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August 22, 2024, 12:02:57 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
No you are not wrong by lifting him from the gambling hall, because that is what a wise friend will do. But apart from lifting him probably you would have approached him in a more reasonable manner. Lifting him up sounds like childrens play.

Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
It all depends, since gambling is a game of luck who knows maybe he could have win or likewisly lose. It is not certain but it is under probablity.

Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
It's a personal decision and not mine to predict. If he is a gambling addict, he will continue. But if he is not then he will stop.

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August 22, 2024, 12:16:35 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?

No, you did not do anything wrong but what you did was not yet necessary. I mean you did the right thing at the wrong time. From your narration, he won three slips out of four that he played which is a sign of luck. Since he was using the money won to play, you should have given him some chance to see what will happen next before you interfere.

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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?

Nobody can answer this accurately. There's 50/50 chance of losing and winning here. In most cases, a win is highly predicted since he's not chasing his losses. Although banking on luck rides in cases like that also result to lose sometime.

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Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

This is where you were supposed to come in for your friend. Suppose he continue playing and lose all the money won but still wants to keep playing, you have no any option than to push him away from the gambling center. I doubt this happening thou since he admitted that he knew what he was doing at the center on your way going home.

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August 22, 2024, 12:24:30 PM
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I don't know how your friend feels but to me, you're acting a very good and caring friend and should be commended for your action. There are friends who would've allowed him continue gambling until he loses all he had initially won. Maybelline he would not appreciate your thoughtfulness to stop him from gambling further now, but he'll definitely admit that you did him a huge favour the next time he goes to that same place alone. I just want you to know that what you did is exactly what I'll do to my own friend in other to save him from regretting.

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August 22, 2024, 12:38:39 PM
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Maybelline he would not appreciate your thoughtfulness to stop him from gambling further now, but he'll definitely admit that you did him a huge favour the next time he goes to that same place alone.
Real friends will prefer you to hate them rather than see you dig your own grave. That is a real friend and he might be too emotional now to see how lucky he’s gotten for having a friend like that but he will look back and be very thankful forever.

I am sure it is also a relief for a friend to save their loved one from a possible loss.

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August 22, 2024, 12:45:48 PM
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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.

You did the right thing. He is becoming too greedy, and becoming too greedy will lead you to lose a lot. He will thank you later.

The most challenging thing in gambling is to stop when you are winning. We are tempted to push our luck when luck is something that happens, not something we have.

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August 22, 2024, 01:02:17 PM
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You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.

That is one thing about betting, the gambler will be winning and it will be very interesting for him to continue playing.  It if he continued to play, likely he would have lost some money or lost all if he had the time to bet more.
Most times we win, lose and we win again that is gambling for you and what makes you the final winner, is your ability to stop gambling win you already won your bet, that way you walk away with your winnings, but the memment that you continue to gamble when when you believe you can win more, at that poinyon ward you start losing a rapid level.

For the ops to ha e been able to pull his friend off when he already win indeed is a good act to safe the winning instead of continuing to play and ending up with loses as final occurrence.

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August 22, 2024, 01:06:51 PM
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I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

Depends on whether you have forced him against his will or convinced him. I would not uphold the decision on forcing your friend  from gambling shop as it may result in the opposite effect and force him to turn back after you close eyes. But, if you convinced him by making out a case in favour of potential harm to his pockets/health/enything-else which could  resul from  his   stay there then you was of service to your friend.

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August 22, 2024, 01:32:05 PM
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Winning is the best feeling in the world. But it can can be misleading, particularly in gambling. A siren melody lures you in with promises of more. Soon, you're too deep.

You saw your friend win and sought to defend him, like a true friend. Maybe it was abrupt, maybe he didnt appreciate it, but you were looking out for him. Thats true friendship Here's the true lesson: gambling is chance. Big wins and losses are possible. More wins make you feel invincible. That thinking is risky.

So chat to your pal. Justify your actions. Show him you care. Maybe he'll realize that sometimes the best way to win is to go. True friends tell you the truth, even when its painful. A friendship is worth more than a lottery.

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August 22, 2024, 01:54:00 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
I think you did the right thing, but your friend will find it hard to accept it and he will accept it when he plays again and it turns out he loses.

Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Once again, like many discussions, what happened to your friend was just a coincidence, a coincidence at the beginning of his gambling he was able to win which made him continue to think that he would be able to continue winning his gambling sessions if he continued, but in fact play longer the chances of losing everything were very possible.

Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Anything can happen because your friend becomes curious which will make him play again but he can also stop because he feels sorry for losing money.

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August 23, 2024, 10:31:43 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
You did not do anything wrong in pulling him outside the gambling shop perhaps, if he has lost, you may extend his grieves towards you particularly that he stepped into the bet shop after you.

Maybe I should tell you to be careful otherwise when you want to take such friend out of such gambling situation because you can imagine if he was loosing, definitely he would be aggressive and dangerous at that moment because he has been under pressure or greeds or trying to recover his lost.

However, friends that watches each others back would always appreciate each other at all.
I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.

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August 24, 2024, 03:18:01 AM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You did good to stop your friend when you did. There is no telling what would have happened if he continued gambling that day. From what I have read in the OP, I believe he would have lost his money chasing losses. In the OP, you told us that your friend won you and others in a game of checkers. Those victories have boosted his confidence in himself and he will be feeling like it’s his lucky day (superstition is common trait among many gamblers) and these two factors can push him into making more bets even when he is losing.

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August 24, 2024, 05:00:24 AM
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You are not wrong in this case because have helped you friend to stay on the safe track when gambling, if you do not decide to ask him out and stop the prolonged betting, something bad could happen.
Maybe he thinks to be able to make more wins and collect some money if he still has luck, but if not, it can also result in big loss and spend everything he has earned.
Moreover, if something bad really happens and loses all the money, it can trigger an emotional increase that can lead him to go further by using other additional money to bet again, in conditions like this it will be difficult for him to stop.
In this context, I quite salute you who still care about other people or it is you own friend.
That's great that before he did the lifting thing, he still asked for a permission to his friend. It is only inappropriate if his friend did not agree with it and we still do the thing that we are planning to do even if we can say that it was beneficial for the bettor because each of us must still have their own rights and they can do whatever they wanted to do even if it was wrong in the eyes of the others.

We can only hope that they can still realized it at the end and won't lead to a more fatal situations like addictions, doing a crime, and loss of life. Apart from that, there are still gamblers who have a control of their selves but I think we can also know this if we are observing them for a very long time already.

It's just that they can sometimes do crazy things either intentional or not and we see this coincidentally resulting us to rattle and mind their own business. Gambling is mostly a game of luck and luck is a complicated thing but there is still a way to test if our luck is there and if it is still there. Let us only remember that gambling is a highly addicting activity, so we must be careful because we can unintentionally continue even though we already know that our luck is not there or not there anymore.

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August 24, 2024, 05:37:50 AM
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I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.
You are right because when we lose, there will be a wanting to continue playing gambling and recover our losses. You do the right thing to stopped him from continuing gambling so he can see that you as his friend not letting him losses more. Gambling can tempt people easily so that is why we must know when we stop gambling and related to your friend, he must realizes that you reminds him from the other losses that he can get if he decide to continue gambling. He must realizes that gambling can tempting him and difficult to stops gambling. He still have the other days to playing gambling and not just that day so he can prevent the next losses.

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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.
Nope, never.

Regardless he end up become a millionaire, homeless or still same, he will think at that time he would make a lot of money and he always think you as someone who stop him to change his life.

Never try to control or influence something that related to money, it will end your relationship.

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August 24, 2024, 09:08:41 PM
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I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.
You are right because when we lose, there will be a wanting to continue playing gambling and recover our losses. You do the right thing to stopped him from continuing gambling so he can see that you as his friend not letting him losses more. Gambling can tempt people easily so that is why we must know when we stop gambling and related to your friend, he must realizes that you reminds him from the other losses that he can get if he decide to continue gambling. He must realizes that gambling can tempting him and difficult to stops gambling. He still have the other days to playing gambling and not just that day so he can prevent the next losses.
Whenever people gambles and they win they will always think that day is there best day to continue gambling without knowing that it is just a kind of trap lure the gambler dip into commission to gamble before he would start losing all that he has won previously, but a reasonable gambler is not meant to get carried with the constant winning instead after winning twice it's left for him to quit for that day and distance the gambling site before regrets follows.

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August 25, 2024, 09:11:44 PM
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You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.

That is one thing about betting, the gambler will be winning and it will be very interesting for him to continue playing.  It if he continued to play, likely he would have lost some money or lost all if he had the time to bet more.


You have made reasonable points, winning comes with so much excitement such that when one can not control it, it becomes problematic and most times we will definitely end up losing all that have won, understanding entering and exiting from gambling at every given time is very important as to enable us not to overly allocate our time, energy and resources, what we have been discussing here is very important and is very beneficial to majority of us, especially when we do talk about gambling with only the amount we can afford to lose which is also very important, as not to become addicted.

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August 25, 2024, 09:53:47 PM
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Wow your friend truly has zero self control.

I'd say good on you for wanting to get so deep in helping him, but most likely even if he was a child and was acting like that, his father would rather let him cry and make a fool of himself rather than physically pick him up. To his eyes you violated his adulthood and freedom of choice but really his train of thought is very irrational right after this point. You can't expect to keep winning. If you win two times in a row already it's time to go home and enjoy the pot of money you won, however small. Since your friend couldn't understand that you acted like a guardian angel.

If he keeps being angry at you it's on him. This is such a story though, if he's a good friend he should appreciate it down the line.

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August 25, 2024, 10:32:24 PM
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Matter of perspective here. To the friend that got pulled out when he was on a roll, you're the asshole, he's feeling it, he's winning a lot of games, and then you pulled him out, that's a massive dick move if I do see one. But then again, I can see why you had to pull him out of his seat. The idea to go there was for a different purpose, to be side-tracked is a massive inconvenience. If I were you, and if he's really a genuinely good person, I'd talk to him about this and make him understand why you did such things, if he still sees malice behind your actions, then the friendship isn't probably worth it. Worse comes to worst, you'll be keeping a chronic impulsive gambler on your squad which wouldn't make for a solid roster. You gotta look out for yourself too after all.

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August 25, 2024, 10:57:52 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
That's the best thing you can do, besides that he already win. Imagine lossing those winnings plus your friend's capital will only give your friend more reason to gamble again and again to chase the loss. If your friend still complains for what you did until today or until you get together again, then there's really a problem to him. Without self-control people always ends up become broke.

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August 26, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
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Whenever people gambles and they win they will always think that day is there best day to continue gambling without knowing that it is just a kind of trap lure the gambler dip into commission to gamble before he would start losing all that he has won previously, but a reasonable gambler is not meant to get carried with the constant winning instead after winning twice it's left for him to quit for that day and distance the gambling site before regrets follows.
Yeah, that will be what they think so that will be the reason for them to continue gambling and hopes that they can win more money. They don't see something wrong will happen if they decide to continue gambling because their minds has been close by the wanting of make more money from gambling. That will gives them risks because they can lose their money including their win money if they decide to continue gambling after they win. The worst is they can becomes addicted to gambling when they feels difficult to stops from gambling. If they already win, they must realizes that is the time for them to stop gambling and not decide to chase more winning as that will not easy to win more money. If they can stop gambling, they will have a chance to withdraw the money or save the money in their account so they don't have to deposit the other money to playing gambling.

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