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Thinking to the future and the fact that many governments are acting more and more like communist dictatorships instead of a democracy I see a possible time coming where they will want to subjugate everyone and dictate every movement and financial transaction in our lives, WEF Klaus Schwab said something along these lines at the beginning of the scamdemic, you will own nothing and be happy about it.
Frankly I dont want to play any part in that kind of society at all.
We need an aternate economy, one that is not controlled by government, not controlled by the Rothchilds banking cartel.
If we stop using "Their" money their nasty little communist games are over.
So, what providers, shops, goods and services do you all currently know of that offer bitcoin as an alternative payment source instead of fiat currency?
Is there a bitcoin services directory?, if not perhaps there's an opportunity to create a yellow pages for bitcoin enabled shops and services.
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https://btcmap.org/ is one I've tried, but there's no listings in my entire region.
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So, what providers, shops, goods and services do you all currently know of that offer bitcoin as an alternative payment source instead of fiat currency?
Is there a bitcoin services directory?, if not perhaps there's an opportunity to create a yellow pages for bitcoin enabled shops and services.
Yes, a lot of these directories already exist, but the main issue is most of them tend to suddenly stop maintaining it after a certain period has passed [if you're looking for a way to profit from it, you're going to be disappointed]. - Here are a few of them:
Note: Some of their listings might be outdated and I prefer not to vouch (DYOR)!
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August 17, 2024, 06:08:13 PM |
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We need an aternate economy, one that is not controlled by government, not controlled by the Rothchilds banking cartel.
Don't think they don't have their big stake in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Blackrock is the part of the problem in the same gang and they are purchasing a bunch of Bitcoin, they own everything, even some countries. So, what providers, shops, goods and services do you all currently know of that offer bitcoin as an alternative payment source instead of fiat currency?
There are websites and services that accept bitcoin right now, you can use spendabit.co to find items you want, or try with cryptwerk.com. Also check out shopinbit.com if you are in EU.
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August 17, 2024, 07:40:09 PM |
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You can always ask around if they take bitcoin. The more people ask the more companies will research bitcoin to satisfy their clients. If you just want to spend bitcoin instead of going through exchange process, send it to companies that sell gift codes. You may find that a store near you accepts bitcoin. For instance I gave my wife some codes to spend in Ikea and they worked very well. Now we have a new desk, lamp, an office chair and a few other gadgets and all the codes are gone ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Give your woman some money and she'll find ways to turn it into goods and services ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 17, 2024, 08:56:27 PM |
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~ Is there a bitcoin services directory?, if not perhaps there's an opportunity to create a yellow pages for bitcoin enabled shops and services.
There is no definitive directory of businesses accepting cryptocurrency that Im aware of. Just fragmented lists and forums where folks share their experiences. Nothing fully comprehensive or up to date. You make a fair point - there is certainly an opportunity here. For example, I know a handful of local online shops that take crypto through localized payment processor. Doubt they pop up on any radar. So a crypto-centric Yellow Pages could prove useful. Gathering that intel systematically to publish in one spot presents challenges however. I suppose an enterprising soul could build a crowdsourced database. Kick things off by listing known examples, then open it up for anyone to add qualifying businesses from their communities. Verification process would need some rigor to keep things legit.
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August 17, 2024, 09:06:24 PM |
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If we stop using "Their" money their nasty little communist games are over.
Can we really stop using fiat entirely? It can be easier to use bitcoins to purchase things like a house, a car, or other properties or equipment, but there are little, petty things that we like to purchase sometimes, and these things may be equivalent to the transaction fees. Will you, as a bitcoin hodler, choose to use your bitcoins in the purchase of these sorts of things simply because a vendor will accept payment in bitcoins? I doubt.
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August 17, 2024, 10:41:50 PM |
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At first before we can purchase goods with bitcoin openly that means bitcoin has been pronounced as a legal tender, because from my understanding, is obvious that if government accepts bitcoin to be use on our daily bases transaction bitcoin will go long way,
Now people uses bitcoin to purchase goods and services but it most be a cordial agreement between the person that punching the goods and the person receiving the payment, before the transaction can be successful, so from my perspective I seen that what is hindering bitcoin not to go far is as results of government, because if bitcoin should approved as a legal tender I think many people will like to use bitcoin for transactions
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If we stop using "Their" money their nasty little communist games are over.
Bitcoin is not going to replace fiat. In as much I agree with the OP’s comment about WEF and their approach to the world. Their end goal is control, they believe they can achieve that by introducing CBDCs to the world. We can preach all we want about the WEF but I doubt that the vast majority of bitcoin hodlers are interested in spending their bitcoins on goods and services. IMO the hierarchy of the way people view Bitcoin is investment > asset > store of value> currency.
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You can always ask around if they take bitcoin. The more people ask the more companies will research bitcoin to satisfy their clients.
yes, when trying to shop for goods or services. we can ask if they accept Bitcoin payments, when more and more people ask about alternative payments, the provider will think about how they can make it easier for clients to make transactions. I even made a transaction like that to buy a PC and several other devices at a store that actually doesn't accept Bitcoin payments. The transaction can happen with some discussion and interest from the seller. that's because the business owner told me, previously several people offered payment with Bitcoin and other crypto but he refused because of his ignorance. but when transacting with me, it seems like he's starting to be interested in Bitcoin. just sharing experiences, just want to show that we can use the Bitcoin we have as an alternative payment with stores around us. although it won't happen in general, there is a big possibility in the future we will see it all for real.
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yes, when trying to shop for goods or services. we can ask if they accept Bitcoin payments, when more and more people ask about alternative payments, the provider will think about how they can make it easier for clients to make transactions.
Like with e-payments that have been becoming more popular with time. Small businesses nowadays have to provide e-payment as one of options for customers if they don't want to lose potential customers. Same with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency payment options now and in future. I even made a transaction like that to buy a PC and several other devices at a store that actually doesn't accept Bitcoin payments. The transaction can happen with some discussion and interest from the seller.
Such deals can be done privately B2C and if Bitcoin, cryptocurrency payments are not legal in your country, there is more reason to do it privately and a business owners will not take risk by providing QR code for Bitcoin receive from customers to public eyes. If you can discuss with them, you can have private deal to purchase their goods and services through Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
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Yes, a lot of these directories already exist, but the main issue is most of them tend to suddenly stop maintaining it after a certain period has passed [if you're looking for a way to profit from it, you're going to be disappointed]. - Here are a few of them:
Note: Some of their listings might be outdated and I prefer not to vouch (DYOR)!
Is this data updated? I remember one time I was traveling and I looked at one of these crypto directory and it told me that there is a store nearby that accepts payment in cryptocurrency in addition to ATM and when I arrived I found that the data had not been updated for months. So these sites are good at adding services but they are bad at verifying them.
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Bitcoin is not going to replace fiat. In as much I agree with the OP’s comment about WEF and their approach to the world. Their end goal is control, they believe they can achieve that by introducing CBDCs to the world. We can preach all we want about the WEF but I doubt that the vast majority of bitcoin hodlers are interested in spending their bitcoins on goods and services. IMO the hierarchy of the way people view Bitcoin is investment > asset > store of value> currency.
The main reason for not spending them is that they are the most valuable. Even if you could, would you spend your Bitcoin holdings and save in fiat currency? The best thing to save for the future is Bitcoin. Is this data updated? I remember one time I was traveling and I looked at one of these crypto directory and it told me that there is a store nearby that accepts payment in cryptocurrency in addition to ATM and when I arrived I found that the data had not been updated for months. So these sites are good at adding services but they are bad at verifying them.
I don't know about those but not even https://coinmap.org/ is accurate.
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If we stop using "Their" money their nasty little communist games are over.
So, what providers, shops, goods and services do you all currently know of that offer bitcoin as an alternative payment source instead of fiat currency?
1.Spending Bitcoin for goods and services is stupid. The smart move is to spend altcoins and stablecoins for goods and services, but the problem is that there aren't many online(or offline) merchants accepting altcoin/stablecoin payments. 2.Cash isn't evil. Cash is still anonymous. What is truly evil is the digital fiat money and the upcoming Central Bank Digital Currencies(or CBDCs). I don't mind spending fiat cash money for goods and services, since their value is going down every month. 3.The Bitcoin/crypto world is becoming more and more compliant with the government regulations. Can you buy BTC without ID verification? It is still possible to buy crypto without KYC, but the fees are higher. Maybe you should switch to using privacy coins like Monero.
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I don't share the op's view of the world turning "communist". I think there is significant authoritarian backlash over the last several years, and that democracy is globally challenged, but that we still live in some of the freest times in human history. In any case, Bitcoin welcomes people of various political standpoints, and it does offer an alternative to the traditional economy. How much you can directly use Bitcoin to buy goods and services depends on your region, but you can Google a map of places accepting Bitcoin (or use some of the links others have provided). Then just visit the places close to you and find out if it's accurate.
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We need an aternate economy, one that is not controlled by government, not controlled by the Rothchilds banking cartel.
The government is currently more interested in Bitcoin than ever before. We saw the approval of Bitcoin Spot ETF and the active integration of Bitcoin in the campaigns of some major politicians. Some politicians are even pushing laws for their country to buy and keep more Bitcoin. The government already had plans to be a key player in the Bitcoin industry. I don't share the op's view of the world turning "communist". I think there is significant authoritarian backlash over the last several years, and that democracy is globally challenged, but that we still live in some of the freest times in human history. In any case, Bitcoin welcomes people of various political standpoints, and it does offer an alternative to the traditional economy. How much you can directly use Bitcoin to buy goods and services depends on your region, but you can Google a map of places accepting Bitcoin (or use some of the links others have provided). Then just visit the places close to you and find out if it's accurate.
. People in advanced nations with a high rate of literacy and advanced technology will be more open to accepting Bitcoin than those from third-world nations. Many businesses accept Bitcoin as payment, and you can easily find them online. I don't think up to three or four businesses are accepting Bitcoin in my city with a population of about 5.5 million people. Thus the rate of Bitcoin adoption is different in diverse region.
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If we stop using "Their" money their nasty little communist games are over.
If only it were that simple. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They have huge resources, influence and media in their hands. If we stop using ...
Who are these " we"? Units against the backdrop of the world population. The masses will " follow" " them". " We" have already lost. So, what providers, shops, goods and services do you all currently know of that offer bitcoin as an alternative payment source instead of fiat currency?
The first thing that comes to mind is the manufacturers of hardware wallets, offering an alternative method of payment in bitcoin app for their products. It would look strange if they didn't have such an opportunity. Is there a bitcoin services directory?, if not perhaps there's an opportunity to create a yellow pages for bitcoin enabled shops and services.
There is one unpleasant nuance when paying for goods and services using bitcoin: in some countries it is not prohibited to own and use bitcoin, but it is prohibited to use it as a means of payment. Therefore, this factor will slow down the adoption of bitcoin by businesses to pay for goods and services.
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Thanks. So many replies here I can't answer them all. Its interesting to see so many opinions, some positive and some negative. But to those who say we've already lost, or there is no communist agenda, pull your head out of your behind. Wake up and smell the coffee before its too late. There is a need for an alternate economy, that much is clear. How that arrives I've no idea and yes as it is today "They" hold all the cards, but the wind is changing. Using BTC as an alternate is a reasonable place to start its infrastructure albeit complex is there and working. Alt-Coins and Shit-Coins just don't cut it. Thanks for the links to BTC enable shops and services, that's more or less where this thread started
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Just paying for my hosting with BTC, that's enough for me. Don't want to spend btc yet but fully support every merchant that accept crypto
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