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August 25, 2024, 12:45:23 PM
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Actually those who gamble are professional gamblers I think they may have experience in gambling but I have no idea if they can make accurate analysis and predictions. Because all the games mentioned here are completely dependent on your own luck and cannot be predicted correctly. But those who are new gamblers should be aware that in the beginning they have to participate in gambling with a very small amount of money and gradually they will become experienced. No one will advise anyone new or old to gamble here. However, it is better to rely on yourself and use your own experience to gamble.

maybe what beginners need to learn is related to gambler strategies in managing finances or self-control before gambling. if it is related to analysis to determine bets, I think everyone can do it with a little experience and learning.
what exactly can be shared by someone who is an expert in gambling games besides their experience? especially in games of luck, it will only share how we manage bets wisely. while in sports betting it may depend on our understanding ability. maybe what can also be learned is related to how to choose odds that are more profitable and minimize risk.
I think that the first thing a new gambler should know is that gambling is for fun and he should not be gambling because he wants to gamble for profit. That will make him not see winning as a do or die thing and will not be looking for predictions here and there or chasing his losses.

Luck is a game of chance and if a new gambler gambles for fun, he will definitely be lucky someday and win instead of him looking for various strategies how he can win his bet when winning is not by our own power or strategy but by luck. If you are a novice to gamble, use demo to study the game so that you have an idea of what you are betting on.

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August 25, 2024, 12:48:52 PM
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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh
There are no efficient analysis when it comes to gambling... No matter how professionally oriented a person is, they'd always tend to make faulty analysis in most cases.. What's the point of depending on another person's experience in the expense of my money?

Well, if you still insist, there are several telegram channels that make predictions all the time.. it ain't free either - it's also impossible to know which of them has the most accuracies.
Literally, any strategy you could ever think of is already in existence... YouTube is your friend!

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August 26, 2024, 12:51:08 AM
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This depends a lot on the type of game you want to play, because there are games that are good for teaching like poker, for me poker is one of the games that can best be adapted to teaching, so given these things it is the only game that I see that is possible and good for teaching, because sports betting already depends on the player's knowledge and roulette, slots, well, it has to do with pure luck, and strategies are at the player's discretion and risk, which work but occasionally.

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August 26, 2024, 01:29:41 AM
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This depends a lot on the type of game you want to play, because there are games that are good for teaching like poker, for me poker is one of the games that can best be adapted to teaching, so given these things it is the only game that I see that is possible and good for teaching, because sports betting already depends on the player's knowledge and roulette, slots, well, it has to do with pure luck, and strategies are at the player's discretion and risk, which work but occasionally.
even though if you think about it there is absolutely no accurate or efficient analysis or prediction to learn and do to win but on the other hand there is a possibility depending on the game as well as what you said because there are games that require good analysis to be able to win but the analysis that is learned cannot fully guarantee victory also because there is indeed no analysis that is right and completely accurate because the existing analysis only increases the chances of winning but does not guarantee that you can win for sure.
with one of the games you mentioned it is indeed very necessary to learn to be able to understand it because to be able to play this one game you must have a fairly good understanding if you only rely on random capital then everything will only end unpleasantly. I myself have played poker online to be honest this game is interesting but because of the lack of understanding that I have made me lose again and again.

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August 26, 2024, 08:58:20 AM
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This depends a lot on the type of game you want to play, because there are games that are good for teaching like poker, for me poker is one of the games that can best be adapted to teaching, so given these things it is the only game that I see that is possible and good for teaching, because sports betting already depends on the player's knowledge and roulette, slots, well, it has to do with pure luck, and strategies are at the player's discretion and risk, which work but occasionally.

Poker most probably is the only popular game where it is possible to learn something from someone experienced. And even then, I think will turn into telling stories like once I had 7J offsuit, the opponent had AA and A on the flop, and I wont a tournament after. Besides this, this topic seems to me as a sort of "teach me how to become rich with gambling in 1-10 lessons". Again people looking for easy or short path to success.

 
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August 26, 2024, 09:07:13 AM
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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh
If any one can actually take gambling this serious, I would like to know why they can't channel that energy into learning something more professional and career like, for example, trading 💹, either forex or crypto.

I have never really been an advocate of serious gambling, and this is because I've always believed that gambling; whether playing Slot of casino games, or sports betting; should be done majorly for fun, and even though it's possible to make life changing amount of money from gambling, one should not try to force him or herself to achieve this, it should be allowed to happen naturally because, in the end, out comes of games still largely depends on how lucky the player is, even with all the analytical skills and so on.

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Sportsbetting is not for people not generally well-versed in sports. Even if you get a list of very good analysers and good sports predictors, you can't rely on others all the time. If you have knowledge about sports and have always been into sports, you should be able to do the analysis yourself and make your predictions after that, and if you can't do that, I'm sorry to say that sports betting is not for you, and it's better if you focus on something else.

What I said is for every person out there who is struggling to make correct predictions in sports betting and looking to find services and people who can help them with it. If it's not working out, it's not your thing, and you should try your luck in something else and don't waste your money like this.

Prediction sites are not accurate, but that is what you can tell the people that have just started to gamble after you have told them how risky gambling is. Also teaching them how to analyze the matches themselves.
Yeah, no one is accurate because only God knows the future, right? When predicting accurately is not possible all the times, we cannot expect anyone to be developing any analytical skills over the time. Only when there would be a science (or logic), then we could learn over the time and only randomness (or luck factor) decides everything, then no skill development is possible at any point of time.

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August 28, 2024, 06:09:32 AM
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I am a professional bettor. I've won millions. I would be open to educating people but the problem is 99% of bettors expect high returns immediately. They want to win a million dollars overnight. People are not patient so I would not waste my time teaching them.

People are also extremely jealous, that's why I had to stop posting my bets. That and I was limited/blacklisted from every bookie in the world. 99% of bettors will never experience this level of success because they have unrealistic expectations and don't want to put in the time to properly research.
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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh

As a beginner you shouldn't really focus too much on predictions from experts but instead you should try to improve your ideas about gambling by keeping yourself constantly updated and informed. For your analytical skills to improve you must understand football or any sports activity you want to focus on, you must also familiarize yourself with the betting systems which includes odds and the terms involved.  Understanding all of these would make you a better gamblier, there are lots of experts you can learn from online but while you are learning make sure you are developing your strategies

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September 29, 2024, 10:34:30 PM
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This is hard, even there's a list of sports bettors with high winning rate, I don't believe it because we don't know how the article can trust the record. Most of articles usually list sports bettors that win huge amount of money instead of tracking which sports bettors that have high winning rate.

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If someone who expert in something sell webinar or class, be careful he's not that expert because he's still looking to make money from other source...

I agree with what you are saying because the match or particular in a sports event can also be said to be an unpredictable game, and it does not mean that there is a high number of wins and a strong basis to say that they always win.

because no matter how good or the best a team is, it still experiences defeat in a game or match. So the bet of those gamblers still depends on the sure choice.

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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh

As a beginner you shouldn't really focus too much on predictions from experts but instead you should try to improve your ideas about gambling by keeping yourself constantly updated and informed. For your analytical skills to improve you must understand football or any sports activity you want to focus on, you must also familiarize yourself with the betting systems which includes odds and the terms involved.  Understanding all of these would make you a better gamblier, there are lots of experts you can learn from online but while you are learning make sure you are developing your strategies
Gambling experts do exist and while they gamble and able to maximize their profits, then there’s also high chances that even regular gamblers can still make decent profits in gambling as long the courage to constantly learning and make informed decisions are there, otherwise if you bet randomly, you will also end up with random wins, or maybe in a total loss.

Learning and understanding the nature of your bet is the key. If you don’t have knowledge and personal background with what you are betting, better not to bet at all to avoid inevitable losses.

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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh
There are no efficient analysis when it comes to gambling... No matter how professionally oriented a person is, they'd always tend to make faulty analysis in most cases.. What's the point of depending on another person's experience in the expense of my money?

Well, if you still insist, there are several telegram channels that make predictions all the time.. it ain't free either - it's also impossible to know which of them has the most accuracies.
Literally, any strategy you could ever think of is already in existence... YouTube is your friend!
I would be way more interested about those analyze processes, then the outcome they are concluding from them. Even though there wouldn't be any efficient way to do that, i would like to know what methods people are using to make predictions.

I am almost certain that it's something made up and simple, when they try to sell those predictions from different analysists.

I have heard all the basics, like "study the past", but in which way would someone analyze that past data? What are the key elements and how much they weight on calculations. How much things like knee of one player in defense is still healing, someone got back from rehab, past matches against same team, different coach, or if a goal keeper got divorced... How much each would weigh in those calculations? And in what way weather affects? Because one would think it's going to affect both teams.

Statistics are easier to measure, but if they alone would give a good edge, everyone would use just them and odds would be not worth the gambling.

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I would be way more interested about those analyze processes, then the outcome they are concluding from them. Even though there wouldn't be any efficient way to do that, i would like to know what methods people are using to make predictions.

I am almost certain that it's something made up and simple, when they try to sell those predictions from different analysists.

I have heard all the basics, like "study the past", but in which way would someone analyze that past data? What are the key elements and how much they weight on calculations. How much things like knee of one player in defense is still healing, someone got back from rehab, past matches against same team, different coach, or if a goal keeper got divorced... How much each would weigh in those calculations? And in what way weather affects? Because one would think it's going to affect both teams.

Statistics are easier to measure, but if they alone would give a good edge, everyone would use just them and odds would be not worth the gambling.
The thing is that it is impossible to take all these indicators into account, but it is only possible to get close to some result. I think a large array of databases allows us to take many things into account, but I doubt that one player will be able to collect or create such databases for analysis. Bookmakers certainly have all this and we as players cannot compete with them in data analysis, because this is how they earn their huge money. The only thing we can do is choose the best odds and enjoy the excitement that we will experience when playing football or another sport.

 
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Actually those who gamble are professional gamblers I think they may have experience in gambling but I have no idea if they can make accurate analysis and predictions. Because all the games mentioned here are completely dependent on your own luck and cannot be predicted correctly. But those who are new gamblers should be aware that in the beginning they have to participate in gambling with a very small amount of money and gradually they will become experienced. No one will advise anyone new or old to gamble here. However, it is better to rely on yourself and use your own experience to gamble.

maybe what beginners need to learn is related to gambler strategies in managing finances or self-control before gambling. if it is related to analysis to determine bets, I think everyone can do it with a little experience and learning.
what exactly can be shared by someone who is an expert in gambling games besides their experience? especially in games of luck, it will only share how we manage bets wisely. while in sports betting it may depend on our understanding ability. maybe what can also be learned is related to how to choose odds that are more profitable and minimize risk.
I think that the first thing a new gambler should know is that gambling is for fun and he should not be gambling because he wants to gamble for profit. That will make him not see winning as a do or die thing and will not be looking for predictions here and there or chasing his losses.

Luck is a game of chance and if a new gambler gambles for fun, he will definitely be lucky someday and win instead of him looking for various strategies how he can win his bet when winning is not by our own power or strategy but by luck. If you are a novice to gamble, use demo to study the game so that you have an idea of what you are betting on.
There is this common proverbs in my language which translates to "we should be fighting even while we wait for the police to arrive", this simply means that, it's completely not out of place for a gambler(whether new or an old gambler) to device new strategies that could help him or her win his or her bets, as long as he or she knows exactly what he or she is doing?

As much as gambling should be more towards having fun rather than making money, it's not out of place, or a crime to want to make money off it, after all, if casinos never wanted the possibility of making money through gambling, then they shouldnt have made that possible.

Besides, it's foolish to continue to give your hard earned money to casinos, and be very comfortable about it..
It's ok to once in a while, expect some money back from them, the fun in gambling is the winning, not losing, as I believe no body enjoys losing money.

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Honestly I don't know if there is someone who is said or recognized by many people as a professional gambler in sports betting, I have never looked for that information but it might be right to say that it is a prediction site channel, it is indeed quite reliable but of course you also have to know that the prediction site does not guarantee victory.
So my advice is that it is better to do an analysis first about both parties or both teams that will compete by looking at statistical data, and if you see one team is superior and it turns out that the direction of the prediction site gives the same signal then that's where you can place a bet.

But of course it must also be done with risk management, such as only betting a small amount, and also not adding too many matches at the same time.

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I think that the first thing a new gambler should know is that gambling is for fun and he should not be gambling because he wants to gamble for profit. That will make him not see winning as a do or die thing and will not be looking for predictions here and there or chasing his losses.

Luck is a game of chance and if a new gambler gambles for fun, he will definitely be lucky someday and win instead of him looking for various strategies how he can win his bet when winning is not by our own power or strategy but by luck. If you are a novice to gamble, use demo to study the game so that you have an idea of what you are betting on.

Are you sure a beginner is interested in gambling just for the fun of throwing away their money? More experienced gamblers may be able to provide information about the fun of gambling. But still, the attraction for beginner gamblers is not the fun, but the profit that can be obtained from betting their money. There are even some beginners who start gambling because they are facing critical difficulties. This condition is not for fun. Gambling for fun, I think it's just a word. In practice, ahhhh if you are a gambler, you must understand.

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September 30, 2024, 03:37:30 PM
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Honestly I don't know if there is someone who is said or recognized by many people as a professional gambler in sports betting, I have never looked for that information but it might be right to say that it is a prediction site channel, it is indeed quite reliable but of course you also have to know that the prediction site does not guarantee victory.
So my advice is that it is better to do an analysis first about both parties or both teams that will compete by looking at statistical data, and if you see one team is superior and it turns out that the direction of the prediction site gives the same signal then that's where you can place a bet.

But of course it must also be done with risk management, such as only betting a small amount, and also not adding too many matches at the same time.

Do remember that even professional gamblers can still suffer losses because there are still blind spots for them such as unknown athlete's injuries, coaching strategies, environmental factors such as humidity and temperature, if they are playing away from home or not, and others. So what you can do is gauge whatever prediction they have, and assess it on your own if the possibility is indeed high or not. Because with your own acquired information, you will also have speculations on the game. Follow your instincts so you won't blame anyone afterwards. After all, you can't blame as it is your decision and your money at stake.

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September 30, 2024, 04:39:59 PM
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Well, I was wondering if there is a list of pro gamblers with efficient analytical skills and realistic records in sports betting (NBA, Soccer, UFC...etc). This can be very useful, especially for beginners who want to play and at the same time maintain their responsible gambling strategies. You know, I'm not saying that we need to encourage people to gamble, but at least assist those who have already started and need help or inspiration.
Who inspires you in this field, and where can we find free resources to learn from them Huh

As a beginner you shouldn't really focus too much on predictions from experts but instead you should try to improve your ideas about gambling by keeping yourself constantly updated and informed. For your analytical skills to improve you must understand football or any sports activity you want to focus on, you must also familiarize yourself with the betting systems which includes odds and the terms involved.  Understanding all of these would make you a better gamblier, there are lots of experts you can learn from online but while you are learning make sure you are developing your strategies
Should form a mindset of not relying on others from the beginning, just need to absorb the most basic things as well as distill from the parts that can be considered veterans, combined with the qualities of a person with gambling ability, this new player has adapted appropriately with time. However, this proper adaptation is not applied to new people when their tour guide is not good enough, besides the lack of sharing and fear of communicating with others, insufficient thinking resources affect their learning, the result is gullibility and being attracted to the talent of the expert when in fact there is no basis

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I think that the first thing a new gambler should know is that gambling is for fun and he should not be gambling because he wants to gamble for profit. That will make him not see winning as a do or die thing and will not be looking for predictions here and there or chasing his losses.

Luck is a game of chance and if a new gambler gambles for fun, he will definitely be lucky someday and win instead of him looking for various strategies how he can win his bet when winning is not by our own power or strategy but by luck. If you are a novice to gamble, use demo to study the game so that you have an idea of what you are betting on.

Are you sure a beginner is interested in gambling just for the fun of throwing away their money? More experienced gamblers may be able to provide information about the fun of gambling. But still, the attraction for beginner gamblers is not the fun, but the profit that can be obtained from betting their money. There are even some beginners who start gambling because they are facing critical difficulties. This condition is not for fun. Gambling for fun, I think it's just a word. In practice, ahhhh if you are a gambler, you must understand.
At first I think all gamblers come to expect to win, but over time they realize that this is something wrong so they change it into a place to find pleasure and who knows unexpected luck comes to them.
I agree with you that most beginners come to win not to have fun, at least that's what I see in my environment. I even experienced it myself, yes at that time my friend asked how to win in gambling. I answered there was no way because it depended on luck, but then he answered that he watched a streamer who managed to win big with a strategy (then he explained the strategy used by the streamer). I answered that it was just a coincidence and luck was on his side.

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