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August 14, 2024, 10:37:32 PM
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I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.

The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny  the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

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August 14, 2024, 10:49:26 PM
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
For fame maybe, they want to be the one who finally unravels Satoshi's identity, but we very well know how it will end, in nothingness. I don't really care what one investigative journalist or the other does, they are free to see if they will find something, which they won't, but what i do not like is when true bitcoiners engage themselves openly in also trying to unravel Satoshi's identity, when i see no need for that, they already left us with BTC, better to put that energy in its development.

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August 14, 2024, 11:16:49 PM
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One truth that either gonna hurt or make us happy is that we'll never know who the actual satoshi is. The FBI said the right thing, it's either a group or an individual that we will never know.

I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
He's a journalist and that's part of his investigation to unveil if his efforts are going to be worthwhile. But as we can have that guess, he'll never find the real answer and real satoshi.

The first one that we'll know if satoshi is still alive is us, he'd for sure be back on the forum and have his greetings here for which I doubt will happen.
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August 14, 2024, 11:19:54 PM
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
I think they're doing that to know who's the genius that created Bitcoin when there was nothing like it before. At the same time they might want to get public attention because whoever searches for Satoshi gets attention of the public.

We all know that Satoshi used to be active part of this forum and he/she/they have totally left posting in 2010 and that's all we know. There's no need to know more about him/her/them because the product of Satoshi aka Bitcoin is still with us and has made many of us financially stable. Thanks to Satoshi for creating Bitcoin!

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August 14, 2024, 11:22:14 PM
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People have been filing FOIA to FBI since several years ago and maybe some of them appealed as well.

It's safe to assume none of them fared well so I doubt it's gonna be any different this time. I guess even the FBI knows it's a waste of resources as they appear to have only responded now after all these years lol.

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August 15, 2024, 01:41:36 AM
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I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.

The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny  the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.


It’s best if they never find out Satoshis true identity. Definitely best for Satoshi but even more so the maker behind the brilliance surely would be very intriguing to learn the identity or identities and see what they are up to now but we are not meant to find this out I don’t think. I think it will always remain a mystery.

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Your title is bait, they didn't break the silence, they didn't reveal relevant information, and the Satoshi identity is still a mystery for all.

If we discover the reality behind who created bitcoin i don't think that would change much, the engine is already running, and that kind of information is irrelevant on this point. So, trying to find the truth is just a waste of time.

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August 15, 2024, 02:56:03 AM
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
Maybe the reason you mentioned at the beginning is one of the reasons, I mean there are some ignorant people who believe that Bitcoin was created by the federal government or banks so you see some people interested in revealing the truth and revealing the truth about Satoshi to refute this lie.

Despite the absurdity of this lie I have seen many people who believe in the conspiracy theory actually believe that Bitcoin was created by the US government or the hidden government.

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August 15, 2024, 03:39:35 AM
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Your title is bait, they didn't break the silence, they didn't reveal relevant information, and the Satoshi identity is still a mystery for all.

It is false title, and to tell us that bullshit, that the FBI has not said anything about Satoshi's real identity, the best thing he could have done is not to create the thread, or now that he has done it to lock it. If he doesn't this thread may turn into a nice spam mega thread.

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August 15, 2024, 03:50:52 AM
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Your title is bait, they didn't break the silence, they didn't reveal relevant information, and the Satoshi identity is still a mystery for all.

If we discover the reality behind who created bitcoin i don't think that would change much, the engine is already running, and that kind of information is irrelevant on this point. So, trying to find the truth is just a waste of time.
Identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is a myth for all.

Years ago, after Satoshi Nakamoto left the forum and Bitcoin community, Gavin Andresen visit the CIA office to make a speech there, with payment. If he knows identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, CIA already were informed about it many years ago.

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August 15, 2024, 04:41:02 AM
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
Individuals usually do it out of curiosity, but certain people have other motivations. For example take the infamous Craig Scammer Wright. He harassers public figures in bitcoin world to make a name for himself and scam other people.
If Satoshi's identity were known, there is a good chance that he'd be going from court room to court room today as scammers like CSW kept suing him!

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August 15, 2024, 05:08:18 AM
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
The government would be the most interested to know who is the real satoshi. I am sure that they will find ways to make Satoshi somehow responsible and answer to them. Meanwhile some people are just curious. They most likely look up to Satoshi and would want to know their identity. I have seen many dream about meeting Satoshi just to ask him questions.

While others I am sure intend to rob Satoshi one way or the other. I think we as a community should just move on. Not knowing Satoshi does not really make much of a difference anyway.
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August 15, 2024, 05:46:46 AM
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I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.


Expecting the FBI to know who satoshi was is kind of unreasonable. The FBI is involved in solving crimes. Not trying to figure out some anonymous person who chatted on a forum...
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August 15, 2024, 06:00:54 AM
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I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.


Expecting the FBI to know who satoshi was is kind of unreasonable. The FBI is involved in solving crimes. Not trying to figure out some anonymous person who chatted on a forum...

I think I would be interested to know him. Many would be interested to know him especially if they can confiscate his millions of BTC. Just think about a government learns that he is a Russian and that millions of BTC goes to Putin. I think there will be lots of people would sell their BTC. But the same thing happens if the US government confiscates the BTC if they find out Satoshi is actually from NY.

What would happen to the ETFs? If the government plans to make BTC a reserve currency, they have to get millions of BTC or maybe they already have it?

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I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.

The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny  the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

The FBI might be lying about not knowing Satoshi's true identity. This guy is an investigative journalist, his job is to reveal mysteries and find the truth. He shouldn't rely on FBI giving him info for free. He should launch his own investigation and publish the results.
To be honest, I don't care about Satoshi's real identity. Revealing his identity wouldn't change anything in the crypto world at this point.
What if Satoshi isn't a US citizen? The FBI doesn't have jurisdiction outside the USA. Maybe this guy should ask CIA, Interpol or Europol, but Satoshi isn't a spy or a criminal. Grin

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August 15, 2024, 07:53:55 AM
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What do people think they can get out of the FBI about this?

It's incredible how normal people think that the FBI has dossiers on everybody, should be able to unmask the identities of pretty much every person, but in reality they can only work with the data they have available publicly.

Any attempts to guess or infer the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto are merely guesswork based on the above information and therefore not accurate.

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August 15, 2024, 08:01:40 AM
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No one really knows except him and people closely involved.

I really don't care who he is (Developer and cryptographer for sure), I just wish he would appear anonymously again on forum just to express what he thinks about current situation.
Would be fun  Wink
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August 15, 2024, 08:07:23 AM
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People have been filing FOIA to FBI since several years ago and maybe some of them appealed as well.

It's safe to assume none of them fared well so I doubt it's gonna be any different this time. I guess even the FBI knows it's a waste of resources as they appear to have only responded now after all these years lol.
In 2016, Alexander Muse submitted a FOIA request to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Central Intelligence Agency about the identity of Satoshi. Maybe he assumed that these federal agencies would have information about Satoshi. Unfortunately, the responses of these agencies created more confusion than clarification. The quest to unravel the identity of Satoshi is indeed a waste of time and resources.

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August 15, 2024, 08:17:45 AM
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People have been filing FOIA to FBI since several years ago and maybe some of them appealed as well.

It's safe to assume none of them fared well so I doubt it's gonna be any different this time. I guess even the FBI knows it's a waste of resources as they appear to have only responded now after all these years lol.
In 2016, Alexander Muse submitted a FOIA request to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Central Intelligence Agency about the identity of Satoshi. Maybe he assumed that these federal agencies would have information about Satoshi. Unfortunately, the responses of these agencies created more confusion than clarification. The quest to unravel the identity of Satoshi is indeed a waste of time and resources.

Some say he worked for the CIA and his contract just ended, if so - asking CIA or FBI is pointless, they will not reveal their secrets to anyone.
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August 15, 2024, 08:52:37 AM
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The quest to unravel the identity of Satoshi is indeed a waste of time and resources.


No offense, but don't you think that this topic is a waste of time and something completely unnecessary? People who persistently want information about people who have done everything to protect their anonymity without doing anything wrong should understand that they are not doing anything good by their actions.

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