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September 08, 2024, 01:01:57 PM
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We all know that gambling can be really addictive, and continuously doing that and making it a hobby can lead to losing more money. I think it's pretty easy to get caught up with excitement and the possibility of winning more money.

You acted out like that because you were concerned for him. If he still comes back, I don't think it's your fault anymore. It's because he wants to, and you do that is good, in my opinion.

With the reasoning of the "possibility" of winning more, it's just a risk. It shouldn't be like that. You are a good friend, but if he continues, he needs to realize what he is doing on his own.

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September 08, 2024, 01:14:41 PM
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On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
You acted out of love and concern for you friend because you're probably more experienced or more disciplined about gambling. Some decisions are not easy to take but sometimes you need to take drastic steps inorder to save a friend from making mistakes so I believe that you did the right thing. Gambling requires sell control, without it a gambler can unknowingly become obsessed and at that point he needs a force that will bring him back to reality. Every gambler must fight that urge to over gamble, it starts with overconfidence to increase wins and chasing loses, they're the keys to addiction.

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September 08, 2024, 01:40:15 PM
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On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
You acted out of love and concern for you friend because you're probably more experienced or more disciplined about gambling. Some decisions are not easy to take but sometimes you need to take drastic steps inorder to save a friend from making mistakes so I believe that you did the right thing. Gambling requires sell control, without it a gambler can unknowingly become obsessed and at that point he needs a force that will bring him back to reality. Every gambler must fight that urge to over gamble, it starts with overconfidence to increase wins and chasing loses, they're the keys to addiction.
Pulling someone out when they are on a winning streak is sometimes gratitude but sometimes disgust, if a friend is mentally strong enough they will be grateful when their friend helps them not get caught up in the game and the material things in front of them but sometimes it is a reverse anger. In general, kindness does not need a return, gratitude is good but someone reflects with anger, let them continue and honestly, we have qualified as a good friend, there is nothing wrong with continuing on their journey.

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September 08, 2024, 02:12:26 PM
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

         -       I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

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September 08, 2024, 02:15:30 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

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September 08, 2024, 02:27:24 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

What you said is true but most people are not as thoughtful as us specially the gamblers. There are various reasons why gamblers have a different mentality when they gamble. They might believe on lucky streak or some superstition. A fried of mine believed the gambling luck depends on the movement of the planets and placed bet when the specific planets aligned. The act done by OP might be a noble one but I hardly believe his gambler friend thinks so.
The better thing to do was to tell the person about how you think and don't get involved physically. OP and his friend might have been too close to get physical but most gamblers won't take it in a positive way.

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September 08, 2024, 02:30:17 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

What you said is true but most people are not as thoughtful as us specially the gamblers. There are various reasons why gamblers have a different mentality when they gamble. They might believe on lucky streak or some superstition. A fried of mine believed the gambling luck depends on the movement of the planets and placed bet when the specific planets aligned. The act done by OP might be a noble one but I hardly believe his gambler friend thinks so.
The better thing to do was to tell the person about how you think and don't get involved physically. OP and his friend might have been too close to get physical but most gamblers won't take it in a positive way.

You are right.
It may end badly otherwise for the person even if he would try to be nice.
It would be really great if OP's friend would eventually appreciate it.

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September 08, 2024, 02:53:50 PM
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Taking him away from that gambling shop is a mean of instilling discipline on him truly he could have been tempted to continue to gamble more due to greediness consequently might ended up losing all his already won bets, this is common and rampant among gamblers it's a like a spirit tempting them to continue betting with guarantee of winning streak whereas it's just a spirit of addiction, this is a more lesson learnt here and that is how addiction to gambling is started if caution or discipline is not imbibed on any gambler to stop it is very disastrous.
That is how gambling tempt people to chase their win. People lose control because they want to win more money from gambling. But they must know that not many gamblers can win more money but they can lose their money.

The temptation will become bigger if they think they can win for more without think about the losing. Their greediness will also make them forget to stops gambling after they win. But his friend should thank you to @OP because he can drag him out from gambling before something bad happen.

We hope that we have a good friend that will always remind us especially in gambling. They can take care of us and watch us while gambling so they can do something when they feels something different happen.

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September 08, 2024, 03:06:12 PM
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
There are two possibilities in this case that you could be said to be wrong, indeed you would be considered wrong for asking him to go and secondly you could also backfire from the defeat he experienced, it's all a factor of your friend's own greed.

My understanding is that you are not wrong, in my opinion you have saved him from real losses, what you did accidentally saved him from the suffering of gambling, Let him grumble that it's important that you have done something useful even though he himself doesn't admit it because of his arrogance and greed.

My advice in the future is that if he still blames you for gambling, in the future don't come or take him to the casino again, let him come alone, so that you don't backfire on him, I'm sure he will regret his own behavior.

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September 08, 2024, 03:08:21 PM
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My advice in the future is that if he still blames you for gambling, in the future don't come or take him to the casino again, let him come alone, so that you don't backfire on him, I'm sure he will regret his own behavior.

I think you are totally hitting the point.
Helping once is great, but if the person doesn't want to learn - what can you do?
Pretty obvious to me.

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