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August 21, 2024, 04:59:23 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

If you had not dragged or carried him out of that place by force, chances that he would have won more or lose more is unimaginable. I wouldn't say it was for you to have dragged him out, perhaps he never had the intention to gambler that day but you were still the reason why he stepped into a bet shop that day, if you had not gone there to see your friend, there's no way he would feel the desire to place some bet. In my own opinion, you did well. Gambling result is unpredictable and he was not sure that he would have won.

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August 21, 2024, 07:54:17 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
What you did was indeed the perfect decision any good friend would have done in scenarios like this, since it's obvious, he was already been carried away by his few winnings, because thou he may be upset at the moment when you carried him from the betting shop, I'm sure he will always thank you for that for knowing when to stop, because if he had gambled one more time, there is a higher tendency, it would have been disastrous, as luck doesn't come always.

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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
It's under probability, because the same way he would have won, that's the same way he would have lose too. Gambling is a game of luck, whose outcome is a product of the algorithm.

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August 21, 2024, 08:11:08 PM
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If you forced him out of the place probably because you are bigger than him or he has so much respect for you and you used that against him then I think you did something wrong because everyone deserves a chance to do what ever they choose to, you can only play your part and advice him but definitely you should not force him to do that which you want.

I believe in advising people and letting them make their own decisions, this way they face what ever the outcome maybe and take responsibility.
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August 21, 2024, 08:19:20 PM
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Why do you have to draw him out of the betting for going home, since he still have the money to spare for gambling and that is none of your business on whether he is losing or catching fun winning, at least he is enjoying the best of his time gambling, except if he is doing that form the purpose of making money of which he must have run lost earlier to that, gambling is our own individual decision to make and we don't have to allow any external constraint or party affect the way we are gong to enjoy playing it, if we lost then we chose to or knew already that it could happened, to you now, you think you have helped him while he is seeing it as an hindrance on allowing him to have more winning opportunity.

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August 21, 2024, 08:47:35 PM
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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
It's under probability, because the same way he would have won, that's the same way he would have lose too. Gambling is a game of luck, whose outcome is a product of the algorithm.
The probability may be 50:50, but it will be quite risky if it continues, especially if at the beginning you have already won as a consolation prize.
It is not easy to get big wins, it really depends on luck and how the gambling algorithm works.

OP makes a good friend to remind and take his friend out before disaster strikes, but he may also be blamed when the bet made should have won big.
It would be wrong if someone who is already a gambling addict is prohibited from making bets.

But yes, just take the positive lessons, being addicted or betting without doing strategy and management is stupid.
Gamblers will be happy if they play it right and use it as entertainment, but it will be terrible if they just want to big win.

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August 21, 2024, 09:14:55 PM
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If one begins to make steady profits through gambling, the logic naturally follows that more will be made by continuing to play. More often than not, this is a route to loss, especially when greed creeps in.

If your friend keeps on gambling, he might win big. On the other hand, he could just as easily lose every dime of his streak. Such is the nature of luck in gambling; it could turn at any instant. Walking away at a time when one is winning suffices as prudent, for avarice ordinarily ushers folks into playing further till they lose everything. That is what might happen if your friend does not stop.

It's an interesting discussion, especially when we look at how gambling can affect one's decision. So, while he may be sore at you, you actually did him a favor and saved him from losing much more.

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August 21, 2024, 09:31:35 PM
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.
Hey bro at first I would like to appreciate your efforts here but to say I made my story up is like saying i don't know what I am doing. But still I won't look into it because there are lots of people who regularly made up stories just to boost their post count and if you must know I am not those, and whatever thing I post here is my day personal experience so sometimes I have different encounters in real life but don't feels like to share here because I felt some people may not believe it so I decided to keep some within myself and never to share. So now I know my next steps to follow maybe I would be including graphics to back it up so that you wouldn't turned to a doubting thomas.

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August 21, 2024, 10:02:11 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
You did what a friend is expected to do, as you didn't want to see him losing his hard earned money and the further negative consequences this loss would imply for his personal life. You tried to take care your friend the best you could on that moment and there is nothing wrong with that, even though nothing forbids him from coming back later to the betting shop without your presence to place more bets.

Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
No, he probably would have lost all his money if you didn't prevent him from gambling. Your friend displays clear gambling addiction signals, as he is compulsive to continue gambling without knowing when to quit for his own good.

Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
By what you reported, he would have continued until the losing the last penny, and that is really sad. He got somehow aggressive yelling on you after the incident as well, so it's quite worrying.

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August 21, 2024, 10:09:20 PM
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Nobody knows if he could have won more games or maybe he was in his winning streak. However, what you did was the best because if he continues to win he might end up gambling more and at the end lose the little that he has profited and even lose Thebes money he went there with. But you prevented that from happening and your friend will not understand that you saved him from losing his profit. If only we gamblers can have people around us to stop us when we are gambling the wrong way.

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August 21, 2024, 10:23:49 PM
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You have proven that you are one friend who wants the best for him. He may not see the good you have done at that moment but sooner or later he will realize that you stopped him from starting something he may regret or do at the end of the day. Just so you know I have never heard or seen someone who said they would just gamble for a few minutes or step in the gambling shop to walk away. It starts from the act of gambling once to steady gambling.

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Someone once told me never to interrupt an angry gambler. You'll never gain anything from it and he'll be angry at you for denying him a win, or not allowing him to earn back what he'd lost.
It reminds me of a story a friend once told me about helping a drunk guy. He saw a man lying on the side of the road at night and there was nobody around to help him, so he pulled him up and sat him on a nearby bench. The drunkard woke up, reached for his pocket and asked: where's my wallet? I had a wallet and you took it from me you thief! In a nutshell this is the thanks you get for trying to help an addict.

The gambler who was short temper in nature was the angry gambler.This was the inbuilt one,they not become the angry gambler because of the gambling loss.This was the another case,the gambler who had loss huge money became the angry gambler.Most of the time,you can’t convey the good things to the angry gambler.Because their opinion will be different for the gambling as compared to the other gamblers.Because they thought the gamblers who use the huge money in the gambling site will be lost.But this was the hypothetical one,the loss in the gambling due to the random betting and the unlucky game of the gamblers.

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Although your friend failed to recognize the good you did for him by taking him out of the casino, what you did wasn't wrong in any way, you were right in almost all you except if you were violent at some point then it will be considered a problem because that can cause some rift between you both.

Those games can be very addictive and the gambler may not realize that on time until after they must have lost a whole lot then they will start having regrets about what they have done and wished they would have done better, he's thinking he would have won some more if you had allowed him until you had allowed him and then see him loosing some more then you would have been the good friend and probably he would have learnt his lessons already.

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It's a dilemma, I don't want to blame you, cz you're all an adult, and your friend know it.
however, people's responses must be like this:
"Because of you, he knows that place, you invited him, right?"

The fact remains if you invite him to that place. But basically, it will depend on the person, whether he will really join in and get addicted, or not. Because in society, often, the environment introduces gambling, and their circle in that friendship environment influences each other to gamble.

But actually what you did was right, preventing him from playing again and losing more money. Just let him get angry, but at least his interactions with you have been prevented. the worry is that he will leave secretly without you and carry out gambling that doesn't stop.

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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

Upgrading your friend from the casino may be viewed as protection from the negative consequences of excessive gambling. Due to its unpredictability and high-risk nature, it can't be proven that continuation would bring greater success; the old winner might well lose. If he had not stopped right there, he could have either won more or lost all of it, as gambling is usually after one has suffered a loss. Your friend's actions probably demonstrate the mentality of a regular player where immediate setbacks are looked upon as being transitory rather than cause to quit. It is generally advisable to cut your losses and withdraw while you are ahead, and thus your help in this case may be viewed as an intervention to save her from further losses.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
You did not do anything wrong in pulling him outside the gambling shop perhaps, if he has lost, you may extend his grieves towards you particularly that he stepped into the bet shop after you.

Maybe I should tell you to be careful otherwise when you want to take such friend out of such gambling situation because you can imagine if he was loosing, definitely he would be aggressive and dangerous at that moment because he has been under pressure or greeds or trying to recover his lost.

However, friends that watches each others back would always appreciate each other at all.

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I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

You know that greedy is the factor here, I mean this emotion can be happen on every person on earth including my self and base on the story your friend yell at you because he thinks he gonna win more.
You can freely leave your friend so if he losses maybe he's gonna feel sorry to you but if he win he gonna hate you
But If Im in your position Im gonna leave him but still watching from the outside

Have I done wrong by lifting him outside the betting shop? It could be yes and no In my opinion

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I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
There are two things that you mentioned to us: one is that his luck was good and he wins all the time, and the second thing is that you noticed a greedy nature in him, which may cause him to lose all his winnings. In this case, I think you did the right thing by getting him up from the table because he did not know about himself and was deeply engrossed in betting. His emotions (that is, greed) started to rise and took control of him. If you were not at that place, he might have left the shop only after losing everything.

You are a good friend, and we all need friends who always look out for us and do their best to stop us from things that ruin our lives. Remember that winning does not always mean you won't lose; you may lose all your winnings in one huge bet. Before this happens, listen to your friend and be happy with the amount you won for that day. Greed is a nature that only stops when you lose all your assets.

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August 22, 2024, 10:33:54 AM
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Nobody knows if he could have won more games or maybe he was in his winning streak.
His friend might think he could win more if he continued gambling, but yes, there is no guarantee about it, and what OP did was just save his friend from getting addicted and losing more.

Many gamblers can't afford to stop gambling when they win; most of them double or triple their bet, believing that they could win more. Greed always comes next, and this kind of gambler never thinks the worst thing awaits them. 

Putting a shoe on OP, I don't argue with him but rather let it go. Greediness is hard to stop, and people are willing to argue, thinking that they are right. They only realize their wrongdoings and remember the help of other people when they suffer major losses. 

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August 22, 2024, 10:44:59 AM
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What you did I call it a double edged sword no matter that many people will say well done to you.May be I will say well done too if your friend would have continued and lost but if your friend had continued and may be hit a really huge win and placed a ticket with so many events maybe,then there is nothing to say well done here,you maybe have removed his chance to win big,to make a change and impact in his life.I know that most likely addiction would come after that huge win but that is another story and we are discussing the behavior in here,while many will claim you did well I simply don't know if you did well or not as we don't know what would have happened if you let your friend play.

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August 22, 2024, 11:49:17 AM
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What you did I call it a double edged sword no matter that many people will say well done to you.May be I will say well done too if your friend would have continued and lost but if your friend had continued and may be hit a really huge win and placed a ticket with so many events maybe,then there is nothing to say well done here,you maybe have removed his chance to win big,to make a change and impact in his life.I know that most likely addiction would come after that huge win but that is another story and we are discussing the behavior in here,while many will claim you did well I simply don't know if you did well or not as we don't know what would have happened if you let your friend play.

You're right and I completely agree. It's impossible to do well in this situation. It's one of those impossible choices, like whether you tell your loved ones that you have a deadly disease, or not. If you tell them, you will be honest with them but they will worry, if you don't they'll surely ask why you kept it a secret for so long and feel like you did not trust them.
I'd try to persuade him to leave, but if that failed, I'd let him make his life choices.

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