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August 10, 2024, 03:10:21 PM |
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Dear JamesNZ,
I was utterly appalled to read your post, which is riddled with misinformation and a complete lack of understanding about cryptocurrencies. Your blatant bias against this emerging technology and your failure to grasp its fundamental principles are both disappointing and unacceptable.
First, your claim that it is impossible to invest in cryptocurrencies is not only false but also demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what cryptocurrencies are and how they work. Cryptocurrencies are digital assets that can be bought, sold, and traded on various platforms, just like stocks, real estate, and other investment instruments. They have value because people are willing to buy and use them, and their value can fluctuate based on market demand and other factors.
Furthermore, your argument that cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments because they do not generate revenue or equity is misguided and shows a lack of basic financial knowledge. Many investment instruments, such as gold and other precious metals, do not generate revenue or equity either, but they are still considered legitimate investment opportunities.
Your explanation of the sources of profit for stocks, real estate, and fiat currencies is also flawed and demonstrates a lack of understanding of basic economics. You claim that the source of profit for fiat currencies is debt, but this is only partially true. The value of fiat currencies is determined by a variety of factors, including government policies, economic indicators, and market demand.
Your description of cryptocurrencies as "numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes" is not only inaccurate but also offensive to the many legitimate projects and communities in the cryptocurrency space. Cryptocurrencies are built on blockchain technology, which is typically a decentralized and transparent ledger system that enables secure and transparent transactions. This means that the transaction data is usually distributed across a network of computers, rather than being controlled by a single entity, and that anyone can view the transaction history on the blockchain. However, it's important to note that while blockchain technology is often decentralized and transparent, there are some exceptions. For example, some private blockchains are centralized and not open to the public. However, in the context of cryptocurrencies, public blockchains are the norm.
Your argument that the 21 million limit on Bitcoin is arbitrary and meaningless is also incorrect. While it is true that the limit is an arbitrary number, it is a fundamental aspect of Bitcoin's design and is intended to prevent inflation and maintain the currency's value over time. However, it's important to note that many aspects of Bitcoin's design, such as the block size limit and the mining reward schedule, are also arbitrary and have been the subject of debate within the community.
In short, your post is a disgraceful display of ignorance and misinformation about cryptocurrencies. I strongly urge you to educate yourself on this topic and approach it with an open mind, rather than perpetuating harmful stereotypes and misconceptions.
Your cannot change the reality by denying it, by crying and wining, by using loaded language, and by misrepresenting my description of that reality. I understand that you're frustrated because my post demonstratrd that you are a participant of a pyramid-like scheme and not an investor. But your response is pretty hilarious and pathetic. Try to accept reality instead of writing nonsensical walls of text. Dear JamesNZ, Your response is nothing but a pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact that you have been proven wrong. You have resorted to personal attacks and baseless assumptions, rather than addressing the factual inaccuracies in your original post. Furthermore, your accusation that I write "nonsensical walls of text" is not only false but also unfounded. I provided a well-reasoned and factual argument that challenges your misconceptions about cryptocurrencies. If you are unable to comprehend or refute my argument, that is not my problem. I will not tolerate your condescending and dismissive attitude. If you continue to make false accusations and personal attacks, I will have no choice but to report you to the moderators.
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JamesNZ (OP)
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August 10, 2024, 04:22:15 PM |
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Dear JamesNZ,
I was utterly appalled to read your post, which is riddled with misinformation and a complete lack of understanding about cryptocurrencies. Your blatant bias against this emerging technology and your failure to grasp its fundamental principles are both disappointing and unacceptable.
First, your claim that it is impossible to invest in cryptocurrencies is not only false but also demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what cryptocurrencies are and how they work. Cryptocurrencies are digital assets that can be bought, sold, and traded on various platforms, just like stocks, real estate, and other investment instruments. They have value because people are willing to buy and use them, and their value can fluctuate based on market demand and other factors.
Furthermore, your argument that cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments because they do not generate revenue or equity is misguided and shows a lack of basic financial knowledge. Many investment instruments, such as gold and other precious metals, do not generate revenue or equity either, but they are still considered legitimate investment opportunities.
Your explanation of the sources of profit for stocks, real estate, and fiat currencies is also flawed and demonstrates a lack of understanding of basic economics. You claim that the source of profit for fiat currencies is debt, but this is only partially true. The value of fiat currencies is determined by a variety of factors, including government policies, economic indicators, and market demand.
Your description of cryptocurrencies as "numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes" is not only inaccurate but also offensive to the many legitimate projects and communities in the cryptocurrency space. Cryptocurrencies are built on blockchain technology, which is typically a decentralized and transparent ledger system that enables secure and transparent transactions. This means that the transaction data is usually distributed across a network of computers, rather than being controlled by a single entity, and that anyone can view the transaction history on the blockchain. However, it's important to note that while blockchain technology is often decentralized and transparent, there are some exceptions. For example, some private blockchains are centralized and not open to the public. However, in the context of cryptocurrencies, public blockchains are the norm.
Your argument that the 21 million limit on Bitcoin is arbitrary and meaningless is also incorrect. While it is true that the limit is an arbitrary number, it is a fundamental aspect of Bitcoin's design and is intended to prevent inflation and maintain the currency's value over time. However, it's important to note that many aspects of Bitcoin's design, such as the block size limit and the mining reward schedule, are also arbitrary and have been the subject of debate within the community.
In short, your post is a disgraceful display of ignorance and misinformation about cryptocurrencies. I strongly urge you to educate yourself on this topic and approach it with an open mind, rather than perpetuating harmful stereotypes and misconceptions.
Your cannot change the reality by denying it, by crying and wining, by using loaded language, and by misrepresenting my description of that reality. I understand that you're frustrated because my post demonstratrd that you are a participant of a pyramid-like scheme and not an investor. But your response is pretty hilarious and pathetic. Try to accept reality instead of writing nonsensical walls of text. Dear JamesNZ, Your response is nothing but a pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact that you have been proven wrong. You have resorted to personal attacks and baseless assumptions, rather than addressing the factual inaccuracies in your original post. Furthermore, your accusation that I write "nonsensical walls of text" is not only false but also unfounded. I provided a well-reasoned and factual argument that challenges your misconceptions about cryptocurrencies. If you are unable to comprehend or refute my argument, that is not my problem. I will not tolerate your condescending and dismissive attitude. If you continue to make false accusations and personal attacks, I will have no choice but to report you to the moderators. You need a medical help.
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ditec_wrogn
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August 10, 2024, 04:34:34 PM |
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Dear JamesNZ,
I was utterly appalled to read your post, which is riddled with misinformation and a complete lack of understanding about cryptocurrencies. Your blatant bias against this emerging technology and your failure to grasp its fundamental principles are both disappointing and unacceptable.
First, your claim that it is impossible to invest in cryptocurrencies is not only false but also demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what cryptocurrencies are and how they work. Cryptocurrencies are digital assets that can be bought, sold, and traded on various platforms, just like stocks, real estate, and other investment instruments. They have value because people are willing to buy and use them, and their value can fluctuate based on market demand and other factors.
Furthermore, your argument that cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments because they do not generate revenue or equity is misguided and shows a lack of basic financial knowledge. Many investment instruments, such as gold and other precious metals, do not generate revenue or equity either, but they are still considered legitimate investment opportunities.
Your explanation of the sources of profit for stocks, real estate, and fiat currencies is also flawed and demonstrates a lack of understanding of basic economics. You claim that the source of profit for fiat currencies is debt, but this is only partially true. The value of fiat currencies is determined by a variety of factors, including government policies, economic indicators, and market demand.
Your description of cryptocurrencies as "numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes" is not only inaccurate but also offensive to the many legitimate projects and communities in the cryptocurrency space. Cryptocurrencies are built on blockchain technology, which is typically a decentralized and transparent ledger system that enables secure and transparent transactions. This means that the transaction data is usually distributed across a network of computers, rather than being controlled by a single entity, and that anyone can view the transaction history on the blockchain. However, it's important to note that while blockchain technology is often decentralized and transparent, there are some exceptions. For example, some private blockchains are centralized and not open to the public. However, in the context of cryptocurrencies, public blockchains are the norm.
Your argument that the 21 million limit on Bitcoin is arbitrary and meaningless is also incorrect. While it is true that the limit is an arbitrary number, it is a fundamental aspect of Bitcoin's design and is intended to prevent inflation and maintain the currency's value over time. However, it's important to note that many aspects of Bitcoin's design, such as the block size limit and the mining reward schedule, are also arbitrary and have been the subject of debate within the community.
In short, your post is a disgraceful display of ignorance and misinformation about cryptocurrencies. I strongly urge you to educate yourself on this topic and approach it with an open mind, rather than perpetuating harmful stereotypes and misconceptions.
Your cannot change the reality by denying it, by crying and wining, by using loaded language, and by misrepresenting my description of that reality. I understand that you're frustrated because my post demonstratrd that you are a participant of a pyramid-like scheme and not an investor. But your response is pretty hilarious and pathetic. Try to accept reality instead of writing nonsensical walls of text. Dear JamesNZ, Your response is nothing but a pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact that you have been proven wrong. You have resorted to personal attacks and baseless assumptions, rather than addressing the factual inaccuracies in your original post. Furthermore, your accusation that I write "nonsensical walls of text" is not only false but also unfounded. I provided a well-reasoned and factual argument that challenges your misconceptions about cryptocurrencies. If you are unable to comprehend or refute my argument, that is not my problem. I will not tolerate your condescending and dismissive attitude. If you continue to make false accusations and personal attacks, I will have no choice but to report you to the moderators. You need a medical help. Dear JamesNZ, You have reached a new low with your latest response. Accusing me of needing medical help is not only offensive, but it also shows a complete lack of respect for mental health issues. I have had enough of your bullshit. You have made false accusations, resorted to personal attacks, and now you are trying to belittle me with baseless insults. Fuck you and your condescending attitude. You are a fucking idiot who is too stubborn to admit when they are wrong. You are literally the worst kind of person to engage in a discussion with.
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I haven't been paying attention to this thread and I don't know the arguments involved here--and I don't know who is arguing what, and why.
But I know that the poster who says "take your meds" or some similar crap is the same as that person saying, "I lost the argument and I have nothing more intelligent to say".
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August 10, 2024, 05:16:04 PM |
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Dear JamesNZ,
I was utterly appalled to read your post, which is riddled with misinformation and a complete lack of understanding about cryptocurrencies. Your blatant bias against this emerging technology and your failure to grasp its fundamental principles are both disappointing and unacceptable.
First, your claim that it is impossible to invest in cryptocurrencies is not only false but also demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what cryptocurrencies are and how they work. Cryptocurrencies are digital assets that can be bought, sold, and traded on various platforms, just like stocks, real estate, and other investment instruments. They have value because people are willing to buy and use them, and their value can fluctuate based on market demand and other factors.
Furthermore, your argument that cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments because they do not generate revenue or equity is misguided and shows a lack of basic financial knowledge. Many investment instruments, such as gold and other precious metals, do not generate revenue or equity either, but they are still considered legitimate investment opportunities.
Your explanation of the sources of profit for stocks, real estate, and fiat currencies is also flawed and demonstrates a lack of understanding of basic economics. You claim that the source of profit for fiat currencies is debt, but this is only partially true. The value of fiat currencies is determined by a variety of factors, including government policies, economic indicators, and market demand.
Your description of cryptocurrencies as "numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes" is not only inaccurate but also offensive to the many legitimate projects and communities in the cryptocurrency space. Cryptocurrencies are built on blockchain technology, which is typically a decentralized and transparent ledger system that enables secure and transparent transactions. This means that the transaction data is usually distributed across a network of computers, rather than being controlled by a single entity, and that anyone can view the transaction history on the blockchain. However, it's important to note that while blockchain technology is often decentralized and transparent, there are some exceptions. For example, some private blockchains are centralized and not open to the public. However, in the context of cryptocurrencies, public blockchains are the norm.
Your argument that the 21 million limit on Bitcoin is arbitrary and meaningless is also incorrect. While it is true that the limit is an arbitrary number, it is a fundamental aspect of Bitcoin's design and is intended to prevent inflation and maintain the currency's value over time. However, it's important to note that many aspects of Bitcoin's design, such as the block size limit and the mining reward schedule, are also arbitrary and have been the subject of debate within the community.
In short, your post is a disgraceful display of ignorance and misinformation about cryptocurrencies. I strongly urge you to educate yourself on this topic and approach it with an open mind, rather than perpetuating harmful stereotypes and misconceptions.
Your cannot change the reality by denying it, by crying and wining, by using loaded language, and by misrepresenting my description of that reality. I understand that you're frustrated because my post demonstratrd that you are a participant of a pyramid-like scheme and not an investor. But your response is pretty hilarious and pathetic. Try to accept reality instead of writing nonsensical walls of text. Dear JamesNZ, Your response is nothing but a pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact that you have been proven wrong. You have resorted to personal attacks and baseless assumptions, rather than addressing the factual inaccuracies in your original post. Furthermore, your accusation that I write "nonsensical walls of text" is not only false but also unfounded. I provided a well-reasoned and factual argument that challenges your misconceptions about cryptocurrencies. If you are unable to comprehend or refute my argument, that is not my problem. I will not tolerate your condescending and dismissive attitude. If you continue to make false accusations and personal attacks, I will have no choice but to report you to the moderators. You need a medical help. Dear JamesNZ, You have reached a new low with your latest response. Accusing me of needing medical help is not only offensive, but it also shows a complete lack of respect for mental health issues. I have had enough of your bullshit. You have made false accusations, resorted to personal attacks, and now you are trying to belittle me with baseless insults. Fuck you and your condescending attitude. You are a fucking idiot who is too stubborn to admit when they are wrong. You are literally the worst kind of person to engage in a discussion with. You can think or say whatever you want. I literally do not care. The whole OP boils down to a simple fact that the Bitcoin system has no source from which investors could profit. While traditional investment instruments do. You're mad because of that fact and that's why you created that nonsensical wall of text. In the last 20 years I have had thousands of discussions about various topics. I know very well how people like you function. I simply do not want to waste my time on you.
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August 12, 2024, 04:30:56 PM Last edit: August 16, 2024, 12:53:16 PM by SemiSharma |
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A lot of people who have anything to do with crypto think about it as an investment. They want to sell it when it costs more. It's a way to make a profit. It's not easy, I know, but you can follow the crypto news and make sure to buy and sell your coins at the right time.
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August 13, 2024, 06:07:06 AM |
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With cryptocurrencies, there is no source of profit. That is, there is no business activity, equity, intrinsic value or debt to invest in and from which investors could profit. In other words, cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments or anything related to money, finance and economy. Instead, they are numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes. The source of profit for cryptocurrencies is buying low and selling high(which is the bull tactic), there's also the bear tactic- selling high and buying low. The bull and bear tactic are applied by the traders on all financial markets-stocks, commodities, FOREX, etc. You can call it a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme, I don't care. If buying low and selling high is a pyramid scheme, then all the financial markets around the world(stocks, bonds, commodities, FOREX, etc.) are pyramid schemes. You might be right about this. Financial capitalism is a pyramid scheme. Crypto is no different than the traditional "casino capitalism", which was invented years before Bitcoin.
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August 13, 2024, 10:22:00 AM Last edit: August 13, 2024, 10:49:13 AM by JamesNZ |
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With cryptocurrencies, there is no source of profit. That is, there is no business activity, equity, intrinsic value or debt to invest in and from which investors could profit. In other words, cryptocurrencies are not investment instruments or anything related to money, finance and economy. Instead, they are numerical records of participation in pyramid-like schemes. The source of profit for cryptocurrencies is buying low and selling high(which is the bull tactic), there's also the bear tactic- selling high and buying low. The bull and bear tactic are applied by the traders on all financial markets-stocks, commodities, FOREX, etc. You can call it a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme, I don't care. If buying low and selling high is a pyramid scheme, then all the financial markets around the world(stocks, bonds, commodities, FOREX, etc.) are pyramid schemes. You might be right about this. Financial capitalism is a pyramid scheme. Crypto is no different than the traditional "casino capitalism", which was invented years before Bitcoin. That's not a source of profit. That's what one scheme participant gave to another. If Bob givs $60K to Alice that didn't came from a resource inside the Bitcoin system. That came from Bob's pocket. There's nothing within the system for Alice to profit from. The system just increased the number associated with Bob's address by 1 and decreased the number associated with Alice's address by 1. Hence, what the system does in recording the operation of a pyramid-style scheme and storing the record in the blockchain.
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August 15, 2024, 08:21:35 PM |
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How's gold different? It's simple. Gold is a metal not a numerical record. In gold people profit from its intrinsic value. On the other hand, from a numerical record associated with address of people in the Bitcoin system no one can profit. That record is just a way to track participation in a pyramid scheme. For instance, someone just gave $60,708 to a participant, and the Bitcoin system recorded this numerically, as explained in the opening post. The first person invested in nothing. It just joined the pyramid scheme by giving money to the old scheme participant with the Bitcoin system recording this as +1/-1. +1/-1 is in no way comparable to gold.
I wanted to reply to you for a few days now, but I keep forgetting. Gold is indeed a metal, but its value isn't exactly determined by its rarity because it's not the most rare metal. Its value is determined by depend and supply and based on people who want shiny gold stuff, a mentality built into the capitalistic system for decades now. See extravagantly expensive engagement rings, the most expensive the ring, the bigger the love, Valentine's Day, etc. are only a few examples that the gold industry has pushed to be portrayed as normal and expected from people. Their major difference is that gold is tangible, while bitcoin isn't. That doesn't change the fact that its value is determined by demand and its limited supply, and as you've already noticed, investors have a different opinion than yours in order to determine that it's actually worth $60,000 as we speak.
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