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August 19, 2024, 07:24:20 PM
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

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August 19, 2024, 07:30:59 PM
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You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.

That is one thing about betting, the gambler will be winning and it will be very interesting for him to continue playing.  It if he continued to play, likely he would have lost some money or lost all if he had the time to bet more.

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August 19, 2024, 07:45:51 PM
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.

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August 19, 2024, 07:49:32 PM
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There is nothing wrong with what you've done. As a good friend, you're in the best position to call him to order at the time he is allowing his emotions to get the better of him. I've hard countless numbers of experiences in virtual gambling and it works in such a way that while you're winning you're tempted to keep playing up untill you've lost all the initial wins you had and even loose the extra money you came with before you now regret now leaving the betting shop earlier enough. At least even if he's angry that he should have won more, because he even got 3 times what he cane with is enough to shoe that he hard a Smooth and nice gambling outing.

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August 19, 2024, 07:52:18 PM
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Someone once told me never to interrupt an angry gambler. You'll never gain anything from it and he'll be angry at you for denying him a win, or not allowing him to earn back what he'd lost.
It reminds me of a story a friend once told me about helping a drunk guy. He saw a man lying on the side of the road at night and there was nobody around to help him, so he pulled him up and sat him on a nearby bench. The drunkard woke up, reached for his pocket and asked: where's my wallet? I had a wallet and you took it from me you thief! In a nutshell this is the thanks you get for trying to help an addict.
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August 19, 2024, 07:55:31 PM
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You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up.

Yeah, my thought also, two days in a row, a bit weird, maybe highly exaggerated stuff from the past?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

Morally, yes!
Now the bad about this could be the attitude of your friend and his temper.
If this had become an angrier discussion he might have slapped or pushed you, the betting local owners would have intervened or ask for the police, I don't know where you live but in some Western countries, this might have degenerated enough for you to spend a night in jail.

It all depends on the situation and the type of establishment, but quite ironically, ignoring the other consequences of a fight or a scandal would also have helped him if they had added him to a blacklist for that incident. A lot of pros and cons depending on way too many factors.





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August 19, 2024, 07:56:12 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?

How old are you? I feel like this story is from some twenty-year-old person... excuse me if I am wrong.

You did what you thought should be done, and that should be respected. No one knows what would have happened if he had stayed to gamble, maybe he would have won more, maybe he would have lost everything he has. Your friend can say what he wants, agree with it or not... in the end situations like this show how strong friendship is. If the friendship is strong, he will understand that you wanted the best for him, and if he doesn't understand that, then he is not a real friend.

I think that your reaction was good, you kept your cool and you did what you did with the best of intentions. If he doesn't understand that, that's up to him...

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August 19, 2024, 08:18:47 PM
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On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
You really did well for your friend. When we are gambling and we are experiencing a winning streak, we just have to know when we will stop gambling because it can’t just continue like that, time will come when we are going to start losing. That’s just what your friend doesn’t understand, and immediately we start losing. It’s always difficult to stop gambling because we will be thinking that if we keep on trying it, then we will be able to recover or win more. You really helped your friend by lifting him outside.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
If not for your help, I am sure your friend will end up losing most of the money he won back, if not everything, which is due to greed. Your friend wanted to double the money, but from what you said, he was able to make more than double of his money. Him trying to win more is just purely greedy, which is totally bad.

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August 19, 2024, 08:25:15 PM
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Fun fact for gambler.

Never brough any friend of you who are not gambler to do gambler, all the addiction and someone turn on to be gambler is because "friend" is introduce to them. It's one of the factor, did your friend is a gambler.

It's not, from my perspective you should be a shame cause we know gambling have serious problem and we don't want our friend got those.

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August 19, 2024, 08:55:00 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?

You were right because you pulled your friend out of there.

Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?

Probably, we'll never know because it's been out of the picture since you left the betting shop.

Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

He will continue.

I never blame gambling activities, because I'm also a gambler, but what makes me unhappy with the story above is how you & your friend who don't seem to be gamblers go to gambling activities. Gambling activities should be responsible activities, which a person does without being forced by any circumstances.

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August 19, 2024, 09:16:13 PM
Last edit: August 19, 2024, 10:05:15 PM by letteredhub
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Your friend won't know you have done to him what any good friend would do to each other. He may be angry at the instant but afterwards when he is settled and recall the moment he is going to thank you for  lifting him out of the gambling shop when he didn't had the thought of doing it himself because of how he was too carried away by the winnings which could have later turned to losses if he had continued a little longer.

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August 19, 2024, 09:19:17 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
You didn't do anything wrong but your friend didn't understand that because you look like a responsible gambler and you were just looking out for your friend. But did you know that some people would never learn from the mistakes of others untill they have made theirs? When you tell them your own mistakes, they'll dismiss like it can never happen to them until it does.

Secondly, I wouldn't know of your friend would have continued gambling if he lost as we don't know about his gambling history. I would have been able to make my predictions if you had told us a little about his past betting habits.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Interrupting his session while he's up was the best decision you've made there, it might cause him to miss out on potential winnings, but you never know when his luck will end.

If he kept on betting, I think he'd win some more before going on a losing streak, gamblers always try to push their luck while it's hot.

The best-case scenario would be for him to stop once he loses, but he could also react differently and try to recover his recent losses.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You've done really well, like the saying goes, the stubborn fly followed the corpse into the ground. You just lifted that your stubborn fly friend out of great trouble since it's obvious he's lost control in his gambling activity.

He's also gambling with the wrong motive and has a greedy target, so it's obvious he would possibly lose his bets and start chasing his loses since he wants to cash out big and not just having some fun.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Your friend won't know you have done to him what any good friend would do to each other. He may be angry at the instant but afterwards when he is settled and recall the moment he is going to thank you for  lifting him out of the gambling shop when he didn't had the thought of doing it himself because of how he was too carried away by the winnings which could have later turned to losses if he had continued a little longer.

Not every one that loses in his first time of gambling stops to gamble, some people that's the beginning of a long gambling history while for another that's an end.

Yep, I think OP's friend will appreciate it in the future.

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You did the right thing to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more because he was start to becomes greedy and wants more winning. He doesn't realizes that his wins can turn into lose once his greed increase so he must thanks to you because you can act fast to save him. Although he say that he can win once more, there still no guarantee for him to win again in gambling and you know that so you did the right thing.

Greed can rollover him and makes him lose much money. The chance of the next win will be there but not big than his losses in the next match. So he must realizes that you only saves him and don't want to see he lose much money in the next match. If he lose in the next match, he will difficult to stops himself because his minds will telling him to keep playing gambling. You don't have to thinks much about his yelling because you don't want to see your friend becomes greed.

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You did the right thing to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more because he was start to becomes greedy and wants more winning. He doesn't realizes that his wins can turn into lose once his greed increase so he must thanks to you because you can act fast to save him. Although he say that he can win once more, there still no guarantee for him to win again in gambling and you know that so you did the right thing.

Greed can rollover him and makes him lose much money. The chance of the next win will be there but not big than his losses in the next match. So he must realizes that you only saves him and don't want to see he lose much money in the next match. If he lose in the next match, he will difficult to stops himself because his minds will telling him to keep playing gambling. You don't have to thinks much about his yelling because you don't want to see your friend becomes greed.

I think what was done is right and greed shouldn't plant its seeds from the get-go, because it's very hard to get rid of Grin

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Kind of? I mean yeah, you had the best intentions sure but that's a YOU thing. Not a him thing. No one really wants someone else bothering you from doing something, regardless of how kind your intentions are. If he asked for help or told you to warn him when he's going past some limit, then yeah sure go do your thing. But if not, then just warn him at most, and if he doesn't acknowledge it then leave him to his actions.

As for him winning or losing god knows really. I mean I reckon you'd probably have better opinions than me, he's your friend lol. Same with the results, it's a gamble man. It's 50/50.

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But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

You are a good friend and I feel that you are close to each other, from my point of view you have done nothing wrong but thinking about your friend's situation, it is quite embarrassing to be carried out of the gambling shop like a kid.

The second thing, your friend is not a minor I suppose he knows in himself that he knows what he is doing and that he is winning and he wanted to win more.  Carrying him out of the gambling shop is restricting his freedom although you have good intentions for him it is oppression.

Whether he win or lose all his money is out of your concern, you can remind him or tell him the possible consequences but the fact that you use physical force to stop him makes him feel oppressed.  I would also get annoyed if you do that to me because the action would embarrass me and at the same time you are oppressing my freedom of choice.

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August 20, 2024, 06:23:26 AM
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Fun fact for gambler.

Never brough any friend of you who are not gambler to do gambler, all the addiction and someone turn on to be gambler is because "friend" is introduce to them. It's one of the factor, did your friend is a gambler.

It's not, from my perspective you should be a shame cause we know gambling have serious problem and we don't want our friend got those.
You like it or you do not like it, people and even kids are exposed to gambling in this period of life that we are. Ashame for what? He is a good friend and he did the right thing. He did not even posted that his friend is new to gambling. Just that some gamblers are greedy in a way that if they are winning, they will continue to gamble until they started to lose. It is not about his friend is new to gambling or not.

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