COIN MAKERS PRIVATE KEY SHARING THREAD

[krogothmanhattan]

 Since the recent event of people having a hard time reading or deciphering certain private keys, I figure I would give coin makers the chance to share what their private keys will look like once people end up peeling someday.

    Below is a sample of my keys, private keys in qr and text format and the bottom is the public key. Also for some of my coins I have added entire seed as well. The paper used is Terra water proof paper...you can read all about me testing it and others under water for over two years PLUS in the following thread   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5296179.0


              And yes the private keys below are loaded with Bitcoin!  SO go ahead and try to sweep!  

      

[Frank AlpenCoin]

ALPEN COIN

Key: QRcode
Printer: Inkjet
Paper: Series 1: standard paper
           Series 2 and after: Special aqueous inkjet waterproof synthetic paper (120 gsm)

    

    

 
photo: Key Alpen Coin Serie 1

I did different tests similar to those of Krogoth with the waterproof and standard paper, and the QR code was readable.

Nevertheless, I could compare physical bitcoins to works of art or vintage wines. Provenance and preservation play an important role.

[MoparMiningLLC]

for any of the projects I have worked on, from doing DIY coins for people, to the Mojo coins I assisted with, the pepeflyer coins, my pokerchip sets, the amount of coins I have keyed approaches 1700-2000

The process I use is very simple.

I use an airgapped computer that has bitcoin core and the samr7 vanitygen program installed. This system is never online. It is updated with disposable usb drives that are used to install updates and move files to the airgapped system. The usb sticks never go from the airgapped system to an online system and are disposed of after one use. This is done via my fire pit. Periodically, I also replace the harddrive in the airgapped system disposing of the old one via the same burn pit.

I use an old printer that has no wifi or bluetooth capabilities - it is a laser printer and I print on Revlar paper.

I have used text for private keys, qr codes and many times used both text and qr code.

I do not save any files to the airgapped system. Keys are printed and locked in a safe in my office. If the keys are ever out and I leave the room or they leave my sight, they are disposed of and new keys are made.

If anyone ever has an issue with my coins - it will not be because someone is sweeping them. It will be a human error on my part.

Examples:

putting the wrong key on a coin (I have done this once that I know of - customer contacted me, I reimbursed them for the load)
I once put the QR codes backwards - with the private key facing out and the address facing in, when identified, generated new key and address and re-did the coin.

No one is free from making a mistake and there is a huge difference between making a mistake and being malicious when it comes to keys.

Keys should never be saved or stored where someone else can get them.

[hybridsole]

I use an airgapped computer that has bitcoin core and the samr7 vanitygen program installed. This system is never online. It is updated with disposable usb drives that are used to install updates and move files to the airgapped system. The usb sticks never go from the airgapped system to an online system and are disposed of after one use. This is done via my fire pit. Periodically, I also replace the harddrive in the airgapped system disposing of the old one via the same burn pit.

I use an old printer that has no wifi or bluetooth capabilities - it is a laser printer and I print on Revlar paper.

This is precisely the method I use.  A freshly loaded OS that has never connected to the internet, and the wifi drivers disabled (or disabled at the hardware level).  In addition, Samr7's vanitygen has been used for over 12 years and is likely holding billions of dollars worth of bitcoin.  The only thing that could compromise those keys would be a quantum attack or vulnerability in OpenSSL's random number generator.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do it. 


Regarding this topic, it is too bad that TeeGUMES Canary Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290065.0) is no longer updated with working images.  That was such a great resource.  Maybe those pictures could be recovered somehow and all the info merged into this thread? 

[krogoth]

I use an airgapped computer that has bitcoin core and the samr7 vanitygen program installed. This system is never online. It is updated with disposable usb drives that are used to install updates and move files to the airgapped system. The usb sticks never go from the airgapped system to an online system and are disposed of after one use. This is done via my fire pit. Periodically, I also replace the harddrive in the airgapped system disposing of the old one via the same burn pit.

I use an old printer that has no wifi or bluetooth capabilities - it is a laser printer and I print on Revlar paper.

This is precisely the method I use.  A freshly loaded OS that has never connected to the internet, and the wifi drivers disabled (or disabled at the hardware level).  In addition, Samr7's vanitygen has been used for over 12 years and is likely holding billions of dollars worth of bitcoin.  The only thing that could compromise those keys would be a quantum attack or vulnerability in OpenSSL's random number generator.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do it. 


Regarding this topic, it is too bad that TeeGUMES Canary Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290065.0) is no longer updated with working images.  That was such a great resource.  Maybe those pictures could be recovered somehow and all the info merged into this thread? 

  Well I dedicated a thread on how I did all of that here for any people wanting to do it the right way.

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416519.0

   I find removing the wifi board placed my mind at ease

[MoparMiningLLC]

   I find removing the wifi board placed my mind at ease

agreed. it cant accidentally get turned on if it isnt there in the first place.

[owlcatz]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

[DaveF]

I use an airgapped computer that has bitcoin core and the samr7 vanitygen program installed. This system is never online. It is updated with disposable usb drives that are used to install updates and move files to the airgapped system. The usb sticks never go from the airgapped system to an online system and are disposed of after one use. This is done via my fire pit. Periodically, I also replace the harddrive in the airgapped system disposing of the old one via the same burn pit.

I use an old printer that has no wifi or bluetooth capabilities - it is a laser printer and I print on Revlar paper.

This is precisely the method I use.  A freshly loaded OS that has never connected to the internet, and the wifi drivers disabled (or disabled at the hardware level).  In addition, Samr7's vanitygen has been used for over 12 years and is likely holding billions of dollars worth of bitcoin.  The only thing that could compromise those keys would be a quantum attack or vulnerability in OpenSSL's random number generator.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do it. 


Regarding this topic, it is too bad that TeeGUMES Canary Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290065.0) is no longer updated with working images.  That was such a great resource.  Maybe those pictures could be recovered somehow and all the info merged into this thread? 

TryNinja wrote a script that will do that. TeeGUMES would have to run it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452662.0

Also if you hover over the broken images in that post (at least in firefox) you can see the imgur links:

The 1st few in the post you mentioned are
https://imgur.com/3SD2lJt
https://imgur.com/IB1xcq0
https://imgur.com/r9qVSq8
https://imgur.com/3AnLyp7

so the post can be re-recreated with some work.

BUT.....they are not really our images to use without takling to TeeGUMES 1st.

-Dave

[krogoth]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

    With Mycellium entropy I just reset it and it generates new keys. Not sure what you refer to wiping? I don't use any USB flash drives to transport my private keys ...I print all thru the offline printer

[hybridsole]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Hey I remember writing the first draft of that code for BG4.  It was sloppy but got the job done. 

As far as wiping the drive, I prefer a sledgehammer     Low capacity drives are cheap, and it's very satisfying after making a batch of keys. 

[MoparMiningLLC]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

I dont wipe it - I destroy it. drill it, smash it and burn it.

[pinky1234]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Lets talk about Papersafe " aka  BITCOIN SAVING BOND.  I lost 5,000 bit few months back . compromise NEGATIVE.   
this bills come unfunded, I funded with 5000 bit . I try to move it out . since this bill has a scratch off private key , NO F way to scratch i. it suppose to be easy jezzy scratch off.  try slowly using a dime, cent, key , other alternative. hologram scratch off toooo soft. I end up ripping the whole paper including private key . idk how to explain it on details , but it has to do with " GRAY SCRATCH OFF MATERIAL " /  it wont scratch like it suppose to , in order to reveal PK . 

[MoparMiningLLC]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Lets talk about Papersafe " aka  BITCOIN SAVING BOND.  I lost 5,000 bit few months back . compromise NEGATIVE.   
this bills come unfunded, I funded with 5000 bit . I try to move it out . since this bill has a scratch off private key , NO F way to scratch i. it suppose to be easy jezzy scratch off.  try slowly using a dime, cent, key , other alternative. hologram scratch off toooo soft. I end up ripping the whole paper including private key . idk how to explain it on details , but it has to do with " GRAY SCRATCH OFF MATERIAL " /  it wont scratch like it suppose to , in order to reveal PK . 

do you still have this? would you be willing to send to me for to look at?

[pinky1234]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Lets talk about Papersafe " aka  BITCOIN SAVING BOND.  I lost 5,000 bit few months back . compromise NEGATIVE.   
this bills come unfunded, I funded with 5000 bit . I try to move it out . since this bill has a scratch off private key , NO F way to scratch i. it suppose to be easy jezzy scratch off.  try slowly using a dime, cent, key , other alternative. hologram scratch off toooo soft. I end up ripping the whole paper including private key . idk how to explain it on details , but it has to do with " GRAY SCRATCH OFF MATERIAL " /  it wont scratch like it suppose to , in order to reveal PK . 

do you still have this? would you be willing to send to me for to look at?

Yes i do, but the private key its long gone, since when i peeled it peel off completely including the papernote
I will send you some pic . this week 

[MoparMiningLLC]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Lets talk about Papersafe " aka  BITCOIN SAVING BOND.  I lost 5,000 bit few months back . compromise NEGATIVE.   
this bills come unfunded, I funded with 5000 bit . I try to move it out . since this bill has a scratch off private key , NO F way to scratch i. it suppose to be easy jezzy scratch off.  try slowly using a dime, cent, key , other alternative. hologram scratch off toooo soft. I end up ripping the whole paper including private key . idk how to explain it on details , but it has to do with " GRAY SCRATCH OFF MATERIAL " /  it wont scratch like it suppose to , in order to reveal PK . 

do you still have this? would you be willing to send to me for to look at?

Yes i do, but the private key its long gone, since when i peeled it peel off completely including the papernote
I will send you some pic . this week 

if you have the peices though I would like to see them still.

[pinky1234]

Hi all, great thread, thanks a lot!

Question, just thinking about it (No I do not make keys, but did help BG4 with his node.js code on the 2.0 release of his Papersafe software for the Bitcoin Bonds, so not a stranger to vanitygen etc) - How do you all wipe your drive/usb/whatever you create keys on? DBAN or something?

Thanks!

Lets talk about Papersafe " aka  BITCOIN SAVING BOND.  I lost 5,000 bit few months back . compromise NEGATIVE.   
this bills come unfunded, I funded with 5000 bit . I try to move it out . since this bill has a scratch off private key , NO F way to scratch i. it suppose to be easy jezzy scratch off.  try slowly using a dime, cent, key , other alternative. hologram scratch off toooo soft. I end up ripping the whole paper including private key . idk how to explain it on details , but it has to do with " GRAY SCRATCH OFF MATERIAL " /  it wont scratch like it suppose to , in order to reveal PK . 

do you still have this? would you be willing to send to me for to look at?

Yes i do, but the private key its long gone, since when i peeled it peel off completely including the papernote
I will send you some pic . this week 

if you have the peices though I would like to see them still.

sure, will do so. 

If anyone has a papersafe" bitcoin saving bond to spare,  try to redeem it. even thought that its not funded. just wanaa make sure . that i am the only one affected. 

[DaveF]

If anyone has a papersafe" bitcoin saving bond to spare,  try to redeem it. even thought that its not funded. just wanaa make sure . that i am the only one affected. 

Did you try reaching out to BG4?
Has not posted but he has been online in the past couple of days.

He might want to comment on this.

-Dave

[pinky1234]

If anyone has a papersafe" bitcoin saving bond to spare,  try to redeem it. even thought that its not funded. just wanaa make sure . that i am the only one affected. 

Did you try reaching out to BG4?
Has not posted but he has been online in the past couple of days.

He might want to comment on this.

-Dave

NOt yet, More info will be given soon, once i send MOpar Screenshot . thanks Dave 

[Hox]

Here's the procedure and code I use for all Coin.Community keys: https://wiki.coin.community/Coin.Community_-_Address_Generation

[DaveF]

If anyone has a papersafe" bitcoin saving bond to spare,  try to redeem it. even thought that its not funded. just wanaa make sure . that i am the only one affected. 

Was this the style of the one you had?



I think I have another one someplace, if I can find the 2nd one I'll scratch it off if its the same as yours.

-Dave