Request for Input: Best Place for Bitcoin-Related US Presidential 2024 Discussio

[ditec_wrogn]

Hi everyone,

I hope you're all doing well. I've noticed that the "Bitcoin Discussion" board is currently filled with discussions about the US Presidential 2024 election. I'm unsure whether a Bitcoin-related US Presidential 2024 discussion would fit better in the "Bitcoin Discussion" board or the "Politics & Society" board. Here are the definitions provided by our moderator, mprep:

Bitcoin Discussion - "General discussion about the Bitcoin ecosystem that doesn't fit better elsewhere. News, the Bitcoin community, innovations, the general environment, etc. Discussion of specific Bitcoin-related services usually belongs in other sections."

Politics & Society - Discussion about politics, recent event in the world - both related and unrelated to Bitcoin.

What do you all think? Where should this discussion take place?

[Charles-Tim]

It depends on the content of the topic. It can be on bitcoin discussion, speculation, politics & society or gambling discussion board. If it is releated to bitcoin, post it on bitcoin discussion board. If necessary that it should be moved to the appropriate board, it would be moved by a moderator.

[Churchillvv]

I personally get pissed when I see political statements towards bitcoin get too much attention in bitcoin discussion when we all know it's never to the benefit of the bitcoin community, always their selfish interests.

Although sometimes some discussions are more bitcoin related but politically incline so I do get confused too whether it belongs there or not but it's most times up to the mods if they don't find it convincing for bitcoin discussion they would move it.

I voted the politics and society board because from the definition that's where it's best fit.

[Hazink]

If the discussion is entire about his political agenda and vote, I don't think anyone will post it on bitcoin discussion; even if it's posted with the right report to moderator description, it will be moved to politics. 
 
The threads about Trump that I have seen on the bitcoin discussion are talking about his plans and promises to Bitcoin and whether they can be fulfilled or if there are just mere political promises, which I believe as long as Bitcoin is part of the discussion it's okay to say that it's on the right board, although others will argue otherwise. 

[Zaguru12]

If you look at the two boards you highlighted you can see that the discussion can definitely fit into just any of the boards highlighted. There is also related discussion like this that can fit also into speculation board. It depends on the content of the thread like price predictions been speculation Board, news reported been bitcoin discussion board.

Best thing to do is to report the thread when you think it doesn’t fit a particular board and the mods will evaluate it

[Charles-Tim]

Sorry for this off-topic discussion.

I personally get pissed when I see political statements towards bitcoin get too much attention in bitcoin discussion when we all know it's never to the benefit of the bitcoin community, always their selfish interests.

If presidential candidates are using bitcoin to campaign, did you know what it means? You are right that it can be for their selfish interests, but using bitcoin to campaign out of all the currencies in this world means something about bitcoin.

[virasog]

Hi everyone,

I hope you're all doing well. I've noticed that the "Bitcoin Discussion" board is currently filled with discussions about the US Presidential 2024 election. I'm unsure whether a Bitcoin-related US Presidential 2024 discussion would fit better in the "Bitcoin Discussion" board or the "Politics & Society" board. Here are the definitions provided by our moderator, mprep:

Bitcoin Discussion - "General discussion about the Bitcoin ecosystem that doesn't fit better elsewhere. News, the Bitcoin community, innovations, the general environment, etc. Discussion of specific Bitcoin-related services usually belongs in other sections."

Politics & Society - Discussion about politics, recent event in the world - both related and unrelated to Bitcoin.

What do you all think? Where should this discussion take place?

Some of these discussions also take place on gambling discussion board too .  If you want to discuss on betting on the US Presidential elections, that is the place.

I think we need to see in which context the discussion is taking place. If it is purely about the elections, it should be in the Politics & Society section but if the discussion is about the speculation of bitcoin price concerning the result of the election, that can be discussed in the Speculation section. Even some topics may fit in the Bitcoin discussion board too.

We cannot say that the US election can fit only in one board. It can fit in multiple boards too.  

[LTU_btc]

Many people are trying to find connection between Bitcoin and Trump because he said something about  Bitcoin in elections campaign. Probably such topics have right to be in Bitcoin Discussion, though Politics and society is more appropriate place for it.
And I wouldn't get hyped about it much - he just said what people want to hear, politicians do that. Remember what he said about BTC when he was president, his words were opposite completely.

[Die_empty]

What do you all think? Where should this discussion take place?

I am not sure we had so many topics about Bitcoin and the US elections four years ago. The only reason why this issue is now a hot topic in Bitcoin discussion is because Trump has chosen Bitcoin as one of his campaign agendas. All the topics about the US elections that are in the Bitcoin discussion thread deserve to be there because of their content. They contain some campaign promises that will affect the Bitcoin market, so they should be discussed in that board.

Others that relate to just politics are rightly posted or moved to politics and society boards. If you check the Politics and Society board you will also observe that it still contains many topics about Trump and the US elections. Any post that doesn't deserve to be in Bitcoin discussion will be reported and moved to the appropriate board by moderators.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If it is releated to bitcoin, post it on bitcoin discussion board. If necessary that it should be moved to the appropriate board, it would be moved by a moderator.

And I suppose as long as the topic isn't too heavily weighted toward politics that the context of bitcoin becomes lost in the discussion--which it frequently does.  Honestly, I'm leaning toward putting all the political chit-chat in P&S rather than Bitcoin Discussion.  And besides, I suspect most of it will die down once November has come and gone (I hope, I hope).  It's tiring on the eyes seeing so many threads about Trump and bitcoin or democrats and bitcoin or whatever.

I am not sure we had so many topics about Bitcoin and the US elections four years ago.

Pretty sure we didn't, but that was because Biden wasn't in office and the US government didn't have crypto in their crosshairs as much as they do now.  This upcoming election is a pretty important one.

[Richbased]

What do you all think? Where should this discussion take place?

Just like @mprep stated and I quote that discussion about politics suits well in the Politics and Society section of the forum both those related to Bitcoin and those not related to Bitcoin so it is, so don't know why people are flooding the Bitcoin discussions board with numerous Posts about the upcoming United States elections even if some of the events are Bitcoin related but it doesn't make so much sense at all. The politics and Society section is for discussion about happenings across the globe especially the ones about politics and the lifestyle of people in the society so even if there are some touch of Bitcoin related matters, it shouldn't belong to the Bitcoin discussions board as it is "strictly" for Bitcoin discussions and should not be mixed up with some political discussions.

However, if it involves a poll or a bet about the United States elections then it should be channeled to the Gambling discussion board.

Politics & Society - Discussion about politics, recent event in the world - both related and unrelated to Bitcoin.

[Plaguedeath]

Just like @mprep stated and I quote that discussion about politics suits well in the Politics and Society section of the forum both those related to Bitcoin and those not related to Bitcoin so it is

It means no one reported the thread.

I've report 10 thread in Bitcoin Discussion that has "Trump" words on the title, if it's not moved to Politics, it means the that explanation is already outdated.

Just like users who commit plagiarism for multiple times, but they didn't get banned till now.

[Upgrade00]

Besides the obvious problem of where is best to have those posts, there needs to be more moderation on how many of those posts we can have. At this moment there are about 6 threads on the first page of Bitcoin discussion about Trump and 3 best on the second page. All of the discussions are around the same subject, meaning 1 or 2 will suffice to discuss everything related.

I voted Politics and Society because those conversations are about Bitcoin in politics and politicians talking about it, making it more of a political matter.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Remember that boom with Elon Musk topics? Everything is repeating itself. Will anyone deceive themselves by saying that all the topics about Trump are created with different news? All the topics are the same. The idea is the same: there is a person whose opinion is listened to by many, and until the elections happen, for every sneeze he makes about Bitcoin, people will create topics everywhere, in any section. But what then? Remember that many people are tired of Elon topics; the same will happen with Trump topics. And as long as people are willing to discuss the same thing, such topics will be popular.

[dkbit98]

I think there is Politics board and you can also use Gambling board if you want to speculate or bet on winners of this any any other elections.
I am not really interested in that distraction circus, because it doesn't have to do anything with bitcoin or bitcointalk forum, so I won't waste my time on that subject.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

To me this is more of a politics and society discussions even though it includes something to have to discuss about bitcoin, but trump himself is not making an official stand of his choice for choosing bitcoin in cryptocurrency or if he will adopt bitcoin or not after his presidential race has been fulfilled, we ought to have seen US as the region with the most adoption of bitcoin in the world but reverse is the case, i will support either politics and society board or should remained on bitcoin discussion board till after the election.

[hilariousandco]

I guess they can go in either. If it's specifically about bitcoin related political discussion then there's no issue with it being in the main sub, but I guess you can make a case that it can go in politics, but that board is mainly for politics/society as a whole.

[Lucius]

Remember that boom with Elon Musk topics? Everything is repeating itself. Will anyone deceive themselves by saying that all the topics about Trump are created with different news? All the topics are the same.
~snip~

People have obviously not learned anything from the past, because we see how easy it is to manipulate them and convince them of anything - sometimes it seems to me that there are a lot of children on this forum who still believe in fairy tales. Maybe something could have been done in the beginning if such topics were reported as duplicates, or if they were moved to political/off topic board - but now it is a big chaos that mainly serves sig spammers, and unfortunately it will be like this for months to come.

[Franctoshi]

Sorry for this off-topic discussion.

I personally get pissed when I see political statements towards bitcoin get too much attention in bitcoin discussion when we all know it's never to the benefit of the bitcoin community, always their selfish interests.

If presidential candidates are using bitcoin to campaign, did you know what it means? You are right that it can be for their selfish interests, but using bitcoin to campaign out of all the currencies in this world means something about bitcoin.

I agree with you because there are two things involved here, yes a candidate who is looking forward to becoming the president of the united States only ( then selfish interest) but if at all he's truly a Bitcoin enthusiasts and in a case where his presidential ambition would be of beneficial to the crypto industry by looking for a way of becoming the president of united state and in order to implement laws and regulations that will help the crypto community move forward, I don't think it's totally selfish as his becoming the president would make the space become more lively than it used to be.

[ditec_wrogn]

Hey everyone, I've read all of your thoughts on where the Bitcoin-related US Presidential 2024 discussion should take place. I guess there won't be any changes to the board definitions anytime soon, so I hope everyone won't get bored seeing politics outside the Politics & Society board.