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August 18, 2024, 02:17:37 AM
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Sports betting may be a skill-based but the fact that every gambler has no control over the game, still sportsbetting still end up being luck-based, just like majority of the betting games here. That’s why learn to enjoy every bet, because at the end of the day, there’s no assurance that we will win from our bets, because the edge will always be in the house, but at least we get entertained. Professional gamblers or not, we are all susceptible to losses as long as gambling is concern.

But the more you are familiar with the sports, the better is your chance of selecting good odds for your bets. It may be influenced by luck factor, however, if you have the knowledge of the sports you are betting with, you will have the upper hand in which odds are better to bet on.
This is the difference compared to pure luck-based games, as we can use our experience when betting. Although luck is still the thing, our experience helps us decide where to put our bets. This means that we don't just rely solely on luck but also on our instincts and learning. 

That is why I prefer sports betting over other games in the sense that winning is not too far to happen, and aside from that, I enjoy sports, making me familiar with the team. Although I was just wanting to be entertained, I believe choosing the game where you have a bigger chance is ideally the best choice. 


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August 18, 2024, 02:31:31 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

There's fun and excitement in sports betting. If i were to talk about the skill side, there is statistical analysis, knowledge of team dynamics, and forecasting, while passion plays a large role in the unpredictability of sporting outcomes. With so much science and testing involved, exercise remains elusive, meaning that improvement can sometimes be elusive. This can sometimes result in apparent inconsistencies, sometimes in events that is completely out of your control or fluke circumstances. It means counterbalancing knowledge with the acceptance of sheer luck, and this is how one, through balance, can keep expectations at bay to achieve overall improvement in betting.

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August 18, 2024, 02:48:27 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Even outside of the betting environment, the predictability of a sports game is not a certainty until it is over.
Especially when we talk about football, as I talk about it because it is the sport that I know best, I have seen scenarios in which favorite teams lose to others that are far below them technically.
I've also seen games that seemed to be won have a turnaround in the last few minutes of the game.
And fortunately this is not that rare to happen... I say "fortunately" because this is what makes the sport interesting, because if every favorite team wins or every game ends with the best team defining the score of the game, what's the point in that? ?

Unfortunately, for bettors this is terrible, as it breaks all of our planning, but it is certainly much more predictable than non-sports betting.
What I can tell you is... follow your instincts, if you believe that some team or athlete can beat another, even against the odds or statistics, then bet on them.

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August 18, 2024, 02:54:03 AM
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Even you are not the player of the team you can see their skills and game play on the field by observing with their game you can see if they have a potential winning the game. Also today there's a lot of platform giving statistics information of the player and the team who's the underdog, potential winner and possible sure winner of the game.
Basically it's about the statistics of the game. Number never lies but it's sports game just one mistake or two maybe a table turn.

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August 18, 2024, 03:22:18 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
in my opinion all gambling involves luck including gambling that requires skill to do it, and with sports betting that does say it involves skill, luck still plays a role. besides the skills involved in sports betting also involve knowledge, skills and knowledge here can be said to have an influence because when skills and good knowledge can increase the chances of winning but do not eliminate the role of luck.

but there is no very accurate prediction, some say gamblers are skilled but in my opinion that does not mean they are free from luck of course luck still plays a role in this case with those who do it haphazardly or with those who do it carefully. having good skills is not bad, but what must be considered is that no matter how good the skills are, they will not be able to guarantee that victory will continue to be obtained or can win consistently, because the luck that is also involved still applies.

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August 18, 2024, 03:29:06 AM
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This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
There's some level of skill involved with sports betting and it's more than just knowledge between the teams you're betting on. It's easy to rely too much on the information we get and forget about the other missing pieces. For example, you have bettors who consistently aim to beat the closing line and catch the best odds whenever available.

One of the other posts mentioned arbitrage betting, that's another example too but most sportsbooks don't like those kinds of bettors because they continuously win. Regardless of luck having a big part in sports betting some bettors know how to get around it and make a living.

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August 18, 2024, 03:35:30 AM
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If there was assured skills in winning in the prediction gambling games, then there should be a point to say there is a scenario winning assurance but that's an invalid informations because there's no such possibilities.
The only considerate is that experiences could help in choosing potential games to win by analyzing while forecasting the game. But then, winning in gambling is strickly based on luck and not about what we know about gambling that's why our instincts fails us.

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August 18, 2024, 03:36:52 AM
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This is an interesting question and this question will be asked, in my opinion, many more times. There are two facts that at first glance seem to contradict each other. The first fact is that in sports betting there is a very large element of chance or, as they say, "luck". The second fact tells us that in addition to the random factor, there are also certain patterns by which one can predict the outcome of the game with a fairly high probability. I think that it is precisely such games that professional players use to place bets.

 
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August 18, 2024, 04:26:12 AM
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Sports betting may be a skill-based but the fact that every gambler has no control over the game, still sportsbetting still end up being luck-based, just like majority of the betting games here. That’s why learn to enjoy every bet, because at the end of the day, there’s no assurance that we will win from our bets, because the edge will always be in the house, but at least we get entertained. Professional gamblers or not, we are all susceptible to losses as long as gambling is concern.

But the more you are familiar with the sports, the better is your chance of selecting good odds for your bets. It may be influenced by luck factor, however, if you have the knowledge of the sports you are betting with, you will have the upper hand in which odds are better to bet on.
Yeah it increases your betting odds if you know the match and the club and some of the players you know it all takes analysis doesn't it?

Because sports matches are unpredictable, the luck factor will always be there. This is gambling so it will not be separated from luck even if the favorite team against the underdog team is far different sometimes we see different results.

I believe that sports betting requires skill even if it's just the little you have knowledge of.

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I mean in comparison to just slots/dice? Definitely. This doesn't mean that there's no variance of luck though. Or more specifically, that the result of the game depends on you, definitely not no no. It still ultimately depends on the player themselves, which is not you, aka outside of your "skills" involved when deciding the bet, hence why it's still somewhat luck-dependent. I mean you can imagine how skill-based games like say, basketball, tennis, football, stuff like that have some luck involved at some minimal as well, what more with us who are just betting on these people involved in the game itself.

Though I guess calling it "luck" is weird since it's ultimately their skill but hey, at the end of the day it's something OUTSIDE of what we can control, so regardless of whether it was actually just their skill or plain luck, it's still something that is outside of that regular skillset gamblers can use.

 
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Yes, there is. What they don't tell you is that only a minority of bettors achieve positive results consistently and in the long term, and that it is a process that requires effort, dedication and study, as well as banrkoll control and other psychological aspects.

Besides, I am not a bettor myself, but according to what I have heard it is becoming more and more difficult because the bookmakers are adjusting the odds better and better. You compete against statistical programs of the houses, not humans, and that is very difficult to beat.

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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
The best skill you can have in sport betting or even any gambling form is called experience. Most people think that because Mr A is doing great in making profit from his gambling then he might understand it very well or something similar. But then, Mr A might have been gambling for a far long time and understand when to place his bets, the odds of the game and the power of the team he is betting on. So it doesn't necessarily mean there's a super skill to place bets in games but your own experience and strategy put together will make your wins.

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August 18, 2024, 08:02:39 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

There is a lot of room for skill in sport betting.You only have not to play the major leagues like the 5 top major European Leagues of football which almost never come as predicted,being it money line,asian handicap or even with over/under type of bets.Let me make you an example,if you played the English Premier League with goals and not over 2.5 but just over 1.5 or over 2 yesterday I lost because of Newcastle,normally the skill in predicting how many goals would be scored in that game surely would lead to think that would be more than 2 goals and in fact the game ended 1-0 for Newcastle.When I saw the stats,I saw 6 goalkeeper saves from Newcastle which was the reason the game ended with just one goal,so skill is truly relevant in here but also luck like those 6 saves makes an impact here.

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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
Undoubtedly, the ability to analyze and predict the outcome of upcoming sports events for betting is an invaluable skill, but these skills at the master level can't be possessed by everyone that affects the results of bets. If your bets turned out to be losing, it means that your analytical skills were worthless, and not that there is no mastery in sports betting. Also, one should not write off the "chance factor", without which no sports event is possible, because on the sports field many unforeseen events are possible, depending (or not depending) on ​​weather conditions and the human factor, even banal sports equipment and accessories.
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August 18, 2024, 08:15:54 AM
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This thread sounds pretty much like the OP is incapable of sports betting in a profitable way.

There is a lot of room for skill in sport betting.You only have not to play the major leagues like the 5 top major European Leagues of football which almost never come as predicted,being it money line,asian handicap or even with over/under type of bets.

At least a few years ago the money was in the lesser known or secondary competitions and leagues, where the bookmakers did not adjust the odds well, although I don't know if this is still the case today.

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August 18, 2024, 08:46:39 AM
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Well, the oddsmakers always make sure that we will be confused with our picks.

They sometimes put a trap there which will make us think that the winner is the favorite but sometimes it's not. It's not skill-based gambling, it's more about making the effort to dive into more information to enhance your winning chance.
And even those who think they did everything to lower the risk they will take by getting all the information they need can lose. Plus, you cannot be emotional or a fan of a team because that could also affect your decisions.
I think we also need a bit of luck when it comes to sports betting and we cannot be greedy to take the higher multiplier and expect to win the bet.

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August 18, 2024, 11:39:01 AM
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This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck.
It is a luck-based game, according to classification, but there is skill and experience in sports betting that only people who have been betting for so long have.

The experience of gambling will help you decipher which games to avoid and which games to play, as well as the best choices for a bet. You know that there are many options in sports betting aside from straight wins or losses. Experienced sports bettors always have an edge.
What definition classify sports betting as luck-based game? I think you are getting me confused because if you call sports betting luck-based, what will you call Dice and Slot? Knowlege of the teams, the coach and even the fitness of individual player can help a gambler in making selection and I consider this skill. If it were entirely luck, I do not think we would have the numerous predicting websites out there that offer both paid and free services. It is the rate at which these predictions fails that is making me to doubt if skill is enough

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August 18, 2024, 11:58:15 AM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .
The sequence can be determined only after a huge sample, or rather the number of bets we made. I don't know exactly how many, but the order can vary around 10 thousand or more. This will take several years and a thorough analysis of our win rate and EV. If we touch on online poker, when I played there was a computer program that many knew, it showed how many hands I played my win rate in different positions at the table. Of course, with sports betting such subtle things are not needed, but the analysis must be complete. In short, this will allow us to learn about our skills, but despite the huge distance of the game, there is still dispersion, which prevents us from determining the true values ​​of our game.

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August 18, 2024, 12:01:25 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

Skills? Yes a little percentage of it needs since you need to understand well the odds and have mathematical skills to possibly get higher chance to win. But also the most important factor is familiarity of the sports or league since if we have all of those attributes then provably that we could provably in winning side.

Although there's always no guarantee but if we are familiar on things that we do then winning will follow.

I hear someone saying this is also based on luck since maybe they are just guessing on which teams have high chance to win. But if they dig up more information and try to seek reliable information about team stats and situations maybe with those things they can increase their chance to win on their bets placed.

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August 18, 2024, 12:18:39 PM
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There is this doubt that have suddenly filled my mind regarding my skills in sports betting.  Most times the games I am sure of end up not working as predicted whereas the ones I play with doubt and fear work out fine. This makes me begin to wonder if there is actually skill in sports betting or it is entirely a game of luck. I understand that knowing events across different sports and leagues can help in the selection, this is what many people interpret as skill, but sometimes despite this knowledge, consistency is still a problem. .

in sports matches, we can see the situation of the team that is going to compete. it can be from statistics or the strength of the squad. it requires knowledge that of course must be adjusted to the bets we will make. I mean don't force yourself to bet on a match where you don't know the chances. don't focus only on big names, because the quality of the game displayed on the field is sometimes far different from what we predict. the fact that some key players on the team cannot play due to injury or card accumulation can also be a consideration because it can affect the team's game.

and maybe you can't forget the most important part of gambling is luck. you can have skills, but some percentages will still be stuck on luck after we make a bet.

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