responsible on protecting it citizens but just like on what you have said that there would really be those people who would really be trying out to bypass everything on which on the moment
that they are interested on playing gambling.

If they would really be liking to play gambling then its not really that hard to bypass any prohibition or bans even if the government would be saying so. There's tons of ways specially that accessibility nowadays
is really that too easy if you do really wanted it, then there's a way. The thing here is that better not to make yourself get caught because on the moment that you do get caught then you do really
know on what are the consequences that you would really be able to encounter. Its always been that recommended that you should really be wary about on the actions that you've been doing
on which this is really just that common sense.

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September 21, 2024, 03:07:46 PM
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Well.. actually I am glad that they blocked DuckDuckGo. This particular search engine is associated with a great number of spyware/adware/spamware factories. A lot of the spyware trojans automatically install DuckDuckGo in your browser and then change it to the default engine. The reason given is wrong, but I fully agree with the action taken by the Indonesian government. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
I know it's been almost a month since you've posted this, but I just stumbled upon this thread, thanks to another user's reply.

I'm going to disagree on this one, I've never used any other search engine except from Google, I believe that the rest of them don't produce relative results, but a ban on a search engine might be the start of restricted internet access and freedom. What if more search engines are banned in the future, and what if internet limitations are introduced, censoring what you're able to view?

 
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September 21, 2024, 04:08:03 PM
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Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.

You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.

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You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.
Yes, you should not gamble in public places, especially if you are close to the police station, it will get you in trouble.
But if you play in a place where there are no officers at all, people won't care.

Indonesia will not be as strict either, what you see in Berta about checking the phones of visitors or tourists is just a formality for a to-do list,
even though they will not do it every day LOL.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.
And yes, if you ask the locals where the local casinos are hidden, they will tell you.
It was completely hidden, and only certain people could enter and know.
Rather than you are curious about local casinos, it is better to play on your mobile phone only, it will be safer.

 
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I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Were you able to find the local casino in Indonesia? I don't think that the government who are after the search engines to filter the gambling sites, how can they allow gambling casinos to operate physically from their land.

I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.

You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.

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You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
You should cancel your intention to visit Indonesia, you will not find an official casino, playing illegally will certainly put you in danger, unless you just want recreation, yes in Indonesia there are many places for recreation, both in the interior of the countryside and in the city, if you want to gamble, don't do it physically

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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Basically, Indonesia is a country that prohibits gambling but in reality, there are more Indonesians who are gamblers because from a few months ago there were also indications that there were also slot bets during the meeting. Of course, this proves that regulations are not always a priority to be obeyed because after all, the reality is that gambling in Indonesia is also still very easy to find or play, whether it's online gambling or physical gambling. So, about the news or information I think it is true, but even if you visit Indonesia it seems like I'm sure you will still easily do and or access gambling. Who knows.

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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Extreme measures such as blocking websites with the intention of punishing a select few but which end up harming the entire population are not only the result of dictatorial countries.
For example, did you see that in Brazil X (Twitter) was blocked because Elon Musk refused to comply with a court order? As a result, the entire population was prevented from accessing X for an indefinite period of time.

Unfortunately, Indonesia is a country that strongly represses gambling, so if your purpose of traveling is to seek this type of entertainment, you better change your mind.
However, if your purpose of traveling is for work or leisure (in other ways), I believe there is not much to worry about.
It is always good to know what the prohibitions are in a country before traveling to it, to avoid problems.

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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

If you want to go for land based casino, I think the closest to Indonesia, you can visit Singapore. there gambling is legal and there are some popular casinos. don't expect you to find local casinos in Indonesia, their government strictly prohibits gambling. there is news in the media that ever discussed that they are facing so many online gambling site attacks. that's what makes the government make the rule.
they might not have a physical casino, therefore online casinos might be the only place for Indonesian gamblers.

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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

We can't do anything about that because that's Indonesia's regulation, and maybe they did that because there might be violators that don't according to their regulation rules. And besides that, as far as I know, the majority of people there are Muslim believers.

Most people know that as long as they are Muslim, they are not allowed to gamble. If they are residents there, they must follow the rules that exist in Indonesia.

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September 21, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
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You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.

Haha Grin, I laugh at the efforts some governments put in to stop people from living their lives. In this present age, the only people the government can successfully stop from gambling are those who are not really passionate about gambling. Real gamblers would always find a way to gamble and it will be very difficult for the government to catch them.

When the government begins to dictate how people should live their lives all because of some religious practice in that country, I see it that the government is trespassing. People should be allowed to do what they enjoy doing, as long as it doesn't cause harm to the next person. Strict gambling regulations like this are not really neccessary.

If the government is wise, they would be making money from gambling instead of investing so much in preventing people from gambling.

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September 21, 2024, 07:40:49 PM
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You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.


VPN can bypass the block but it also leads to blocking our funds cause casinos mentioned that in their terms, people who are from restricted regions are not allowed to gamble so for our own sake it's better not to take that risk cause sooner or later it will get back to us when we have to go through for verification.

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September 21, 2024, 07:58:47 PM
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You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.

Haha Grin, I laugh at the efforts some governments put in to stop people from living their lives. In this present age, the only people the government can successfully stop from gambling are those who are not really passionate about gambling. Real gamblers would always find a way to gamble and it will be very difficult for the government to catch them.

When the government begins to dictate how people should live their lives all because of some religious practice in that country, I see it that the government is trespassing. People should be allowed to do what they enjoy doing, as long as it doesn't cause harm to the next person. Strict gambling regulations like this are not really neccessary.

If the government is wise, they would be making money from gambling instead of investing so much in preventing people from gambling.
Even here in our country on which the government had blocked out a certain exchange platform on which its effective since  the website URL cant really be accessed by its internet provider on which this had resulted out for its site to be non accessible but its true that when the moment that you do make use of VPN then those bans will really be totally useless. Also, they havent totally able to block it out
since you could really be still able to access the platform by its mobile app on which its fully functional and something that you could really be able to say that government cant totally blocked
a certain platform on complete manner. There's always a bypass on everything and this is something that they cant be able to handle it out. People would really be always have the ways on trying out
to get through but just like been said that it is really that better that you should be careful because accessing a site which is being banned will really be imposing some risks specially when you are
getting caught on making use of it.

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September 21, 2024, 10:08:08 PM
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Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.

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September 21, 2024, 11:20:56 PM
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Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.

Keeping in mind Indonesia in a muslin majority country and their government seems to follow the sharia law to sole extent, then I would not be surprised if they started to prosecute those who are found to be using tools like VPNs to avoid the blockage the country has on casinos and other gambling services.
Anyways, I have always thought if someone really wants to gamble from a country where it is forbiden, then thanks to the internet they will find a way. All it takes is to be informed enough on the tools which offer anonymity and how to be used properly.
Also, needless to say those Indonesians who manage to hit some jackpot while gambling on some casino (which still welcomes them) won't have to pay taxes to the government, but st the same time they will have a hard time explaining the source of the money to police.

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