FBI's recent response to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto

[Felicity_Tide]

I actually came across this same news 2days back outside the forum, which I read, but later lost interest as it didn't even contain enough information that should have made it a news headline. But it's great you've shared it here to let people air their view.

The FBI dude (Dave Troy) is just saying what is needed to be said. We aren't even sure of the authenticity of his information, because we all are also clueless about the true identity of Satoshi. If tomorrow, he happens to point at some random dude, calling him Satoshi, some will believe, while others won't. Satoshi's identity will continue to remain a mystery.

I just wish he would appear anonymously again on forum just to express what he thinks about current situation.
Would be fun 

If he(Satoshi) also thinks of this fun, I guess he would have stayed initially. The government is not to be played with. What you watch on TV is different from what happens in the inside.

I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

I don't see any problem in that. Since it's their job, and not mine, then they can do their findings. Morever, they have the time and finance to do that. But we all know what the end results has always been.

[anarkiboy]

If he(Satoshi) also thinks of this fun, I guess he would have stayed initially. The government is not to be played with. What you watch on TV is different from what happens in the inside.

One of the reasons he disappeared could be to make the project more resilient, he was a central figure and this was the Achilles heel of a decentralized project.

I don't watch TV so jokes on YOU!  

...still, would be fun to hear from him 

[KiaKia]

Tell me what the color nothingness looks like without telling me what the color of nothing looks like. 

Best of luck to them, even those pretending to be satoshi years ago are now coming out to reveal that they aren't satoshi, gone are the days where someone will want to steal the identity, today people don't want it, hahahaha.

I've been saying this for a long time Nakamoto planned all these perfectly, he knew how big the trouble would be if he revealed himself, and as for decentralisation to work perfectly he have to hide his identity, isn't that a brilliant idea? He will be shaking right now if he revealed himself, the CIA, FBI, secret service and others will want him.

[anarkiboy]

if he revealed himself, the CIA, FBI, secret service and others will want him.

But why ? he didn't break any laws.

The only people I can think of who would want him are non-government criminals to torture him for Bitcoins.
In the early days he could get in trouble for creating something that is making easier to trade illegal goods.

Back in those days I wouldn't be surprised if he got same sentence as Ross Ulbricht.

[spiker777]

I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.

What does this Dave Troy gave have to do with identity of Satoshi nakomoto or his where about? in my opinion it is quite moronic and also waste of time.. He gave us Bitcoin and Vanished to live his life peacefully. why they just can't accept this and leave satoshi alone.

The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny  the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto.

Basically the same thing we already knew.

[anarkiboy]

He gave us Bitcoin and Vanished to live his life peacefully. why they just can't accept this and leave satoshi alone.

He could as well be assassinated and the last "farewell" post by him was not him but the assassins  

[Smartvirus]

I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

Until you’re thinking at the same wavelength of those who takes pleasure or would gain some satisfaction in these findings, you just might never know. It’s something that could go into history perhaps, having to put a face to the name that has brought about several controversies and eluded even the most intelligent people on the planet with the resources we have.

[anarkiboy]

Leave Satoshi alone!

 

This is the only verifiable picture of Satoshi we have so far:

[kryptqnick]

To be honest, I don't think that FBI should disclose identity of Satoshi even if they know it. That's basic respect for someone's privacy. Satoshi doesn't want to be known, and we must respect that.
I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.

[goldkingcoiner]

I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

For fame maybe, they want to be the one who finally unravels Satoshi's identity, but we very well know how it will end, in nothingness.

I completely agree. This is all about self promotion, and in the case of a Journalist like Dave Troy, I would say he wants to promote his journalism by making it look like he has a big story on the hook.

[hd49728]

Leave Satoshi alone!

Forum has its rule against Doxing and this mean, finding and sharing identity of Satoshi Nakamoto in the forum is against forum rules.
Should speculation about satoshi's identity be subject to doxxing rules?

Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they comply with the following rules:

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1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
<...>

Why aren't they deleted? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

This is the only verifiable picture of Satoshi we have so far:

I don't think that is a good image to share in the forum. It's kind of violent!

[C10H15N]

I don't believe the DEI hires at the FBI have the ability to locate stink on 💩

Let's just say confidence in their abilities is at an all time low and falling like a rock.

[Odohu]

I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy,  filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.

The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny  the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

The statement of the FBI is empty and has no value. Maybe they just said so to appear that they are complying with the law but in reality, they are not ready to release such information even though there is a high chance they know Satoshi is. Assuming the authorities do not know, there are countless number of ways they will explore to get that information including interrogating the known people that communicated with Satoshi during the creation and testing phase. They could also explore the registration of the domain to know who registered it, means of payment and so on.

[aylabadia05]

To be honest, I don't think that FBI should disclose identity of Satoshi even if they know it. That's basic respect for someone's privacy. Satoshi doesn't want to be known, and we must respect that.
I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.

Does that mean the FBI will keep their mouth shut and won't release all the information about Satoshi even if they know everything about it?
If the FBI had any information about Satoshi, they would have long ago told him who it was. The problem is, they probably didn't have much information about Satoshi until now and that is the reason why Satoshi has not been revealed so far.

Satoshi (individual or group) is basically not a terrorist whose existence needs to be hunted down. He is the creator of bitcoin who is quite good at protecting his privacy, but one could speculate that bitcoin is a project developed by some agency although there is no proof about it.

[LogitechMouse]

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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

This investigative journalist is asking for information that isn't available anywhere. It isn't available that even the FBI themselves can't confirm who Satoshi is/are.

Why people are putting so much time on this "UNSOLVED MYSTERY"? Maybe they want increase their popularity and knowing that Satoshi has been anonymous for a very long time, they want to know more about his/her/they identity. He's asking for information that no one even knows but Satoshi only. This is absurd if you will ask me because you're asking information about somebody that nobody doesn't even know - not even the FBI. Maybe he can try browsing on the deep web or the dark web. He might find the answers there.

Nevertheless, I wish him good luck, and of course, there will be a time where he will stop asking because nobody knows what Satoshi's identity is.

[348Judah]

Alot of people have been claiming to be Satoshi, some will tell you that they have the identity of Nakamoto with them, but everything will eventually turned a nightmare and fade away over time, the US FBI to some certain extent were seen as those that groom up Satoshi to whom he became because they said that he was ones part of them, the same way we are hearing a lot of controversies as well concerning this same subject matter on the real identity of Satoshi plus his background, but the question remained unanswered because no one can know or give a response to the identity of an anonymous man.

[anarkiboy]

I don't think that is a good image to share in the forum. It's kind of violent!

It may be a violent person but the image alone is not violent at all. So stay calm, everything is OK  

Alot of people have been claiming to be Satoshi ...

Maybe that's the point, WE are Satoshi. Satoshi became decentralized!

I'm Satoshi!

[JunaidAzizi]

Satoshi Nakamoto was a genius, he gave us freedom from the traditional financial system since its inception. Since that time, he has disappeared, and there is not a single clue as to whether he is alive or not. I don't know why they are trying to reveal him to the world; maybe they want to conduct research on him, or perhaps there are some other plans for him. But first, they aim to find any clue that can lead them to him, and that's why they are spreading such news. One thing I can clearly say is that he was a mastermind who defeated the traditional system, and if he doesn't want to be revealed, then I think no one will find him. Maybe he knows the aftermath of his revelation, and that's why he decided to live anonymously. And there may be a possibility that he is online from another account and is observing things.

[Davidvictorson]

I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.

It is that innate desire for humans to uncover something that looks like a mystery. It is just like deep sea exploration, space exploration and all. And the fact is that as long as the identity of Satoshi remains hidden, there would be a person or group of persons out there who would make it their life's mission to uncover this mystery, with or without the help of any government agency. And they will not give up unless there is a reason beyond any doubt for them to. As for me, I don't care who he is. He's created something phenomena and I am appreciative of that and will use it to the best of what it was meant to do.

[coolcoinz]

I feel like there's no good way to handle this, so their best case scenario is to stall.

If they know who that is and reveal it, that person might become a target. They'd also be responsible for a large panic on the market because what if that's someone's neighbor? What if he lived in a country that your country is in conflict with? What if you knew him? It would be a spark that starts a fire.

If they don't know or are unable to track him, this would make people see them as incompetent. It would decrease the respect for the institution. Why tell people you're unable to do something, especially after the recent fiasco of the Secret Service?