What you call Bitcoin is not Bitcoin, The Hijacking story.

[MeGold666]

Hijacking Bitcoin Audio-book | Roger Ver -Distributed freely under "Creative Commons" license.

This is a mandatory position for anyone interested in Bitcoin, enjoy!

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[tranthidung]

Hijacking Bitcoin Audio-book | Roger Ver

This is a mandatory position for anyone interested in Bitcoin, enjoy!

Over&Out

I don't need to waste my time for watching the video because with several years in this market, I knew who is Roger Ver and what he did.

He is a core member of BitcoinCash scam team that lied a lot and did shady things with their website with intention to mislead unknowledgeable people for stealing their money or bitcoins.

Make sure when you get legit bitcoin and its wallets, resources
To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!

[ABCbits]

I'm not sure the uploader have Roger Ver permission, since that youtube link isn't listed on https://www.hijackingbitcoin.com/. Anyway, why do you think it's mandatory read for Bitcoiner? While he was biggest Bitcoin supporters on early days, his stance on block size and BCH are very controversial, so i wonder whether the book is biased.

[MeGold666]

I'm not sure the uploader have Roger Ver permission, since that youtube link isn't listed on https://www.hijackingbitcoin.com/. Anyway, why do you think it's mandatory read for Bitcoiner? While he was biggest Bitcoin supporters on early days, his stance on block size and BCH are very controversial, so i wonder whether the book is biased.

Audio book is for free on Amazon so I don't think there's any copyright infringement here.

I don't need to waste my time for watching the video because with several years in this market, I knew who is Roger Ver and what he did.

No one is forcing you.

[Fiatless]

Audio book is for free on Amazon so I don't think there's any copyright infringement here.

It is free to access audiobooks on Amazon if you are a registered Prime member. I think you will need permission to publish the book on another platform.

I don't need to waste my time for watching the video because with several years in this market, I knew who is Roger Ver and what he did.

No one is forcing you.

You should have expected such a response. Maybe you might get a more positive response if you create this topic in an altcoin forum. You wouldn't expect members of Bitcoin talk to read or listen to an audiobook written by a well-known traitor, which contains information targeted at discrediting Bitcoin to promote a shitcoin.

[MeGold666]

It is free to access audiobooks on Amazon if you are a registered Prime member. I think you will need permission to publish the book on another platform.

I'm sure the channel owner has rights, otherwise it would be already removed.
He is distributing it under "Creative Commons" license.

You should have expected such a response. Maybe you might get a more positive response if you create this topic in an altcoin forum. You wouldn't expect members of Bitcoin talk to read or listen to an audiobook written by a well-known traitor, which contains information targeted at discrediting Bitcoin to promote a shitcoin.

This is about Bitcoin and this is Bitcoin Discussion section.

[hugeblack]

Can you give me a quick summary of the video, I watched Roger Ver's documentary in 2015 and he was very positive about Bitcoin but since 2017 things have changed and I think he will continue with the same narrative. If it contains facts outside of BCH's vision it might be useful.

[NotATether]

Can you give me a quick summary of the video, I watched Roger Ver's documentary in 2015 and he was very positive about Bitcoin but since 2017 things have changed and I think he will continue with the same narrative. If it contains facts outside of BCH's vision it might be useful.

Well given that Roger Ver is a big blocker, of course the idea of Bitcoin not having a larger block size is repulsive to him.

I didn't watch the video but this is probably going to be a recurring theme within it that I am going to infer now.

I mean, if people actually thought that big blocks were all that was going to be needed to make Bitcoin a fiat-killer, then that is misleading. Governments would never accept Bitcoin as something like that unless it succumbed to a lot of regulatory concessions that would have been easier to implement with big blocks (i.e. less nodes).

[MeGold666]

...Governments would never accept Bitcoin as something like that unless it succumbed to a lot of regulatory concessions that would have been easier to implement with big blocks (i.e. less nodes).

...And since when we should care about what Government thinks ? You're one of those people who wear mask on their face because gov said so ? and took untested "vaccine"  ?
Government is not our friend, it's just a bunch of people who want more power. The sooner you realize it the better for you.
If Satoshi was taking into account what Government thinks he wouldn't create Bitcoin in the first place.

Can you give me a quick summary of the video, I watched Roger Ver's documentary in 2015 and he was very positive about Bitcoin but since 2017 things have changed and I think he will continue with the same narrative. If it contains facts outside of BCH's vision it might be useful.

Here's a quick summary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eafzIW52Rgc&t=1049s

It's over for Bitcoin (whatever version, Core/Cash) anyway, Monero is taking over anywhere both are present.

[nutildah]

Seems like Bitcoin is doing quite well, and its imposters are not.

[MeGold666]

Oh yes, Bitcoin is doing GREAT! (but only if you are blinded by the "number goes up"):

https://x.com/shopinbit/status/1811651225005195471
https://x.com/CoinCards/status/1809702144288882870

Bitcoin - Digital Comedy Gold  



Higher res:
https://i.imgur.com/o0SOSZF.jpeg

[Lucius]

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It's over for Bitcoin (whatever version, Core/Cash) anyway, Monero is taking over anywhere both are present.

Another Monero shill? What the hell is wrong with you these days that you have started (again) with your apocalyptic ideas about Bitcoin? Monero has its advantages over BTC, but you ignore the fact that most people invest in Bitcoin for profit, not to use it as a currency or to protect privacy.

Besides, who even cares what that Judas says, all the good he did in the past for BTC he destroyed after that and now he is in the same category as CW Faketoshi, Gavin Andersen and the like.

[MeGold666]

...Monero has its advantages over BTC, but you ignore the fact that most people invest in Bitcoin for profit, not to use it as a currency or to protect privacy.

If they are in for profit then maybe they should get Monero, see above.  

It will only get worse for Bitcoin as it's being used less and less.

[Lucius]

...Monero has its advantages over BTC, but you ignore the fact that most people invest in Bitcoin for profit, not to use it as a currency or to protect privacy.

If they are in for profit then maybe they should get Monero, see above.  
It will only get worse for Bitcoin as it's being used less and less.

But how are you going to get people to invest in Monero ​​for profit when its price is almost 70% below its ATH it achieved 3 years ago? On the other hand, in the same period, BTC achieved a price increase of about 100%.

The fact that the price of Monero will increase because people (allegedly) use it more and more for transactions is just an illusion, because let's say I live in the EU in a country where private coins are literally banned, you can't trade with them or pay anywhere, while on the other hand with BTC you can buy literally anything you want.

The price of BTC is currently driven by some other factors and has almost nothing to do with whether BTC will be used less and less as a currency.

[MeGold666]

But how are you going to get people to invest in Monero ​​for profit when its price is almost 70% below its ATH it achieved 3 years ago? On the other hand, in the same period, BTC achieved a price increase of about 100%.

Monero has much bigger growth potential, it has much more stable price when it comes to FIAT pairs (Bitcoin is too volatile to compare) and it's not an illusion that it is being used more than Bitcoin for purchases.

The fact that the price of Monero will increase because people (allegedly) use it more and more for transactions is just an illusion, because let's say I live in the EU in a country where private coins are literally banned, you can't trade with them or pay anywhere, while on the other hand with BTC you can buy literally anything you want.

I live in EU and use it often, you can't ban Monero because it is fully decentralized and has a working DeX.
It's like with BitTorrent protocol and piracy content, it's illegal ? yes, did they manage to stop it using all the Hollywood money ? Nope. Why ? Because it's decentralized.

The price of BTC is currently driven by some other factors and has almost nothing to do with whether BTC will be used less and less as a currency.

Yes, this other factors are: Speculation, Speculation, Speculation.
Edit: Forgot about Promises, endless promises of L2's fixing this unscalable junk. L2's that can't even work properly when network has too much traffic due to too small block.

You are talking about possibility of paying with Bitcoin anywhere sometime in future while with Monero you can already do so, you can buy anything from Amazon using Monero:
https://monezon.com/

Now let's say EU decides Bitcoin is illegal, now what ? it's F-ed because it's transparent and so too dangerous to use.
Privacy by default on protocol level ensures that whatever this gov monkeys decide, we will still be able to use it.

The problem with Bitcoin is that people don't want to use it because it's too expensive and too slow to use even today.
That's why Steam platform and other big companies have ditched it, that's why it failed to adopt in El Salvador.

[Doan9269]

This is a mandatory position for anyone interested in Bitcoin, enjoy!

Try to revoke this statement because there is nothing mandatory here for anyone to learn from, we have to made a decision on whether to go through it or not, but in some cases, we many people like Roger Ver in which we already know what they were commonly known for, wasting time on reading more about them may not be needed, they keep making controversial post on the social media and twisting on peoples opinions about bitcoin and altcoin they call bitcoincash.

[MeGold666]

This is a mandatory position for anyone interested in Bitcoin, enjoy!

Try to revoke this statement because there is nothing mandatory here for anyone to learn from, we have to made a decision on whether to go through it or not, but in some cases, we many people like Roger Ver in which we already know what they were commonly known for, wasting time on reading more about them may not be needed, they keep making controversial post on the social media and twisting on peoples opinions about bitcoin and altcoin they call bitcoincash.

The reason it's mandatory to people who care is because people are brainwashed like you are now, there's no twisting of anything - only facts linked to true events which are all visible to anyone who wants to know.
Fortunately more and more people are aware of the true situation, whether you like it or not.
But feel free to stay blind, no one is forcing you to know the truth.  

Enjoy Bitcoin Core, just don't call the whole cryptocurrency scene a scam when it collapses  

Bitcoin Core (what you call Bitcoin) crypto market dominance is currently at ~55%, I think it's fair to say it's an altcoin as well, and not a very good one...

BTW, it's funny how people like you never have any proofs or facts to say against Roger Ver except generic "he is a traitor".
You know why it's funny ? because it's obvious you didn't do any research and just repeating what other Bitcoin Core evangelists said.

I'm all into Monero but it's obvious to me from reading all the facts and hearing both sides that Bitcoin Cash is more in line with Satoshi vision than Bitcoin Core.
The whole drama aside, code speaks for itself and Bitcoin Cash is just better Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System, remember that ? "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System".
It was not meant to be: "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-CeX-to-Peer Electronic Real-Estate System" or more likely today: CeX-to-CeX.

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
 

[nutildah]

Oh yes, Bitcoin is doing GREAT! (but only if you are blinded by the "number goes up"):

Price is a pretty good indicator that something is popular, wouldn't you say? Its tough to use a crypto as a currency if its price does nothing but go down, especially when compared to Bitcoin.

I understand you are pro Monero, that's great. But shitting on Bitcoin to make... whatever point it is you trying to make seems like a dumb strategy.

[mindrust]

Bcash is an old story book you don’t want to read anymore because you already know every word in it. The writer is Roger V and he has been saying the same old crap for the last 7 years or smth. He was cool when he was pro-btc but not anymore. He and his Chinese friend Jihan tried to kill btc’s decentralization and failed. That’s all there is to know about him.

[kryptqnick]

I honestly don't understand why it has to be a heated debate. The crypto market is a free market. Anyone can make their coins and see if they succeed. Similarly, anyone can choose which cryptos to use, whether it's Bitcoin, Monero, or Bitcoin Cash.
Bitcoin went through some changes when SegWit was introduced. Not everyone agreed with those changes but enough people did to say that this is Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash didn't win people over, and it's not the original Bitcoin either. It's a clone with a modification that's different from the SegWit one that Bitcoin underwent. Whoever prefers it is free to do so, nothing to argue about.