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August 19, 2024, 10:07:01 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck.
Say that of Casino gambling, I would agree that there seem to be no skill at all, except for games like Poker. When it comes to the bookies, you get the chance to apply your knowledge of the game and team to have the higher edge on the house.
A little greed is what makes people loss in Sports betting. Usually, the odds is another means to guide although, it’s got zero assurances but, most times, lower odds tends to play out. Like over the weekend, the game between Chelsea and Manchester City had certain predictions that would come with little doubt and that was,

In the 1x2 market, it was a 2 or X2 for City. We all know how difficult the Chelsea team have played over the last season and with a new management on board, players need to adjust to a new playing style. All that would take sometime to take effect then, here they were, playing against one of the very best in England.

Those are the skills you need to use in making this predictions.
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August 19, 2024, 11:25:15 AM
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We must have knowledge for the sports before we want to place our bet. If you are not sure with the match, you don't have to place a bet and waits for the next match that you know.
You can not be sure with the match because the match can change any time so what we analyzes can change too. When you want to place a bet, you must analyze and not just predicted the match.
A sports betting needs luck besides of skills so no matters you have a good skills in analyzing, you still needs luck to win. So that is why you must search for the match you know so you can use your skills to analyze that match.

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August 19, 2024, 12:32:52 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

For me, that is what it is; you must know those events, like the best-performing team, player, coach, goalkeeper, and also take note of home advantage, etc. But despite having good skills or knowledge about all that, that doesn't mean you will make accurate predictions all the time. Sports betting requires skill and luck; if you think that it only requires good skill, the day you might predict team A to win team B could be the day team B will not accept defeat from team A, and it could result in a draw game. After making a good prediction, it actually requires luck for the team to play accordingly. 

Everything you said is true, and this is why setting limits on the amount wagered and limiting expectations is something that a gambler needs to implement regardless of where they bet.
Honestly, I have also experienced something unexpected, or I mean a few weeks ago I bet on a football match where before I made a decision I first did an analysis of the two teams that would compete to make sure which one was much better to be chosen.

And I found that team A was far superior to the statistics at that time, they had the performance and depth of players and also with much better tactics, but it turned out that in the end they unexpectedly made a mistake on the field where one of the players was given a red card until finally the match continued unbalanced, in the sense that the ball possession of the wrong team was lost by the opposing team due to a lack of players until finally they lost.
Many people, especially fans and people who bet on that team regretted the incident and of course, inevitably, defeat had to be accepted, meaning there was no luck there.

So that's why I said that limits should always be applied even if you have good skills in analyzing, but of course as you said that doesn't mean we will always be able to win, meaning that victory can only be achieved when a combination of skill and luck occurs.

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August 19, 2024, 02:39:13 PM
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I mean would it matter if Real Madrid's star forward (Ronaldo) was out due to injury when going in to a Classico where Messi and all of Barcelona's starters were healthy, or if Mahomes was out when the Chiefs were in the playoffs up against the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Championship game..how about what team you're betting, they home or away..whats the spread.. and like 10 zillion more things. Knowing all the vital info, analyzing it all, processing..that takes skill. Then knowing like how a teams defensive set up versus a team who runs an offense this way, isn't as effective unless it's against this style of offense etc.  Or when to place a bet, if betting the favorite, doing so early in the week, versus game day..could be advantageous ..so heck yes.
In addition, I would choose a different bookmaker each time, which has a better coefficient than others. For example, I would take about 10 and choose the ones that suit me. Of course, for this we need to spend more time, but every fraction of a tenth percent is important to us, because only those who will use every advantageous moment for a bet will win more than those who will not do this. I would also use different bonuses, but this also costs time and effort, and many players will not do this because they came here to relax.

Well, in general, of course, there are many reasons why we cannot take everything into account and if it suddenly rains, then the teams will start scoring less or more due to various unsuccessful falls or hits on the ball, such things make bets even more unpredictable.

Yeah that's a great point.  I wonder, and maybe you know the answer here..is there any one stop shop websites that can help you determine which bookmaker is best for which bet as you mention?  (if not lets create one and make  tons of money lol).

The bonus stuff etc..good points.

As for rain..I mean checking the forecast is def important ..and if you're placing a bet right b4 game time, you could probably get damn near 100% accuracy that it won't rain (no cloud coverage in sight, can pretty well dial in that it absolutely won't for 2-3 hours, or whatever)..but then you could get a 50/50 day and then it's just a lot of guesswork.. probably a way over thinking type thing too.
I don't consider myself a super professional in betting, but such sites definitely exist and you and I won't be able to earn millions of dollars on this brilliant idea, lol) In general, I definitely saw such an aggregator on a famous eSports site for CS2, but I won't name it and will cut off their names in half so as not to give them free advertising. But of course, this is very convenient for players who want to place a bet. There are also mentions of bonuses with the names of bookmaker sites.


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August 19, 2024, 03:01:06 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
Of course you need to do some research with regards to the particular sport betting for instance in soccer betting knowing details of strong clubs and weaker ones who help in the long run to win betting in EPL it's obvious when you bet Man City to win against a weak team definitely it a sure bet, however the odd would be small compared to other matches, however, to get some reasonable odd you are expected to  add two or three more sure games from other leagues these are some skills required to have an edge over the bookies, though losses are inevitable, however there are options like over 1.5, 2.0 etc goals and both team to score which are also good option but require some research to pick high scoring clubs.

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August 21, 2024, 01:44:12 PM
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So that's why I said that limits should always be applied even if you have good skills in analyzing, but of course as you said that doesn't mean we will always be able to win, meaning that victory can only be achieved when a combination of skill and luck occurs.

Absolutely, I believe that success in soccer doesn't only comes by being so skilled and knowledgeable about every soccer event, it's very necessary to have the skill and knowledge about the soccer but with luck, success can never be archived all the time. It only requires the combination of luck and skill for a gambler to be able to make a repeated success in his bet.

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August 21, 2024, 02:36:57 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Gambling is all about luck especially when it comes to casino games, they have no pattern or strategies that can work, losses can only be minimized by strictly following the rule of risk management. In the aspect of sports betting I can say that there are skills involved that actually has some profitable results but relying on this skills everytime will definitely break your heart. Always know that inspite of how well your predictions or analysis are
Anything can still happen because it's sports.But knowing your way around the market can give you an advantage and help you minimize losses

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August 21, 2024, 02:59:15 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Your question at least makes me ask too, is there really any skill in casino gambling? Because after all, the reality is that you will also never easily win in casino gambling and in fact, some of them also say the house always wins? If so, then skill is not an important factor in gambling, because basically whatever type of gambling you play in reality only requires luck to win and not skill.

Therefore, I personally think it makes no difference whether you gamble in casinos and or gamble on sports because after all, skill only makes it easy for you to make choices. But to win, it basically still requires luck, right.

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August 21, 2024, 03:44:23 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Your question at least makes me ask too, is there really any skill in casino gambling? Because after all, the reality is that you will also never easily win in casino gambling and in fact, some of them also say the house always wins? If so, then skill is not an important factor in gambling, because basically whatever type of gambling you play in reality only requires luck to win and not skill.

Therefore, I personally think it makes no difference whether you gamble in casinos and or gamble on sports because after all, skill only makes it easy for you to make choices. But to win, it basically still requires luck, right.
I would say that gambling is based on luck, which means that even if we analyze and predict a match, if we are not lucky we will not win. In games like slots and others, I think it depends entirely on luck. But in sports betting, at least we can make an analysis of which team will compete. For example, in a football match in the English Premier League, we can see the line-up of players, their solidity and their teamwork. For example, in the Manchester City match vs. a team that has just been promoted to the English Premier League, Ipswich Town for example. Would our minds bet on Ipswich Town? of course not, right? because we see Manchester City as a team with the status of defending champion and they also have good team strength. While we have not been able to fully assess Ipswich Town's performance in the English Premier League. However, luck will work too. That might be a little picture that I can give.

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August 21, 2024, 04:12:05 PM
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gambling is very dependent on luck, especially with some games that only have to click and wait for what happens with the spins that are done like slots, of course this one game is very dependent on luck, many people have strategies in slot gambling with the belief that it is a strategy that can make them win because it is obtained from many sources such as streamers who share their strategies but I think it doesn't have a big effect on the portion of victory that depends on luck.

with sports betting, I think in this one game, skills are needed because with good skills and sufficient knowledge, it is possible to make us win even though the end result still leads to luck, but at least there is a clear strategy that is mastered, unfortunately in sports betting, it is not certain that you can win even though you use the strategy you have based on the skills and knowledge you have.

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August 21, 2024, 06:52:42 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Let's face it, bookmakers are crunching huge amounts of data and evaluating likely odds for every single game that they offer a bet on. They are very good at getting the odds correct on average, however they will occasionally slip up and misprice something. There's also unexpected outcomes and performances by teams or players that will cost them money. Bookmakers are smart enough to know that they don't need to win every single bet, if they even win 60-70% of the bets that they trade with players then they can rake in hundreds of millions a year if they have a big enough audience. As a person betting against them, even if you are winning 51% of the time, with the margins that they include in every bet they are probably still profiting off you.

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August 21, 2024, 08:42:43 PM
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Your question at least makes me ask too, is there really any skill in casino gambling? Because after all, the reality is that you will also never easily win in casino gambling and in fact, some of them also say the house always wins? If so, then skill is not an important factor in gambling, because basically whatever type of gambling you play in reality only requires luck to win and not skill.

Therefore, I personally think it makes no difference whether you gamble in casinos and or gamble on sports because after all, skill only makes it easy for you to make choices. But to win, it basically still requires luck, right.
I believe we're overanalyzing things, and that's not the average gambler's job. Apart from some managerial skills when it comes to budgeting and being in control of your actions, I don't believe gambling requires any solid skills. Sports betting is a little more complicated than the usual casino games, but it's common sense to not place a bet on the team that has proven to not have the best performance in their past few games.

Some people go well beyond and analyze the players, their personal lives, and other incidents that might affect their performance. I don't want to overcomplicate things; I'd just go with what team has historically been better and has had a decent performance in their past few matches.

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This is an interesting question and this question will be asked, in my opinion, many more times. There are two facts that at first glance seem to contradict each other. The first fact is that in sports betting there is a very large element of chance or, as they say, "luck". The second fact tells us that in addition to the random factor, there are also certain patterns by which one can predict the outcome of the game with a fairly high probability. I think that it is precisely such games that professional players use to place bets.
I think you have given the most logical answer to the question instead of many people who believe it is outright luck. There could still be a space for skills in gambling as I have personally seen and tested even though at some point, it became confusing. Just like you mentioned, there are still professionals in gambling and without skills, there is no way to qualify someone as a professional. I have seen some people with outstanding prediction skills just that it sometimes become very difficult to follow them.

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September 04, 2024, 08:51:17 PM
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This is an interesting question and this question will be asked, in my opinion, many more times. There are two facts that at first glance seem to contradict each other. The first fact is that in sports betting there is a very large element of chance or, as they say, "luck". The second fact tells us that in addition to the random factor, there are also certain patterns by which one can predict the outcome of the game with a fairly high probability. I think that it is precisely such games that professional players use to place bets.
I think you have given the most logical answer to the question instead of many people who believe it is outright luck. There could still be a space for skills in gambling as I have personally seen and tested even though at some point, it became confusing. Just like you mentioned, there are still professionals in gambling and without skills, there is no way to qualify someone as a professional. I have seen some people with outstanding prediction skills just that it sometimes become very difficult to follow them.
Doing some research is already a type of skill on which it depends on how well you would really be trying out to accumulate information in between teams or players or on the sports that you are really that betting on. We do know that this is really that truly different when it comes into this aspect if we do tend to make up some comparison into those pure luck games on which we do know that there's no way that you could apply any analysis into it. You would be able to find it for yourself on what are the things that you would really be gonna needing on the moment that you do make out some sports betting on which this isnt something that only pertains about picking up randomly without applying any analysis into it. This is where skills would be that shown or would really be applied. It is really just that people cant consider
it out with those simple or common steps that they are making.

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