What happened to my DT status?

[Vod]

While pulling some information on my status on the forum before and after "the game" it played, I saw this old screenshot:

https://web.archive.org/web/20191106133135/https://bpip.org/

Why wasn't I on DT at the time?   I've never been banned or blacklisted.   I fell off DT1 due to inactivity, but does anyone know why I would fall off DT2 if I have the votes?   As far as I know, one can't.

 

[alani123]

Isn't default trust kinda random in its inclusions? There are eligibility rules but...

There are x eligible users but the DT list Theymos publishes includes 100 lines as per this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330

So if x > 100 there's a chance someone might be off the list for a certain period of time.

Is there any point in this? I can't think of it but probably there must be some thinking behind the decision to make it like that.

[Vod]

Isn't default trust kinda random in its inclusions? There are eligibility rules but...

There are x eligible users but the DT list Theymos publishes includes 100 lines as per this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330

So if x > 100 there's a chance someone might be off the list for a certain period of time.

Is there any point in this? I can't think of it but probably there must be some thinking behind the decision to make it like that.

The DT lottery awards first levels.  It is statistically improbable every single DT1 member distrusted me for that single month.  :/

[PX-Z]

2019 is at least five years ago, i doubt anyone could still remember what really happened. The only most obvious reason is you were outvoted ~ particularly on those month/s.

[SmartGold01]

To me I can't speak much about DT but what I understand within my little understanding is that, if you are a DT and possibly people who voted you turns to DT2 automatically the DT tag would be removed from your profile. But if any of them gets back to DT1 automatically you turns to DT2. However, IICRC, DT are being ration in every two weeks thereabouts. But currently you are a DT1 member



I don't know if this contribute to your question BIG Daddy? Or maybe loyceV can speak more better.

[logfiles]

This was your trust list as of 2nd November 2019

I think the reason was because a couple of DT1 Members excluded you in their trust lists
Here is a summary;

Trust list for: Vod (Trust: +30 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1313 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-11-02_Sat_07.33h)
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~Vod's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. theymos (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (62) 5582 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. btchris (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. cunicula (Trust: +0 / =0 / -7) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Soros Shorts (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. TECSHARE (Trust: +34 / =5 / -1) (502 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. OgNasty (Trust: +64 / =2 / -7) (728 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. bbit (Trust: +0 / =0 / -4) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Anduck (Trust: +19 / =2 / -1) (55 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. eid (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. shitaifan2013 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. cryptohunter (Trust: +1 / =3 / -4) (157 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. defcon23 (Trust: +16 / =4 / -7) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. nomad13666 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. IYFTech (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. microzee (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. Shallow (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. DougB62 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. guigui371 (Trust: neutral) (40 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. ciprian220 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -4) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Tupsu (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. Rmcdermott927 (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1 (-4) 45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. teeGUMES (Trust: +12 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (1) 336 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. cathoderay (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. VytautasK (Trust: +0 / =1 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. bamb (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. xgold (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. eden1 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. tmfp (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 485 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. RentCute.com (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Thule (Trust: +0 / =1 / -13) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. Quickseller (Trust: #  +13 / =3 / -18) (760 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Susi.D (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. CPNpr (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. bill gator (Trust: +16 / =2 / -9) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. .....Really? (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. lobogil (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. megahash (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. Roquene (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. RHavar (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. james.lent (Trust: +0 / =1 / -2) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. Vadi2323 (Trust: +0 / =3 / -1) (118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. lottery248 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. FuckIdolPlus (Trust: +2 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. Skyenet Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. vvasabi (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. resUnioC (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. p3yot33at3r (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. Stroto (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. Tortoise75 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (565 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. lottery248 checkpoint (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. Sell Egift Card (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. Meuh5598i (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. SpectroCoin_support (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -5) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. Johnny00 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. systemist (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. endlasuresh (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. anahata (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. Goran_ (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (2) 776 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. EmmaGene (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. Shah954 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. Steamtyme (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (1319 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. dragonvslinux (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (71 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
64. Ikay Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
65. Angi (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
66. Marrionbitcoin Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
67. Bazinga442 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -7) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. Effekt (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
69. aurorabitcoin.96 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
70. randyboy (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
71. BITpashaCOIN (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
72. jesh2206 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
73. chickinini (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
74. cryptorgasm (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
75. Pablojob (Trust: +0 / =0 / -4) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
76. PiningGarcia (Trust: +0 / =0 / -4) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. PingGermoco (Trust: +0 / =0 / -4) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
78. cryptopov (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
79. poypototoy (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
80. CryptoSparks (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -7) (39 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
81. Zin-Zang (Trust: +0 / =1 / -7) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
82. tokneneng (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
83. xolxol (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -4) (21 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
84. Cryptov8! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
85. H8bussesNbicycles (Trust: +0 / =1 / -12) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
86. ito-marketing (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
87. gwsukabokepjepang (Trust: +0 / =0 / -11) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
88. BetHash (Trust: neutral) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
89. Bitlover10 (Trust: neutral) (101 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[Vod]

I think the reason was because a couple of DT1 Members excluded you in their trust lists

Nope.   Your list shows me at +23 for DT1.  As I said earlier, it is improbable that none of those DT1 members trusted me.   I should never leave DT.  I assume it must be a BPIP bug - it was close to when I owned it. 

[BlackBoss_]

Nope.   Your list shows me at +23 for DT1.  As I said earlier, it is improbable that none of those DT1 members trusted me.   I should never leave DT.  I assume it must be a BPIP bug - it was close to when I owned it. 

If none of DT1 members trust you, you will not be a DT1 members and will never have +23 for your DT trust list. There are DT1 members distrust you and there are other DT1 members trust you, as your trust list shows.

You are chosen by theymos this month and your +23 DT1 means you get support (trust) from many DT1 members too.

[EarnOnVictor]

You should know that DT1 and DT2 statuses are not permanent and they are at the discretion of theymos to act as he pleases. But it might be for reason(s) which includes but may not be limited to your activities on the forum.

If the inactivity could strip you of the DT1, why did you think it can't do the same to DT2?

Besides, my conversation with one of the most reputed members of the forum last year indicates that even the active users still have their DT1 and DT2 being adjusted regularly.

This can only mean that other score sheets exist which are not so plain to many members but might be justified. It might be linked to how you are using the status for the benefit of the forum aside from just staying active.

[NotATether]

The data doesn't add up.

How could you have been off of DT when you had 26 (I think? because 23+3) DT1 inclusions and 3 exclusions? Have you checked on an old copy of your profile from that time period on the wayback machine?

I think it was probably a bug in BPIP, but then again I cannot really comment about this kind of thing because it happened before I was even registered on the forum.

[Vod]

If the inactivity could strip you of the DT1, why did you think it can't do the same to DT2?

Because I understand that inactivity cannot strip you of DT2.    
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=satoshi

[LoyceV]

Maybe it's a bug on BPIP.

From my records: November 2, 2019: DT1 and November 9, 2019: DT2. I see no reason why it would have changed in between.

[Vod]

Maybe it's a bug on BPIP.

From my records: November 2, 2019: DT1 and November 9, 2019: DT2. I see no reason why it would have changed in between.

Yep, I am listed there. 
#56. 30747: Vod (Trust: +27 / =2 / -3) (1315 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Bug on BPIP. 

[FatFork]

Bug on BPIP. 

A manual exclusion perhaps? Who managed BPIP at the time?

[Jet Cash]

Deleted by me.

I misread my trust entries, and I obviously need a coffee. Sorry guys.

[ibminer]

Well, I couldn't really see how a bug would effect only one user here, based on the way the dtview & action=trust;full;dt pages are parsed, I didn't see any reason on why it would not work for only 1 user. I'd imagine the entire DT1 and/or DT2 list having an issue at the time of parsing the pages if there was some sort of bug in the code.

As I started looking at others on the archive'd page, some are explainable on why they didn't show a DT1/2 status, but I ran into EcuaMobi who also does not show any DT status on the page, and I don't really have an explanation for that one either?
I believe he should have had a status at that time also... I haven't ran into others yet, but... *shrug*  I may have to accept this as some odd DT status bug from 2019 that will drive me crazy trying to think about how it could have happened.      

My only guess, assuming no forum-based blacklists/bugs, would be that this was probably related to a bug we encountered back then with SQL locking records/tables while other parsers were attempting to access/update records, which may have created the conditions necessary to not be able to access some rows/profiles that were in use while DT status parsing was happening. Based on the way table joins happened in this process, an inaccessible record may have just dropped out of the query and not have been included, which would have left them with no DT status. I believe it was sometime in 2020 when suchmoon re-worked the locking methodology we were using to correct the intermittent locks.